INFORMATION (Why these are played): These matches are for the 5th and 6th (Korea is the host region) Code S places. We need them to decide the final spots in the Season Finals. Leenock's DreamHack win awarded points that go toward the Grand Finals at Blizzcon, and not the Season Finals.
On May 21 2013 20:38 bbfg wrote: Tastosis or wolf & khaldor?
Since tastosis said that their next cast will be thursday on todays gsl cast I'm fairly sure wolf/khaldor will cast this tomorrow. Really hoping parting makes it, would be a shame to have wcs s1 finals without last years world champion.
On May 21 2013 20:38 bbfg wrote: Tastosis or wolf & khaldor?
Since tastosis said that their next cast will be thursday on todays gsl cast I'm fairly sure wolf/khaldor will cast this tomorrow. Really hoping parting makes it, would be a shame to have wcs s1 finals without last years world champion.
Asked on twitter. Will post confirmation at OP when confirmed who is casting.
On May 21 2013 22:40 Pandemona wrote: Oh, so soon 0.O I thought it was a 3 season event, didn't know it was decided that quickly xD
I think its just points towards the world series final... higher placing = more points, but i don't really know either
Ah yeah that would make more sense. Guess more points for 5th and 6th than 7th and 8th :S
It is for the world season 1 finals. After season 1 is completed top 5 players from each region +1 extra from hosting region, which is Korea for the season 1 come together to play LAN tournament with prize pool of $100,000.
The seasonal finals are just the top 5 from each region their local Premier League (top 6 from organising region), so since we have a Ro8 and Ro4 in the tournaments the Ro4 is automatically qualified and there are 1/2 more spots for players eliminated in the Ro8. Korea organises the S1 seasonal final, so GOM decided to just randomly match them up and the winners are qualified for the seasonal final.
A group like we have in Ro32 and Ro16 would probably be fairest in this case, and if only one spot is up for grabs a simple 4 player bracket would probably work best.
Points are only for the finals at the end of year I think. Either way there is no indication that the winners from these matches will get more points, and if the seasonal final qualification was points based, Leenock would be guaranteed in. He has more points than anyone who didn't make it to Ro4.
On May 22 2013 03:14 Zenbrez wrote: This is happening at the same time as Code A?
looks like no, Code A is only the earlier session, and then it goes into these matches http://www.gomtv.net/schedule/index.gom woa sick Code A matches tonight
The TL calendar doesn't agree with the gomtv.net schedule! gomtv.net says that these placement matches start at Wednesday, May 22 9:10am GMT (GMT+00:00) in
Isn't Leenock ahead of them with his 750 DH points and like 100 Code S points? So the winners of the games would be 6th and 7th, meaning only one could go to the Season 1 finals.
On May 22 2013 08:06 Fionn wrote: These placement matches make no sense.
Isn't Leenock ahead of them with his 750 DH points and like 100 Code S points? So the winners of the games would be 6th and 7th, meaning only one could go to the Season 1 finals.
Yeah, I'm confused too lol. But as long as PartinG wins, alls cool.
On May 22 2013 08:06 Fionn wrote: These placement matches make no sense.
Isn't Leenock ahead of them with his 750 DH points and like 100 Code S points? So the winners of the games would be 6th and 7th, meaning only one could go to the Season 1 finals.
yea interesting that there's no 6th/7th place match? Or maybe they will have one later if it's needed?
On May 22 2013 08:06 Fionn wrote: These placement matches make no sense.
Isn't Leenock ahead of them with his 750 DH points and like 100 Code S points? So the winners of the games would be 6th and 7th, meaning only one could go to the Season 1 finals.
Points are only important for Blizzcon at the end of the year, they're completely worthless until then.
1-5th in WCS AM & EU go to the season finals, 1-6th in WCS KR go to the season finals. Next season when EU or NA hosts it they will get 6 spots instead of KR.
On May 22 2013 08:06 Fionn wrote: These placement matches make no sense.
Isn't Leenock ahead of them with his 750 DH points and like 100 Code S points? So the winners of the games would be 6th and 7th, meaning only one could go to the Season 1 finals.
the points do not matter for the seasonal finals, only the year end finals. so these spots are to get into the seasonal finals, where yet more points (and dollars) await.
On May 22 2013 08:06 Fionn wrote: These placement matches make no sense.
Isn't Leenock ahead of them with his 750 DH points and like 100 Code S points? So the winners of the games would be 6th and 7th, meaning only one could go to the Season 1 finals.
Pretty sure those only count for the very last grand world final championship or whatever its called
On May 22 2013 16:37 monk wrote: Does anyone know when the winners of these two matches will play?
They shouldnt have to play because Artosis already said Korea hosts the first season finals and 6 players from the host region get to play instead of the normal 5 so that they can do a 16 man tournament
On May 22 2013 16:50 Tsubbi wrote: i dont think people realize how important these matches are, pretty hyped already
yeah, I think calling them 'placement matches' makes people think they are meaningless when they are actually really important. They should have called them Season Finale Qualification Matches or something like that
my grandparents are over for a few days. yesterday evening when i watched round of 4 VODs my grandpa sat down to watch a bit of it with me. he had absolutely no idea what the hell was going on but he seemed kind of entertained even though he doesn't even speak english for shit. maybe i'll get him to watch tonight as well
On May 22 2013 18:02 Schelim wrote: my grandparents are over for a few days. yesterday evening when i watched round of 4 VODs my grandpa sat down to watch a bit of it with me. he had absolutely no idea what the hell was going on but he seemed kind of entertained even though he doesn't even speak english for shit. maybe i'll get him to watch tonight as well
Awesome! xD Should show him Kpop, he might like that even more :3
On May 22 2013 18:08 [OGN]Remmy wrote: I wonder how GOMTV made that bracket that roro vs parting & kangho vs bomber. It's no wonder roro and parting are the top two among these guys.
