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Bizeheryer
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany307 Posts
May 26 2013 14:28 GMT
#1481
On May 26 2013 23:23 XupinatoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:20 Bizeheryer wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Bayern Munich > Barcelona
Borrusia Dortmund > Real Madrid

And now, we have:

TLO > LucifroN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I lol'ed.

Yeah, but at least spanish national team > german one.

(don't talk about economy thought xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD)


You got a point. It's is really sad to see, how Jogi Löw can destroy a complete generation on his own and no fuck is given.
EthanML
Profile Joined May 2011
Northern Ireland55 Posts
May 26 2013 14:29 GMT
#1482
What's up with the number of people who seem to have missed the last 6 months or so when TLO has become clearly one of the best players in Europe? Are people ignorant or just super butthurt about Lucifron losing for some reason?

TLO is legit, deal with it.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
May 26 2013 14:29 GMT
#1483
On May 26 2013 23:25 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:21 nunez wrote:
damn, wanted luci to go through. think he would have had a bigger shot at kicking some korean ass.


You are not the only one who thinks this. Koreans study you to death, and after the interview they will play the safest they can vs him. And then proceed to destroy him after 20+ min game.

But WCS Europe doesn't send 'whoever has the bigger shot' but the ones who win the qualifiers, as it has to be.

ya, ofc tlo deserves his spot as he won the quals fair and square. and ofc i will be rooting for him and hoping he puts me to shame.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12391 Posts
May 26 2013 14:29 GMT
#1484
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
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On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
May 26 2013 14:29 GMT
#1485
--- Nuked ---
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
May 26 2013 14:29 GMT
#1486
Is the grand finals going to be a weekend tournament or will there be more preparation time between series?

Trying to figure out if the non-KR players stand any chance, more preparation time would definitely favor the Korean players.
GreyishTommy
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland147 Posts
May 26 2013 14:29 GMT
#1487
On May 26 2013 23:24 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:23 Flonomenalz wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:21 Yonnua wrote:
Admits he couldn't win a macro game so he cheeses and then manner hatches when he wins. What a manner guy!

Yeah, because manner hatches/pylons/mules are the epitome of disrespect.

Well they are. The only time I'd argue they aren't is by a player also uses them when he looses.

I completly agree with that, the only one I know in that case is MKP
To me, the manner hatch thing is completly stupid, especially against a player like Lucifron who seems to be the most respectful player out there.
MKP/Bomber/ForGG/Creator/Jjakji/SuperNova/San/Byul/Life/DRG/HerO/Seed
Taru
Profile Joined October 2010
France88 Posts
May 26 2013 14:29 GMT
#1488
On May 26 2013 23:27 Derez wrote:
Bring back random pop music instead of the HotS soundtrack please.


This. I whish they do like the gsl, this soundtrack is quite boring because we've heard it so many times...
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 14:30:07
May 26 2013 14:29 GMT
#1489
On May 26 2013 23:29 Bagi wrote:
Is the grand finals going to be a weekend tournament or will there be more preparation time between series?

Trying to figure out if the non-KR players stand any chance, more preparation time would definitely favor the Korean players.


2 days long

and the non-KR players are fucked equally either way, imo
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
May 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#1490
On May 26 2013 23:23 XupinatoR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:20 Bizeheryer wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Bayern Munich > Barcelona
Borrusia Dortmund > Real Madrid

And now, we have:

TLO > LucifroN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I lol'ed.

Yeah, but at least spanish national team > german one.

(don't talk about economy thought xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD)


Well due to the "ingenious" politics of eurocrats, cream of spanish academics work in germany currently ...
21 is half the truth
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#1491
On May 26 2013 23:29 EthanML wrote:
What's up with the number of people who seem to have missed the last 6 months or so when TLO has become clearly one of the best players in Europe? Are people ignorant or just super butthurt about Lucifron losing for some reason?

TLO is legit, deal with it.

I for one am not ignorant but just super butthurt.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#1492
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
FirstGear
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia185 Posts
May 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#1493
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.


Tlo's play was pretty gimicky tbh. Roach all in, 6 pool, double gas cancel gasless 3 base, nydus
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 14:31:00
May 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#1494
On May 26 2013 23:29 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:29 Bagi wrote:
Is the grand finals going to be a weekend tournament or will there be more preparation time between series?

Trying to figure out if the non-KR players stand any chance, more preparation time would definitely favor the Korean players.


2 days long

and the non-KR players are fucked equally either way, imo

Pretty much, but at least with a weekend tournament they might win a round or two.
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
May 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#1495
On May 26 2013 23:25 Absentia wrote:
ToD's really made a fan out of me during this WCS. It's really given him a chance to show his personality and intelligence. The only thing I really knew prior to WCS was that he was a well known Warcraft 3 player who allegedly complained about player conditions a lot.


Almost spilled my drink. Classic:
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
May 26 2013 14:30 GMT
#1496
Awesome, main event time!
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 26 2013 14:31 GMT
#1497
On May 26 2013 23:28 Bizeheryer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:23 XupinatoR wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:20 Bizeheryer wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:17 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Bayern Munich > Barcelona
Borrusia Dortmund > Real Madrid

And now, we have:

TLO > LucifroN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I lol'ed.

Yeah, but at least spanish national team > german one.

(don't talk about economy thought xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD)


You got a point. It's is really sad to see, how Jogi Löw can destroy a complete generation on his own and no fuck is given.

Dat "tactic adoptation" in the last game vs Italy...*shudder*
Get off my lawn, young punks
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
May 26 2013 14:31 GMT
#1498
On May 26 2013 23:29 Bagi wrote:
Is the grand finals going to be a weekend tournament or will there be more preparation time between series?

Trying to figure out if the non-KR players stand any chance, more preparation time would definitely favor the Korean players.



I feel like this format favors stephano more then the other 3 players
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
May 26 2013 14:31 GMT
#1499
On May 26 2013 23:26 Nachtwind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:25 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:21 nunez wrote:
damn, wanted luci to go through. think he would have had a bigger shot at kicking some korean ass.


You are not the only one who thinks this. Koreans study you to death, and after the interview they will play the safest they can vs him. And then proceed to destroy him after 20+ min game.

But WCS Europe doesn't send 'whoever has the bigger shot' but the ones who win the qualifiers, as it has to be.


Luci has admited tlo is one of the last readable players. Maybe we´ll see some surprises.


Least readable means unpredictable. But that's not big deal for Koreans, they will play as safe as they can, even if that means that they go into the late game in a disadvantage. And the proceed to sweep with their superior mechanics and game sense.

At the top Korean level, if you are trully unpredictable is really good, as a small advantage, for players with late game, can mean the difference between losing and winning. And I feel that vs TLO, they can afford trading safety against the possibility of TLO playing greedy, because he's no Korean mechanics-wise.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 26 2013 14:31 GMT
#1500
On May 26 2013 23:30 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 23:29 ETisME wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:28 arkedos wrote:
On May 26 2013 23:27 ETisME wrote:
omg lucifron lost to TLO?? guess it's all the help from the all in style



ehhm the star station game was pretty much straight up macro.

one game in a best of 5? :S


Does it matter how he won?


People have this incredible stupid mentality that unless you win in a 30 minute macro game then it doesn't count and you are "just some cheeser"
Zerg for Life
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