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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 02 2013 23:48 GMT
#1761
Air Toss is beyond awkward to fight against as Zerg. No obvious answers once they get a good death ball going. I'm guessing the solution is to do a timing or all in if you see them commit to that.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
June 02 2013 23:48 GMT
#1762
On June 03 2013 08:47 Godwrath wrote:
We need symbol to re-define ZvP.

I seriously have no idea what to make of HOTS ZvP. Each region plays different styles, but most of the games tend to end in landslide victories one way or the other.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
June 02 2013 23:49 GMT
#1763
On June 03 2013 08:46 AlternativeEgo wrote:
And we have ourselves a series!

In the same way Soulkey vs Innovation was a series, terrible games with different winners.
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
June 02 2013 23:49 GMT
#1764
at this point revival is probably going to stop trying with mutas.... he should have learned how to use some SH instead.
badog
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
June 02 2013 23:49 GMT
#1765
On June 03 2013 08:47 Godwrath wrote:
We need symbol to re-define ZvP.

You want ZvP to become: can you hold this all-in? Yes: Win No: Lose ?
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 02 2013 23:49 GMT
#1766
Ok, so I know that was far from a standard game, but in hots I've felt corruptor/muta is really strong. In a more standard game, does stargate opening shit on muta play?
FetTerBender
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany1393 Posts
June 02 2013 23:50 GMT
#1767
On June 03 2013 08:48 Serpico wrote:
Air Toss is beyond awkward to fight against as Zerg. No obvious answers once they get a good death ball going. I'm guessing the solution is to do a timing or all in if you see them commit to that.


Infestors and chain fungals. Yummy little voidray ball ;-)
There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 23:52:02
June 02 2013 23:50 GMT
#1768
On June 03 2013 08:48 Serpico wrote:
Air Toss is beyond awkward to fight against as Zerg. No obvious answers once they get a good death ball going. I'm guessing the solution is to do a timing or all in if you see them commit to that.


Life vs Creator on Whirlwind: Hydra timing into muta switch into hydra timing. Super awkward to defend for the P.

edit: @ zarathra: it shits on straight up muta builds that are super obvious (as in, builds that skip the hydra den for the most part). The more random muta switches like hydra>muta or even muta remaxes are super hard to scout and deal with no matter what your opening is. In general though yeah, stragate openers give you extra safety vs muta.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 02 2013 23:50 GMT
#1769
On June 03 2013 08:49 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 08:46 AlternativeEgo wrote:
And we have ourselves a series!

In the same way Soulkey vs Innovation was a series, terrible games with different winners.


You're such a hater
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10126 Posts
June 02 2013 23:50 GMT
#1770
i would like ro see a -1 range when the voyds use his ability
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
rpgalon
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 23:51:34
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1771
On June 03 2013 08:49 Zarahtra wrote:
Ok, so I know that was far from a standard game, but in hots I've felt corruptor/muta is really strong. In a more standard game, does stargate opening shit on muta play?

muta play is so strong in PvZ that some protoss goes stargate opening just to make zerg avoid going mutas.
badog
Jnai
Profile Joined September 2010
United States442 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1772
Has anyone ever successfully taken one of those gold bases in anything close to resembling a close game? I mean, they are so weird.
Falcon-sw
Profile Joined September 2010
United States324 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1773
On June 03 2013 08:50 FetTerBender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 08:48 Serpico wrote:
Air Toss is beyond awkward to fight against as Zerg. No obvious answers once they get a good death ball going. I'm guessing the solution is to do a timing or all in if you see them commit to that.


Infestors and chain fungals. Yummy little voidray ball ;-)


How many fungals are we talking? Didn't the damage get nerfed pretty bad?
https://www.youtube.com/FalconPaladin https://twitch.tv/falconpaladin
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1774
On June 03 2013 08:50 FetTerBender wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 08:48 Serpico wrote:
Air Toss is beyond awkward to fight against as Zerg. No obvious answers once they get a good death ball going. I'm guessing the solution is to do a timing or all in if you see them commit to that.


Infestors and chain fungals. Yummy little voidray ball ;-)

Infestors are hardly cost-efficient, especially with a colossus or two in the mix.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1775
I'm disappointed by lack of 6 pool
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1776
On June 03 2013 08:47 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
I imagine as soon as this ends they'll announce the groups for Grand Finals, right?


this is blizz we're talking about here

soon
dreaming of a sunny day
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1777
revival should stop his fail roach/gling push and going on a straight macro game with hero
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1778
HerO actually looks like he's protoss when he makes that face
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1779
On June 03 2013 08:47 Godwrath wrote:
We need symbol to re-define ZvP.

Did someone say, nydus worm?
Glorious SEA doto
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
June 02 2013 23:51 GMT
#1780
On June 03 2013 08:47 JazzJackrabbit wrote:
I imagine as soon as this ends they'll announce the groups for Grand Finals, right?

someone has the answer to that?
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