Random, probably with paper. OR they made it so KeSPA didn't meet eSF. (I realize you want to flamebait, but can't be assed. This might help people wondering).
On May 22 2013 18:08 [OGN]Remmy wrote: I wonder how GOMTV made that bracket that roro vs parting & kangho vs bomber. It's no wonder roro and parting are the top two among these guys.
The brackets will be determined by random drawing and the each match will be a best of 5. This season there will be 6 qualified players from the Korea region so there will be only 2 matches.
On May 22 2013 18:08 [OGN]Remmy wrote: I wonder how GOMTV made that bracket that roro vs parting & kangho vs bomber. It's no wonder roro and parting are the top two among these guys.
Random, probably with paper. OR they made it so KeSPA didn't meet eSF. (I realize you want to flamebait, but can't be assed. This might help people wondering).
I'm not flamebaitin' and I guess it's a compromise between KeSPA and eSF probably. I wanna see good matches and that's enough.
On May 22 2013 18:08 [OGN]Remmy wrote: I wonder how GOMTV made that bracket that roro vs parting & kangho vs bomber. It's no wonder roro and parting are the top two among these guys.
Random, probably with paper. OR they made it so KeSPA didn't meet eSF. (I realize you want to flamebait, but can't be assed. This might help people wondering).
I'm not flamebaitin' and I guess it's a compromise between KeSPA and eSF probably. I wanna see good matches and that's enough.
Random draw.
The brackets will be determined by random drawing and the each match will be a best of 5. This season there will be 6 qualified players from the Korea region so there will be only 2 matches.
On May 22 2013 18:11 ThomasR wrote: are tasteless and artosis that lazy? code s matches and they leave it for wolf and khaldor to cast
Really? Where is this lazy comment coming from? It's probably not up to them what matches they cast.
What EpiK said and in addition to that: Its just nice to see some 'fresh' wind as in other people casting Code S. I really like Tastosis but Khaldor + Wolf are great and lets see how their casting is with RorO/Parting etc. Don't know why anyone would see the need to bash anything here
On May 22 2013 18:08 [OGN]Remmy wrote: I wonder how GOMTV made that bracket that roro vs parting & kangho vs bomber. It's no wonder roro and parting are the top two among these guys.
Random, probably with paper. OR they made it so KeSPA didn't meet eSF. (I realize you want to flamebait, but can't be assed. This might help people wondering).
I'm not flamebaitin' and I guess it's a compromise between KeSPA and eSF probably. I wanna see good matches and that's enough.
Well, KangHo vs Bomber has a chance to be fun and good. TvZ you know. Having another terran in the season finals is better too.
On May 22 2013 18:11 ThomasR wrote: are tasteless and artosis that lazy? code s matches and they leave it for wolf and khaldor to cast
Really? Where is this lazy comment coming from? It's probably not up to them what matches they cast.
What EpiK said and in addition to that: Its just nice to see some 'fresh' wind as in other people casting Code S. I really like Tastosis but Khaldor + Wolf are great and lets see how their casting is with RorO/Parting etc. Don't know why anyone would see the need to bash anything here
Hmm "fresh wind". I'm pretty sure Khaldor and Wolf have been casting twice as many GSL matches as Tasteless and Artosis for a while now. They would have been "fresh" a year and a half ago, now Tastosis feels pretty fresh once in a while :D
Jesus christ PartinG lols that build if he randomly doesn't send all his units to watch tower >.< Also why didn't he resend probe out for the 6min scout and see 0 drones...
Roro spawns in the top right Parting spawns in the bottom left
0:00-4:00min Nexus first for Parting, then Forge in the main Pool first, then Hatchery for Roro
Parting starts to wall his natural with Pylon, Gateway and Cannon Roro builds his first Queen and Extractor
4:00-6:00min Third base for Roro, 8 Lings in production, Ling-Speed started Parting starts a Zealot and Cybernetics Core
+1 attack and warpgate research started for Parting more Lings in production for Roro
Parting moves out with his Zealot to take the watch tower and startss a Stalker Roro moves his Lings towards Parting's third, out of vision range of the watch tower
6:00-8:00min Ling-Speed about to finish Parting builds a 2nd Stalker and moves out with his first
Roro moves in with his Lings as Parting moves out with the Stalker Parting is not able to block at the wall, Lings stream in
Parting pulls the Probes in the natural to defend the Cannon but Roro has too many Lings the Probes fall, the Cannon falls, the Gateway units fall
Parting tries to build 2 cannons in his main mineral line but more Lings of Roro stream in Roro starts attacking the Probes at the main and Parting is forced to leave the game
On May 22 2013 18:11 ThomasR wrote: are tasteless and artosis that lazy? code s matches and they leave it for wolf and khaldor to cast
Really? Where is this lazy comment coming from? It's probably not up to them what matches they cast.
