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Thanks a lot for another great day of WCS EU!
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finally WCS EU stepped up in production. it was a fucking good day
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Again ESL what you have done with WCS EU has been a pleasure to watch!
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On May 26 2013 02:50 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I'm not too confident in ForGG's TvZ and I really like Mvp in an offline bo5+ so I think there's a pretty good chance of EU getting that Mvp vs Stephano finals. Would be fucking epic for viewer count Its going to happen I'm like 95% sure about it!
hahaa, we'll see how stephano spends his time tonight.
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3/4 on liquibets, had faith in happy but he put up a good fight.
Shouldn't the bets be 3 points each since they're best of fives?
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On May 26 2013 02:49 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:43 Dodgin wrote:On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though. If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me. Well MVP is the greatest sc2 player ever. So if TLO wanted to win WCS EU he had to beat him! I don't think TLO was arrogant I just think he was very confident and in a good mental state. I just hope this "spanking" wont shake him to much
That's certainly an overstatement. But MVP was definitely the best WOL player ever if "the best" was measured by achievements.
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On May 26 2013 02:48 partydude89 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:45 Salteador Neo wrote:On May 26 2013 02:38 Zheryn wrote:On May 26 2013 02:34 Salteador Neo wrote:On May 26 2013 02:31 Zheryn wrote:On May 26 2013 02:29 Bagi wrote:On May 26 2013 02:27 mongoose22 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:19 FeyFey wrote:
Hope Locust are at range 2 soon again xD. Well hoped that for Roaches as well hehe .
So is Stephano no Legend anymore ? or is he beyond Legendary, Seraph class now ? The locust range isn't the issue IMO, it's their lifetime and speed. For every second the locust lives, it can advance 2.625 on creep. 25 seconds of lifetime means a locust can travel 65.625 on creep before dying. So you can burrow the swarm host way, way back and still have the locusts hit a target. Doing something like reducing or removing the Enduring Locusts upgrade would be a way more effective nerf; 10 seconds of life for the locust is equivalent to 26.25 of range lost for the swarm host on creep, as well as give the swarm host assault a cooldown hole. Why would you ever build a single swarm host if this nerf took place? People are just crying about Swarm Hosts cause most protoss players facing it on streamed matches play like shit. So this is the new version of the old "Terran players are just better" xD Stfu guys he got it solved!! SH are not the problem, all protoss just play like shit!! Well, if you don't agree that building a full ground army vs swarm hosts and not commiting fully to an attack to just try to run the zerg over is playing like shit, then you are wrong. It's like me making only roaches against pure immortals and complaining about immortals. Of course I don't agree lol. No tier 2 unit should force a race to go mass air or lose. That was a pretty easy one. Also, mass roaches can win against immortals tbh. Surround and outnumber them because larva > robotics production. LOL. if your massing this "tier 2 unit" then your literally investing so much money into it, you might as well be going ultras. of COURSE it should trigger a massive reaction from your opponent. it would be stupid if it didn't.
I read it and don't see a new point. Are you agreeing? All races invest a lot of money in a ground army. That is how this saga of videogames works and most RTS as well.
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On May 26 2013 02:31 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The korean zergs also are adopting this ZvP late game style? If yes, Blizzard have to do something to end it. I can't imagine nothing more boring and cheap.
Just because BBK wasn't able to defend doesn't mean nobody can. A few Korean adopted this style, but Protoss Kr have adapted (it's more based around storms than colossus)
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On May 26 2013 02:40 Zyzz12 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
All hail the king! wow sucks that I couldn't watch today. The ForGG vs Lucifron reverse sounds like it would have been crazy to watch live Watch the vods. :D http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_europe/videos
Wow, VODs are free? That's great.
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Play 2 games. Cheese both and win. BM the opponents.
Now i am over that lucifron is out of WCS :p
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On May 26 2013 02:53 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:49 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:43 Dodgin wrote:On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though. If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me. Well MVP is the greatest sc2 player ever. So if TLO wanted to win WCS EU he had to beat him! I don't think TLO was arrogant I just think he was very confident and in a good mental state. I just hope this "spanking" wont shake him to much That's certainly an overstatement. But MVP was definitely the best WOL player ever if "the best" was measured by achievements.
