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WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
May 25 2013 17:37 GMT
#3481
Also NA players could actually watch, which added around 10k viewers like Dodgin I woke up about 9:30am and saw last 2 games. Kinda glad about that don't think I could seriously stomach watching a 3 reverse all kill of Lucifron, TLO destruction and add the PvZ from hell.

I am shocked how many people bought into that "Stephano doesn't care he is thinking of medical school" line and assumed BabyKnight was some new Life. Stephano's foot has more accomplishments than BabyK of course he was going to kick it up a gear!

Only rooting heart = TLO head = Lucifron. TLO deserves the fame but Lucifron will be far better chance at beating a Korean.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
May 25 2013 17:37 GMT
#3482
On May 26 2013 02:32 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 02:31 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The korean zergs also are adopting this ZvP late game style? If yes, Blizzard have to do something to end it. I can't imagine nothing more boring and cheap.


It will come. There has always been some swarmhost pushes to deny toss 3rd in GSL

Stephano is like cryptonite to the Protos race



Conceptually speaking, SW was designed as a supportive and situational unit, right? Now it having been used as the main force against Protoss late game.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 25 2013 17:37 GMT
#3483
On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though.


If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 25 2013 17:37 GMT
#3484
ForGG is a strange strange man.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
May 25 2013 17:37 GMT
#3485
On May 26 2013 02:33 JacobShock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 02:25 TheDwf wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:23 JacobShock wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:21 TheDwf wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:20 Popkiller wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:19 TheDwf wrote:
Strong odds of Mvp vs Stephano finals, good.


don't see stephano beating a korean Terran.

ForGG has abysmal TvZ.


lol.. Abysmal huh?

Yes. Didn't you see his series against TLO in the RO16?


Nope. But abysmal is a strong word coming from a random guy on TL. Even if he did play horrible or bad in one series. I think you need to be at least fairly competent in the match up to reach high GM status. Sure his TvZ might be weak and his weakest match up. Maybe if you compare the guy up against innovation you can say his TvZ is "abysmal".

No, just comparing to his own general level is enough.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
May 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#3486
Cam Slayer
yo
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
May 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#3487
On May 26 2013 02:34 Salteador Neo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 02:31 Zheryn wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:29 Bagi wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:27 mongoose22 wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:19 FeyFey wrote:
Hope Locust are at range 2 soon again xD. Well hoped that for Roaches as well hehe .

So is Stephano no Legend anymore ? or is he beyond Legendary, Seraph class now ?


The locust range isn't the issue IMO, it's their lifetime and speed. For every second the locust lives, it can advance 2.625 on creep. 25 seconds of lifetime means a locust can travel 65.625 on creep before dying. So you can burrow the swarm host way, way back and still have the locusts hit a target. Doing something like reducing or removing the Enduring Locusts upgrade would be a way more effective nerf; 10 seconds of life for the locust is equivalent to 26.25 of range lost for the swarm host on creep, as well as give the swarm host assault a cooldown hole.

Why would you ever build a single swarm host if this nerf took place?


People are just crying about Swarm Hosts cause most protoss players facing it on streamed matches play like shit.


So this is the new version of the old "Terran players are just better" xD

Stfu guys he got it solved!! SH are not the problem, all protoss just play like shit!!


Well, if you don't agree that building a full ground army vs swarm hosts and not commiting fully to an attack to just try to run the zerg over is playing like shit, then you are wrong. It's like me making only roaches against pure immortals and complaining about immortals.
hundred thousand krouner
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#3488
On May 26 2013 02:37 Tiaraju9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 02:32 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:31 Tiaraju9 wrote:
The korean zergs also are adopting this ZvP late game style? If yes, Blizzard have to do something to end it. I can't imagine nothing more boring and cheap.


It will come. There has always been some swarmhost pushes to deny toss 3rd in GSL

Stephano is like cryptonite to the Protos race



Conceptually speaking, SW was designed as a supportive and situational unit, right? Now it having been used as the main force against Protoss late game.


I think it was suppose to work that way. Defence and deny space
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#3489
"vive la fougère"
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
May 25 2013 17:38 GMT
#3490
kaelaris worse cameraman ever rofl
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 25 2013 17:39 GMT
#3491
All hail the king! wow sucks that I couldn't watch today. The ForGG vs Lucifron reverse sounds like it would have been crazy to watch live
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Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 25 2013 17:39 GMT
#3492
--- Nuked ---
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 25 2013 17:39 GMT
#3493
Is White-Ra milkshake basically a white russian?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Zyzz12
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany135 Posts
May 25 2013 17:40 GMT
#3494
On May 26 2013 02:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
All hail the king! wow sucks that I couldn't watch today. The ForGG vs Lucifron reverse sounds like it would have been crazy to watch live


Watch the vods. :D
http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_europe/videos
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 25 2013 17:40 GMT
#3495
On May 26 2013 02:39 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Is White-Ra milkshake basically a white russian?


It looks that way its actually really delicious
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 25 2013 17:40 GMT
#3496
Kaelaris top 3 control
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 25 2013 17:43 GMT
#3497
On May 26 2013 02:40 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 02:39 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Is White-Ra milkshake basically a white russian?


It looks that way its actually really delicious


I really like white russian. 0.5 litre Kahlua, 0.5 milk and 0.5 vodka and you're ready to go. 1.5 litre of fun.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 25 2013 17:43 GMT
#3498
On May 26 2013 02:37 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 02:36 Dodgin wrote:
You know, I'm not trying to give TLO shit after he lost in this manner, but he shouldn't have said " he wanted to play mvp ". It's either foolish to underestimate him with preparation time, or extremely cocky to want to challenge yourself in that manner in the ro8 when he could have faced someone else and had a better chance to advance to the season finals. Maybe he was just trying to act tough since the draw wouldn't change no matter what he tweeted though.


If you don't believe you can beat anyone you got no business as a pro gamer. I liked TLO attitude


I agree, but he said " woo I wanted Mvp " or something along those lines, not that he was confident he could win, just seems foolish to me.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
May 25 2013 17:43 GMT
#3499
Carmac can't get away from the bumblebee colors.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9771 Posts
May 25 2013 17:44 GMT
#3500
On May 26 2013 02:43 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 02:40 Benjamin99 wrote:
On May 26 2013 02:39 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Is White-Ra milkshake basically a white russian?


It looks that way its actually really delicious


I really like white russian. 0.5 litre Kahlua, 0.5 milk and 0.5 vodka and you're ready to go. 1.5 litre of fun.


0.25 milk and 0.25 cream and ur really rocking.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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