What EpiK said and in addition to that: Its just nice to see some 'fresh' wind as in other people casting Code S. I really like Tastosis but Khaldor + Wolf are great and lets see how their casting is with RorO/Parting etc. Don't know why anyone would see the need to bash anything here
Hmm "fresh wind". I'm pretty sure Khaldor and Wolf have been casting twice as many GSL matches as Tasteless and Artosis for a while now. They would have been "fresh" a year and a half ago, now Tastosis feels pretty fresh once in a while :D
How many GSL Code S matches have you seen Khaldor and Wolf cast? Thats what I meant. Not that Code A is lackluster in players, but Code S still has some of the very top players that don't get casted by them too often. Khaldor and Wolf are also not "thats the best player everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" so yeah, not trying to bash anyone, just like to see another style here and then.
Well PartinG is defo in better shape this time. 2 base gas build vs Phoenix opener...interesting ^_^ Oh wait he canceled the gas, ling upgrades from 2 base :S
On May 22 2013 18:11 ThomasR wrote: are tasteless and artosis that lazy? code s matches and they leave it for wolf and khaldor to cast
Really? Where is this lazy comment coming from? It's probably not up to them what matches they cast.
What EpiK said and in addition to that: Its just nice to see some 'fresh' wind as in other people casting Code S. I really like Tastosis but Khaldor + Wolf are great and lets see how their casting is with RorO/Parting etc. Don't know why anyone would see the need to bash anything here
Hmm "fresh wind". I'm pretty sure Khaldor and Wolf have been casting twice as many GSL matches as Tasteless and Artosis for a while now. They would have been "fresh" a year and a half ago, now Tastosis feels pretty fresh once in a while :D
How many GSL Code S matches have you seen Khaldor and Wolf cast? Thats what I meant. Not that Code A is lackluster in players, but Code S still has some of the very top players that don't get casted by them too often. Khaldor and Wolf are also not "thats the best player everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" so yeah, not trying to bash anyone, just like to see another style here and then.
I don't know man, Code A now is pretty much Code S from 6 months ago. I don't know why their Bomber-KangHo cast would be different from their Rain-Byun cast. And who casts better is still a matter a preference, not all of us fault Tasteless for his silly "Innovation is the best RTS World of Tanks player ever" :p
On May 22 2013 18:11 ThomasR wrote: are tasteless and artosis that lazy? code s matches and they leave it for wolf and khaldor to cast
Really? Where is this lazy comment coming from? It's probably not up to them what matches they cast.
What EpiK said and in addition to that: Its just nice to see some 'fresh' wind as in other people casting Code S. I really like Tastosis but Khaldor + Wolf are great and lets see how their casting is with RorO/Parting etc. Don't know why anyone would see the need to bash anything here
Hmm "fresh wind". I'm pretty sure Khaldor and Wolf have been casting twice as many GSL matches as Tasteless and Artosis for a while now. They would have been "fresh" a year and a half ago, now Tastosis feels pretty fresh once in a while :D
How many GSL Code S matches have you seen Khaldor and Wolf cast? Thats what I meant. Not that Code A is lackluster in players, but Code S still has some of the very top players that don't get casted by them too often. Khaldor and Wolf are also not "thats the best player everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" so yeah, not trying to bash anyone, just like to see another style here and then.
I don't know man, Code A now is pretty much Code S from 6 months ago. I don't know why their Bomber-KangHo cast would be different from their Rain-Byun cast. And who casts better is still a matter a preference, not all of us fault Tasteless for his silly "Innovation is the best RTS World of Tanks player ever" :p
I don't fault Tasteless for it. Neither do I think Khaldor and Wolf are better than Tastosis, they just have a different style and I like to hear that from time to time - for official Code S matches. I really don't see a point in discussing here
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the bottom right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, scouts with the Probe Roro goes for Hatch first, Parting was not able to block it
Nexus first for Parting Extractor and Pool for Roro
Parting starts a 2nd Pylon, then Gateway, then Forge 2 Assimilators started for Parting
Ling-Speed and 2 Queens on the way for Roro Parting scouts it with his Probe and starts his Cybernetics Core
4:00-6:00min Cannon started for Parting Warpgate research and Stargate on the way for Parting
Speed about to finish for Roro, still no third base yet 2nd Extractor started for Roro
6:00-8:00min 2 more Assimilators for Parting 3rd base for Roro
Phoenix production started for Parting +1 attack upgrades for Parting
2 Evolution Chambers for Roro, +1 armor and melee attack started Robotics Facility for Parting
Phoenix scouts the third of Roro Parting starts killing Overlords with his Phoenixes
8:00-10:00min Parting builds up to 5 Phoenixes and starts killing a few Drones Lair and more Extractors for Roro
Robotics Support Bay and 2 Observers for Parting Colossus production started for Parting
Phoenix kill a few more Drones in the main of Roro, up to 9 Drone kills +2 melee attack and armor started for Roro
10:00-12:00min Roro builds a bunch more Speedlings first Colossus out for Parting, 2nd Colossus and Extended Thermal Lance in production
Parting tries to take a thrid base with 1 Colossus, a bunch of Zealots and a few Sentries Roro attacks with a lot of Speed-Lings, gets a good surround and kills all the Sentries
No Protoss expert, but shouldn't PartinG be able to call the ultra build right now and switch into immortals immediately? He already has 3 colossi, more are of no use against lings anways?