4 time GSL champion? You better delete you post or else Dodgin is going to rain hell fire on you ass
On May 26 2013 02:54 HonorZ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:31 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The korean zergs also are adopting this ZvP late game style? If yes, Blizzard have to do something to end it. I can't imagine nothing more boring and cheap. Just because BBK wasn't able to defend doesn't mean nobody can. A few Korean adopted this style, but Protoss Kr have adapted (it's more based around storms than colossus)
People said this back in the day when Stephano introduced his 12min max and infestor broodlord composition. And we all know how that went
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Will they start with the 5th place matches tomorrow? Don't want to miss the semi's 
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On May 26 2013 02:53 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:49 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:43 Dodgin wrote:On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though. If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me. Well MVP is the greatest sc2 player ever. So if TLO wanted to win WCS EU he had to beat him! I don't think TLO was arrogant I just think he was very confident and in a good mental state. I just hope this "spanking" wont shake him to much That's certainly an overstatement. But MVP was definitely the best WOL player ever if "the best" was measured by achievements.
I don't see many ways to measure it that don't result in the conclusion being Mvp.
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On May 26 2013 02:59 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:53 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:49 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:43 Dodgin wrote:On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though. If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me. Well MVP is the greatest sc2 player ever. So if TLO wanted to win WCS EU he had to beat him! I don't think TLO was arrogant I just think he was very confident and in a good mental state. I just hope this "spanking" wont shake him to much That's certainly an overstatement. But MVP was definitely the best WOL player ever if "the best" was measured by achievements. 4 time GSL champion? you better delete you post or else Dodgin is going to rain hell fire on you ass
4 time WOL GSL champion. Which certainly makes MVP the most accomplished WOL player. But saying that he's the best "ever" is an overstatement because that can only really be determined when the game reaches a conclusion. For instance: we can say Flash was the best BW player ever because he was the most accomplished and the pro scene of Brood War is dead which means that nobody else can contend for the throne. I will be more than happy to go toe to toe with anyone who wants to "rain hell fire on my ass" lol.
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On May 26 2013 03:03 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:53 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:49 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:43 Dodgin wrote:On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though. If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me. Well MVP is the greatest sc2 player ever. So if TLO wanted to win WCS EU he had to beat him! I don't think TLO was arrogant I just think he was very confident and in a good mental state. I just hope this "spanking" wont shake him to much That's certainly an overstatement. But MVP was definitely the best WOL player ever if "the best" was measured by achievements. I don't see many ways to measure it that don't result in the conclusion being Mvp.
MC earned slightly more money, maybe that counts?
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On May 26 2013 03:03 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 02:53 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:49 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:43 Dodgin wrote:On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though. If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me. Well MVP is the greatest sc2 player ever. So if TLO wanted to win WCS EU he had to beat him! I don't think TLO was arrogant I just think he was very confident and in a good mental state. I just hope this "spanking" wont shake him to much That's certainly an overstatement. But MVP was definitely the best WOL player ever if "the best" was measured by achievements. I don't see many ways to measure it that don't result in the conclusion being Mvp.
The fact that HotS was released in March of this year and we are still awaiting another expansion is why "ever" can't be measured.
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On May 26 2013 03:04 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 03:03 Kasaraki wrote:On May 26 2013 02:53 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:49 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:43 Dodgin wrote:On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though. If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me. Well MVP is the greatest sc2 player ever. So if TLO wanted to win WCS EU he had to beat him! I don't think TLO was arrogant I just think he was very confident and in a good mental state. I just hope this "spanking" wont shake him to much That's certainly an overstatement. But MVP was definitely the best WOL player ever if "the best" was measured by achievements. I don't see many ways to measure it that don't result in the conclusion being Mvp. MC earned slightly more money, maybe that counts?
Dirty foreigner money doesn't count.
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On May 26 2013 03:04 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2013 03:03 Kasaraki wrote:On May 26 2013 02:53 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:49 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:43 Dodgin wrote:On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though. If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me. Well MVP is the greatest sc2 player ever. So if TLO wanted to win WCS EU he had to beat him! I don't think TLO was arrogant I just think he was very confident and in a good mental state. I just hope this "spanking" wont shake him to much That's certainly an overstatement. But MVP was definitely the best WOL player ever if "the best" was measured by achievements. I don't see many ways to measure it that don't result in the conclusion being Mvp. MC earned slightly more money, maybe that counts?
Yeah that's one of the few. Mvp will barely not beat MC if he wins this tournament, but at the current rate MC might be dethroned due to losing out on premier league, for the first time since Mvp's 4th GSL pushed him above MC for a short while.
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calling it the finals while it's still the RO8 is stupid
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This Z lategame with spine forest and SW is very boring, but -fortunately- map dependent.
Daybreak has to go, btw.
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EPT
