EPTOn May 27 2013 05:43 Bagi wrote:
Who needs NA casters when you got Kaelaris, Tod and Apollo?
Who needs NA casters when you got Kaelaris, Tod and Apollo?
Who needs casters?
Needs more MVP
[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 1 2013 - Page 341
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
Who needs casters? Needs more MVP | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:40 Gr33d wrote: And you talked to the 120,000 people and confirmed they love watching MVP pretty quickly too. The all korean matches have shit amount of viewers, because the large majority doesnt care for them. They want to relate to players and thats easier with an american or european (because those are the biggest markets with the highest amount of viewers) than an korean. This is not true, KR vs KR can get tons of foreign viewers (Flash vs Life and MLG is the running example). People do enjoy watching Koreans, but this was a REGIONAL tournament. Korean players knocked Europeans out of the their own regional tournament, it's a complete joke. I'd have nothing to say if this was simply Dreamhack or IEM or something, but it wasn't. It was the "European championship", and it was a complete farce as far as determining the European power rankings and developing the foreign scene. And WCS AM is a joke that shouldn't even be discussed. | ||
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levelping
Singapore759 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:40 Crownlol wrote: How is that even remotely analogous? MLG wasn't a regional tourney- and that tournament was Flash vs. Life, the best BW pro vs the best SC2 pro, an epic clash of the titans. Sick games too. I'm not hating on MVP, but a regional tournament needs to be region locked. Well you know what's going to happen with region locks right... every region outside of korea will immediately become irrelevant, because you may get 5 europeans representing europe but they are going to get butchered in the world finals. Allowing people to play wherever makes the thing competitive. | ||
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Wintex
Norway16848 Posts
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ayayouyouyaille
France112 Posts
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:44 Wintex wrote: Brb burn run. lol you stay true to your word | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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eGoRama
Bulgaria1542 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:43 Dodgin wrote: Exactly, imagine next season if Naniwa or someone fights Mvp in the finals and WINS, it will be the most hype thing ever. They should use some DNA tests to confirm that the participants are really from Europe origin, or it wont be good enough WCS :D | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
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freerolll
Belgium1056 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:41 Dodgin wrote: You can complain all you want about Mvp playing in Europe but let's be serious, his presence in the tournament brings it to a much higher level of prestige. He's only one man, Europe can stop him next season. It's not even like Mvp is the best player in the world anymore. Having him there build huge hype and storyline for any foreigner that will face him in next season! | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:40 Gr33d wrote: And you talked to the 120,000 people and confirmed they love watching MVP pretty quickly too. The all korean matches have shit amount of viewers, because the large majority doesnt care for them. They want to relate to players and thats easier with an american or european (because those are the biggest markets with the highest amount of viewers) than an korean. I get that in the case of WCS AM, because It's a lot of Koreans without the history of Mvp. But this is Mvp, he's an icon of this game and any tournament featuring him will be better off for it. We know his story and can relate to him, It's not like some random person who has never won a tournament before took the crown. EU will fight back. | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:44 Crownlol wrote: This is not true, KR vs KR can get tons of foreign viewers (Flash vs Life and MLG is the running example). People do enjoy watching Koreans, but this was a REGIONAL tournament. Korean players knocked Europeans out of the their own regional tournament, it's a complete joke. I'd have nothing to say if this was simply Dreamhack or IEM or something, but it wasn't. It was the "European championship", and it was a complete farce as far as determining the European power rankings and developing the foreign scene. And WCS AM is a joke that shouldn't even be discussed. It is a farce best way to describe it. However I do think MVP like Dodgin said is going to life the European skill level. | ||
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:45 DJHelium wrote: http://strawpoll.me/67979/r What is this I don't even | ||
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:44 Crownlol wrote: This is not true, KR vs KR can get tons of foreign viewers (Flash vs Life and MLG is the running example). People do enjoy watching Koreans, but this was a REGIONAL tournament. Korean players knocked Europeans out of the their own regional tournament, it's a complete joke. I'd have nothing to say if this was simply Dreamhack or IEM or something, but it wasn't. It was the "European championship", and it was a complete farce as far as determining the European power rankings and developing the foreign scene. And WCS AM is a joke that shouldn't even be discussed. Maybe don't give equal standing and payouts to regions which aren't equal if you don't want people crossing over. The Stanley cup final isn't between the best NHL team and the team in Mexico. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:43 Bagi wrote: Who needs NA casters when you got Kaelaris, Tod and Apollo? I don't need them here. Hopefully they work out a plan to keep ToD as a caster even though he's in Premier, I like him a lot and I think he's gotten quite a bit of praise during Season 1. I'd love it if they managed to get HasuObs as a replacement for when ToD is unavailable. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:44 levelping wrote: Well you know what's going to happen with region locks right... every region outside of korea will immediately become irrelevant, because you may get 5 europeans representing europe but they are going to get butchered in the world finals. Allowing people to play wherever makes the thing competitive. Who cares how they do at the finals? I was watching WCS EU to watch Europeans play starcraft. The only reason I watched the finals was to watch a European player defend his region, and it didn't happen. I love MVP, but he shouldn't have been in this tournament. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:43 Bagi wrote: Who needs NA casters when you got Kaelaris, Tod and Apollo? Mixing in TB would probably be good, he brings lots of viewers  | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On May 27 2013 05:40 Gr33d wrote: And you talked to the 120,000 people and confirmed they love watching MVP pretty quickly too. The all korean matches have shit amount of viewers, because the large majority doesnt care for them. They want to relate to players and thats easier with an american or european (because those are the biggest markets with the highest amount of viewers) than an korean. The Korean matches are at a terrible time for Americans and probably not a very good time for EU though I assume its slightly better. Also its not really fair to make a claim and then say since you cant prove or disprove it my claim is true. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Strangely some people don't like that and are having to find stuff to bitch about. That Final was so fucking epic man, and the MVP vs Dimaga game ..holy shit. Just let yourself be happy | ||
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