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the bottom right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, scouts with the Probe Roro goes for Hatch first, Parting was not able to block it
Nexus first for Parting Extractor and Pool for Roro
Parting starts a 2nd Pylon, then Gateway, then Forge 2 Assimilators started for Parting
Ling-Speed and 2 Queens on the way for Roro Parting scouts it with his Probe and starts his Cybernetics Core
4:00-6:00min Cannon started for Parting Warpgate research and Stargate on the way for Parting
Speed about to finish for Roro, still no third base yet 2nd Extractor started for Roro
6:00-8:00min 2 more Assimilators for Parting 3rd base for Roro
Phoenix production started for Parting +1 attack upgrades for Parting
2 Evolution Chambers for Roro, +1 armor and melee attack started Robotics Facility for Parting
Phoenix scouts the third of Roro Parting starts killing Overlords with his Phoenixes
8:00-10:00min Parting builds up to 5 Phoenixes and starts killing a few Drones Lair and more Extractors for Roro
Robotics Support Bay and 2 Observers for Parting Colossus production started for Parting
Phoenix kill a few more Drones in the main of Roro, up to 9 Drone kills +2 melee attack and armor started for Roro
10:00-12:00min Roro builds a bunch more Speedlings first Colossus out for Parting, 2nd Colossus and Extended Thermal Lance in production
Parting tries to take a thrid base with 1 Colossus, a bunch of Zealots and a few Sentries Roro attacks with a lot of Speed-Lings, gets a good surround and kills all the Sentries
12:00-14:00min Parting is able to keep his Colossus alive and defend against the Lings More Lings are trying to snipe the Cybernetics Core
20 hitpoints left on the Core more Lings incoming but good Force Fields by Parting, 5 hp left on the Cybernetics Core
The third wave of Lings is finally able to snipe the Core
14:00-16:00min Hive done for Roro, +3 melee and armor, Adrenal Glands and Ultralisk Cavern started 2nd Robo for Parting, Blink finished, Charge research started
Parting starts double Immortal production Roro takes his 4th base at the right side of the map
Parting moves out with a bunch of Zealots and Stalkers and 4 Colossai and MommaCore
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the bottom right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, scouts with the Probe Roro goes for Hatch first, Parting was not able to block it
Nexus first for Parting Extractor and Pool for Roro
Parting starts a 2nd Pylon, then Gateway, then Forge 2 Assimilators started for Parting
Ling-Speed and 2 Queens on the way for Roro Parting scouts it with his Probe and starts his Cybernetics Core
4:00-6:00min Cannon started for Parting Warpgate research and Stargate on the way for Parting
Speed about to finish for Roro, still no third base yet 2nd Extractor started for Roro
6:00-8:00min 2 more Assimilators for Parting 3rd base for Roro
Phoenix production started for Parting +1 attack upgrades for Parting
2 Evolution Chambers for Roro, +1 armor and melee attack started Robotics Facility for Parting
Phoenix scouts the third of Roro Parting starts killing Overlords with his Phoenixes
8:00-10:00min Parting builds up to 5 Phoenixes and starts killing a few Drones Lair and more Extractors for Roro
Robotics Support Bay and 2 Observers for Parting Colossus production started for Parting
Phoenix kill a few more Drones in the main of Roro, up to 9 Drone kills +2 melee attack and armor started for Roro
10:00-12:00min Roro builds a bunch more Speedlings first Colossus out for Parting, 2nd Colossus and Extended Thermal Lance in production
Parting tries to take a thrid base with 1 Colossus, a bunch of Zealots and a few Sentries Roro attacks with a lot of Speed-Lings, gets a good surround and kills all the Sentries
12:00-14:00min Parting is able to keep his Colossus alive and defend against the Lings More Lings are trying to snipe the Cybernetics Core
20 hitpoints left on the Core more Lings incoming but good Force Fields by Parting, 5 hp left on the Cybernetics Core
The third wave of Lings is finally able to snipe the Core
14:00-16:00min Hive done for Roro, +3 melee and armor, Adrenal Glands and Ultralisk Cavern started 2nd Robo for Parting, Blink finished, Charge research started
Parting starts double Immortal production Roro takes his 4th base at the right side of the map
Parting moves out with a bunch of Zealots and Stalkers and 4 Colossai and MommaCore
16:00-18:00min Parting moves towards the natural of Roro but Ultralisks come out in time Parting recalls to his natural
Parting starts adding Archons and more Immortals to his army composition Storm research and 2nd Forge started for Parting
Spire and 5th base started for Roro Parting moves out on the map once again, Roro has to back off with his Ultralisk-Ling army
18:00-20:00min 2 additional Stargates in production for Parting +1 air attack started for Roro
Both players are close to being maxed Parting takes his 4th base on the left side of the map
Huge Zergling run-by tries to snipe the 4th Nexus but Parting has his army in position to deny it Another runby into the natural gets denied as well
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the bottom right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, scouts with the Probe Roro goes for Hatch first, Parting was not able to block it
Nexus first for Parting Extractor and Pool for Roro
Parting starts a 2nd Pylon, then Gateway, then Forge 2 Assimilators started for Parting
Ling-Speed and 2 Queens on the way for Roro Parting scouts it with his Probe and starts his Cybernetics Core
4:00-6:00min Cannon started for Parting Warpgate research and Stargate on the way for Parting
Speed about to finish for Roro, still no third base yet 2nd Extractor started for Roro
6:00-8:00min 2 more Assimilators for Parting 3rd base for Roro
Phoenix production started for Parting +1 attack upgrades for Parting
2 Evolution Chambers for Roro, +1 armor and melee attack started Robotics Facility for Parting
Phoenix scouts the third of Roro Parting starts killing Overlords with his Phoenixes
8:00-10:00min Parting builds up to 5 Phoenixes and starts killing a few Drones Lair and more Extractors for Roro
Robotics Support Bay and 2 Observers for Parting Colossus production started for Parting
Phoenix kill a few more Drones in the main of Roro, up to 9 Drone kills +2 melee attack and armor started for Roro
10:00-12:00min Roro builds a bunch more Speedlings first Colossus out for Parting, 2nd Colossus and Extended Thermal Lance in production
Parting tries to take a thrid base with 1 Colossus, a bunch of Zealots and a few Sentries Roro attacks with a lot of Speed-Lings, gets a good surround and kills all the Sentries
12:00-14:00min Parting is able to keep his Colossus alive and defend against the Lings More Lings are trying to snipe the Cybernetics Core
20 hitpoints left on the Core more Lings incoming but good Force Fields by Parting, 5 hp left on the Cybernetics Core
The third wave of Lings is finally able to snipe the Core
14:00-16:00min Hive done for Roro, +3 melee and armor, Adrenal Glands and Ultralisk Cavern started 2nd Robo for Parting, Blink finished, Charge research started
Parting starts double Immortal production Roro takes his 4th base at the right side of the map
Parting moves out with a bunch of Zealots and Stalkers and 4 Colossai and MommaCore
16:00-18:00min Parting moves towards the natural of Roro but Ultralisks come out in time Parting recalls to his natural
Parting starts adding Archons and more Immortals to his army composition Storm research and 2nd Forge started for Parting
Spire and 5th base started for Roro Parting moves out on the map once again, Roro has to back off with his Ultralisk-Ling army
18:00-20:00min 2 additional Stargates in production for Parting +1 air attack started for Roro
Both players are close to being maxed Parting takes his 4th base on the left side of the map
Huge Zergling run-by tries to snipe the 4th Nexus but Parting has his army in position to deny it Another runby into the natural gets denied as well
22:00-24:00min Roro starts Mutalisk production Roro hides the Mutas from Parting
Parting attacks the third and natural of Roro Roro decides to counter-attack with lots of Ultralisks and Mutalisks
a few Storms hit the Mutas but Roro splits and pulls back and keeps most of them alive Roro snipes the Stargates with the Mutas and Ultarlisks push into the natural
Parting recalls to his natural and Roro pulls back with all his Ultras but Mutas are doing lots of damage in the main Roro pulls back with his Mutas
Parting builds 4 Stargates at his third Roro builds more and more Mutas
Roro attacks the 4th and snipes it quickly and retreats Parting produces lots of Phoenixes but Roro has a loooooooooooot of Mutas and a few Corruptors mixed in
24:00-26:00min Parting moves towards Roro's 4th and takes it out with his main army Mutas move into the main of Parting, Ultralisks attack the natural and third
Parting recalls to his natural, Phoenix push back the mutas A few of Partings units were not recalled back, they snipe the third base of Roro
Parting repositions and tries to attack the 5th of Roro
There should be another option for Game 2 in that poll that says "HELL YES!!!!!" I'm Terran, and that game was absolutely beautiful play by Parting. 10/10.
I'm not familiar with the bracket system....are they playing for placement next season ? Do they already know who they will play against based on the results or is it more like a "showmatch" where the results don't matter much ?
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the bottom right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, scouts with the Probe Roro goes for Hatch first, Parting was not able to block it
Nexus first for Parting Extractor and Pool for Roro
Parting starts a 2nd Pylon, then Gateway, then Forge 2 Assimilators started for Parting
Ling-Speed and 2 Queens on the way for Roro Parting scouts it with his Probe and starts his Cybernetics Core
4:00-6:00min Cannon started for Parting Warpgate research and Stargate on the way for Parting
Speed about to finish for Roro, still no third base yet 2nd Extractor started for Roro
6:00-8:00min 2 more Assimilators for Parting 3rd base for Roro
Phoenix production started for Parting +1 attack upgrades for Parting
2 Evolution Chambers for Roro, +1 armor and melee attack started Robotics Facility for Parting
Phoenix scouts the third of Roro Parting starts killing Overlords with his Phoenixes
8:00-10:00min Parting builds up to 5 Phoenixes and starts killing a few Drones Lair and more Extractors for Roro
Robotics Support Bay and 2 Observers for Parting Colossus production started for Parting
Phoenix kill a few more Drones in the main of Roro, up to 9 Drone kills +2 melee attack and armor started for Roro
10:00-12:00min Roro builds a bunch more Speedlings first Colossus out for Parting, 2nd Colossus and Extended Thermal Lance in production
Parting tries to take a thrid base with 1 Colossus, a bunch of Zealots and a few Sentries Roro attacks with a lot of Speed-Lings, gets a good surround and kills all the Sentries
12:00-14:00min Parting is able to keep his Colossus alive and defend against the Lings More Lings are trying to snipe the Cybernetics Core
20 hitpoints left on the Core more Lings incoming but good Force Fields by Parting, 5 hp left on the Cybernetics Core
The third wave of Lings is finally able to snipe the Core
14:00-16:00min Hive done for Roro, +3 melee and armor, Adrenal Glands and Ultralisk Cavern started 2nd Robo for Parting, Blink finished, Charge research started
Parting starts double Immortal production Roro takes his 4th base at the right side of the map
Parting moves out with a bunch of Zealots and Stalkers and 4 Colossai and MommaCore
16:00-18:00min Parting moves towards the natural of Roro but Ultralisks come out in time Parting recalls to his natural
Parting starts adding Archons and more Immortals to his army composition Storm research and 2nd Forge started for Parting
Spire and 5th base started for Roro Parting moves out on the map once again, Roro has to back off with his Ultralisk-Ling army
18:00-20:00min 2 additional Stargates in production for Parting +1 air attack started for Roro
Both players are close to being maxed Parting takes his 4th base on the left side of the map
Huge Zergling run-by tries to snipe the 4th Nexus but Parting has his army in position to deny it Another runby into the natural gets denied as well
22:00-24:00min Roro starts Mutalisk production Roro hides the Mutas from Parting
Parting attacks the third and natural of Roro Roro decides to counter-attack with lots of Ultralisks and Mutalisks
a few Storms hit the Mutas but Roro splits and pulls back and keeps most of them alive Roro snipes the Stargates with the Mutas and Ultarlisks push into the natural
Parting recalls to his natural and Roro pulls back with all his Ultras but Mutas are doing lots of damage in the main Roro pulls back with his Mutas
Parting builds 4 Stargates at his third Roro builds more and more Mutas
Roro attacks the 4th and snipes it quickly and retreats Parting produces lots of Phoenixes but Roro has a loooooooooooot of Mutas and a few Corruptors mixed in
24:00-26:00min Parting moves towards Roro's 4th and takes it out with his main army Mutas move into the main of Parting, Ultralisks attack the natural and third
Parting recalls to his natural, Phoenix push back the mutas A few of Partings units were not recalled back, they snipe the third base of Roro
Parting repositions and tries to attack the 5th of Roro
26:00-28:00min Parting attacks the 5th of Roro which is his last mining base Roro tries to defend with his Ultralisk-Mutalisk-Corruptor army
Huge engagement in the 5th of Roro Mutalisks stack up and Archons get perfect hits on all the Air units of Roro
The Immortals and Colossai take out the Ultralisks, Archons and Phoenix deal with the Mutas and Corruptors Roro is forced to leave the game!
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
Great game. All came down to Parting's positioning in that last battle and those Archon shots. He was pretty ahead until the muta switch though, he really should have ended the game before that happened.
On May 22 2013 18:43 Eurekastreet wrote: I'm not familiar with the bracket system....are they playing for placement next season ? Do they already know who they will play against based on the results or is it more like a "showmatch" where the results don't matter much ?
These games are extremely important, the winners of these matches go to the WCS Season 1 finals which has a big prize pool and a lot of WCS points available.
The WCS season finals will have 6 players from KR, and 5 from NA and EU.
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
Hmm, I think you need several more spines to be save :D
On May 22 2013 18:43 NightOfTheDead wrote: Don't think Phoenixes needed range increase in Hots. Having storms, archons and pulse crystals is already good enough vs mutas anyway.
storm good against mutas ? did u see how ez ROro avoided parting 5 storms, pheonixes are the only counter to mass muta
On May 22 2013 18:43 Eurekastreet wrote: I'm not familiar with the bracket system....are they playing for placement next season ? Do they already know who they will play against based on the results or is it more like a "showmatch" where the results don't matter much ?
They're playing for 5th or 6th place. Winner gets 5th place. It's important this season because of the new WCS points system.
Oh, and from the OP:
On May 21 2013 20:31 Wintex wrote: INFORMATION (Why these are played): These matches are for the 5th and 6th (Korea is the host region) Code S places. We need them to decide the final spots in the Season Finals. Leenock's DreamHack win awarded points that go toward the Grand Finals at Blizzcon, and not the Season Finals.
On May 22 2013 18:43 NightOfTheDead wrote: Don't think Phoenixes needed range increase in Hots. Having storms, archons and pulse crystals is already good enough vs mutas anyway.
storm good against mutas ? did u see how ez ROro avoided parting 5 storms, pheonixes are the only counter to mass muta
Which they would do well enough with pulse crystals anyway. Now 5-6 phoenixes can totally shutdown early mutas.
Hey what song is that they are playing on the break right now? Its got cartoons placed in the real world for the music video, first song played after the second game.
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
On May 22 2013 18:46 BPLOL wrote: Hey what song is that they are playing on the break right now? Its got cartoons placed in the real world for the music video, first song played after the second game.
On May 22 2013 18:46 BPLOL wrote: Hey what song is that they are playing on the break right now? Its got cartoons placed in the real world for the music video, first song played after the second game.
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
Well, Mutas got buffed as well, to the extent that you can't actually defend with just Storm/Blink anymore. I think the default response to Protoss losing his initial 4-5 Phoenix should be a Muta switch, if at all possible. I don't think I've ever seen that not pay off; even if the Protoss wins, it's usually very close.
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
Ugh, Tal'Darim Altar... the nightmares....
Close air positions TDA! Those good old days...
I think I hated mutas on this map even more than the endless 4-gate wars :x
On May 22 2013 18:43 Toadvine wrote: Can't wait till Zergs catch on to the fact that the ultimate response to getting outplayed by Protoss is to simply make Mutas and basetrade.
They used to know it but then they got scared after the phoenix range patch. Don't you remember the days of 10034023478293421736412384 spines and then make 50 mutas and wait for a base trade?
Ugh, Tal'Darim Altar... the nightmares....
Close air positions TDA! Those good old days...
I think I hated mutas on this map even more than the endless 4-gate wars :x
It's about as much fun as mutas on Star Station right now : P
Roro spawns in the bottom right Parting spawns in the top left
0:00-4:00min Parting builds his first Pylon at the low ground and sends his Probe to scout Hatch first for Roro then Pool without Gas
Nexus first for Parting after scouting Roro's hatch first 2nd Pylon, Gateway and then Forge for Parting
fast third base for Roro first Queen started, 2 Lings in production
4:00-6:00min Cannon and Cybernetics Core started for Parting 2nd Queen started for Roro
Zealot, +1 attack and warpgate research for Parting 3rd Queen and lots of Drones for Roro
6:00-8:00min Stalker in production for Parting, 2nd Stalker directly after the first 3 additional Gateways started
Parting kept a Probe hidden out on the map, starts proxy Pylons Lair and 4 Gases started for Roro
Ling-speed, 24 Lings and Roach Warren for Roro Parting starts warping Zealots
8:00-10:00min Parting starts attacking the third of Roro with a bunch of Zealots and Stalkers Ling-Speed still not finished, 14 Roaches in production
Parting starts attacking the Hatchery but the first Roaches pop and Parting focuses on the Lings and Roaches The Hatchery survives and Roaches clean up the Zealots and Stalkers
2 Stargates and Robo for Parting Roro moves across the map with his Roaches
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the natural wall of Parting Parting produces lots of Phoenixes and Immortals
Parting starts harassing the mineral lines of Roro with the Phoenix Immortal and Sentries defend the natural of Parting but the Cybernetic Core gets destroyed
Roro spawns in the bottom right Parting spawns in the top left
0:00-4:00min Parting builds his first Pylon at the low ground and sends his Probe to scout Hatch first for Roro then Pool without Gas
Nexus first for Parting after scouting Roro's hatch first 2nd Pylon, Gateway and then Forge for Parting
fast third base for Roro first Queen started, 2 Lings in production
4:00-6:00min Cannon and Cybernetics Core started for Parting 2nd Queen started for Roro
Zealot, +1 attack and warpgate research for Parting 3rd Queen and lots of Drones for Roro
6:00-8:00min Stalker in production for Parting, 2nd Stalker directly after the first 3 additional Gateways started
Parting kept a Probe hidden out on the map, starts proxy Pylons Lair and 4 Gases started for Roro
Ling-speed, 24 Lings and Roach Warren for Roro Parting starts warping Zealots
8:00-10:00min Parting starts attacking the third of Roro with a bunch of Zealots and Stalkers Ling-Speed still not finished, 14 Roaches in production
Parting starts attacking the Hatchery but the first Roaches pop and Parting focuses on the Lings and Roaches The Hatchery survives and Roaches clean up the Zealots and Stalkers
2 Stargates and Robo for Parting Roro moves across the map with his Roaches
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the natural wall of Parting Parting produces lots of Phoenixes and Immortals
Parting starts harassing the mineral lines of Roro with the Phoenix Immortal and Sentries defend the natural of Parting but the Cybernetic Core gets destroyed
12:00-14:00min Robotics Support Bay for Parting Infestation Pit for Roro
Roro builds 7 Infestors and starts Hive, Spire and 2 Evolution Chambers Parting starts building Voidrays
4th base for Roro, more Infestors, Lings, +1 meele upgrades and adrenal glands started more Voidrays for Parting
14:00-16:00min Parting kills a few more Drones at the 4th of Roro but his Phoenixes get caught by fungal and all but one are destroyed 3rd base started for Parting, 2nd Colossus and Thermal Lance in production
still double Voidray production for Parting Roro starts a bunch of Corruptors and a 5th and 6th base
On May 22 2013 18:43 Eurekastreet wrote: I'm not familiar with the bracket system....are they playing for placement next season ? Do they already know who they will play against based on the results or is it more like a "showmatch" where the results don't matter much ?
These games are extremely important, the winners of these matches go to the WCS Season 1 finals which has a big prize pool and a lot of WCS points available.
The WCS season finals will have 6 players from KR, and 5 from NA and EU.
And the stream gg's T_T Edit: GOM stream is ok. It's a pity there is no pop-up window mode for it because it would be more convenient/safe to watch at work. That's why I usually watch on twitch at work.
Roro spawns in the bottom right Parting spawns in the top left
0:00-4:00min Parting builds his first Pylon at the low ground and sends his Probe to scout Hatch first for Roro then Pool without Gas
Nexus first for Parting after scouting Roro's hatch first 2nd Pylon, Gateway and then Forge for Parting
fast third base for Roro first Queen started, 2 Lings in production
4:00-6:00min Cannon and Cybernetics Core started for Parting 2nd Queen started for Roro
Zealot, +1 attack and warpgate research for Parting 3rd Queen and lots of Drones for Roro
6:00-8:00min Stalker in production for Parting, 2nd Stalker directly after the first 3 additional Gateways started
Parting kept a Probe hidden out on the map, starts proxy Pylons Lair and 4 Gases started for Roro
Ling-speed, 24 Lings and Roach Warren for Roro Parting starts warping Zealots
8:00-10:00min Parting starts attacking the third of Roro with a bunch of Zealots and Stalkers Ling-Speed still not finished, 14 Roaches in production
Parting starts attacking the Hatchery but the first Roaches pop and Parting focuses on the Lings and Roaches The Hatchery survives and Roaches clean up the Zealots and Stalkers
2 Stargates and Robo for Parting Roro moves across the map with his Roaches
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the natural wall of Parting Parting produces lots of Phoenixes and Immortals
Parting starts harassing the mineral lines of Roro with the Phoenix Immortal and Sentries defend the natural of Parting but the Cybernetic Core gets destroyed
12:00-14:00min Robotics Support Bay for Parting Infestation Pit for Roro
Roro builds 7 Infestors and starts Hive, Spire and 2 Evolution Chambers Parting starts building Voidrays
4th base for Roro, more Infestors, Lings, +1 meele upgrades and adrenal glands started more Voidrays for Parting
14:00-16:00min Parting kills a few more Drones at the 4th of Roro but his Phoenixes get caught by fungal and all but one are destroyed 3rd base started for Parting, 2nd Colossus and Thermal Lance in production
still double Voidray production for Parting Roro starts a bunch of Corruptors and a 5th and 6th base
16:00-18:00min 4th base started for Parting Roro is maxed out to Parting's 150 supply
+2 melee and armor started for Roro Roro's army consists of lots of Infestors and Corruptors and a small bunch of Roaches and Lings
Roro attacks the 4th of Parting and throws down a lot of Infested Terrans to deny it Parting stays defensive in his third and starts +1 air attack and more Voidrays and Colossai
18:00-20:00min Roro catches Parting's army with a Fungal and attacks with all his Corruptors and Lings and Roaches
and my stream died.....
Stream back up, looks like Roro traded most of his army to the Voidrays of Parting
The stream is very laggy T.T
20:00-22:00min The stream died again, last thing I saw was Roro producing lots of Lings and starting Broodlords
Roro attacks the 4th of Parting with Broodlord-Corruptor-Infestor Parting tries to get a Colossus-Voidray-army up and tries to defend but Roro has the superior army
Parting loses his army and is forced out of the game.
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the top right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, sends his Probe to scout and directly finds Roro Pool first for Roro, tries to get the Hatchery but gets denied by Partings Probe for a few seconds
Nexus first, then Forge and gateway for Parting first Queen and 2 Lings started for Roro
Cannon and 2 Assimilators started for Parting third base started for Roro
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the top right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, sends his Probe to scout and directly finds Roro Pool first for Roro, tries to get the Hatchery but gets denied by Partings Probe for a few seconds
Nexus first, then Forge and gateway for Parting first Queen and 2 Lings started for Roro
Cannon and 2 Assimilators started for Parting third base started for Roro
4:00-6:00min Warpgate research and Zealot started for Parting Stargate in production
Drones, Queens and Overlords for Roro
6:00-8:00min First 2 Extractors started for Roro +1 attack and Phoenix started for Parting
Evolution Chamber and Roach Warren started for Roro Parting starts hunting Overlords with his Phoenixes
Robotics Facility and 3 additional Gateways for Parting, Roro is able to scout it with an Overlord Lair, +1 missile attacks and Ling-Speed started for Roro
the only thing spores accomplish is that overlords are safe so i dont get why some korean zergs get 2 spores per base, phoenix will dump all their energy into dorne kills anyways
On May 22 2013 19:15 Heartland wrote: Whatcha all think of this SKT T1 style of immediately going out with your first Phoenix to kill OL:s and scout rather than wait for four Phoenix?
for me, it depends on whether zerg scouts stargate
Why is this simple push seeming to give Toss so many more problems than they had with it in WoL? Ok nvm this didnt go as badly as it did for SoS every game I watched yesterday..
On May 22 2013 19:15 Heartland wrote: Whatcha all think of this SKT T1 style of immediately going out with your first Phoenix to kill OL:s and scout rather than wait for four Phoenix?
for me, it depends on whether zerg scouts stargate
Mmm, I mean when they don't scout the Stargate. If they do then it's obvious you should get out there before the OL:s fly home.
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the top right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, sends his Probe to scout and directly finds Roro Pool first for Roro, tries to get the Hatchery but gets denied by Partings Probe for a few seconds
Nexus first, then Forge and gateway for Parting first Queen and 2 Lings started for Roro
Cannon and 2 Assimilators started for Parting third base started for Roro
4:00-6:00min Warpgate research and Zealot started for Parting Stargate in production
Drones, Queens and Overlords for Roro
6:00-8:00min First 2 Extractors started for Roro +1 attack and Phoenix started for Parting
Evolution Chamber and Roach Warren started for Roro Parting starts hunting Overlords with his Phoenixes
Robotics Facility and 3 additional Gateways for Parting, Roro is able to scout it with an Overlord Lair, +1 missile attacks and Ling-Speed started for Roro
8:00-10:00min Roach Speed, Macro-Hatch, Roaches and Lings in production for Roro third base started for Parting, also Twilight Council and Robotics Support Bay in production
Lings try to do some damage at the third but quick Force Fields push them back Quite a lot of Roaches moving across the map
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the third, Force Fields go down and Roro retreats and attacks the natural instead In the meantime Spire is started for Roro
Parting is able to defend with Photon Overcharge, Force Fields and his first Colossus popping out Lots of Lings in production for Roro
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the top right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, sends his Probe to scout and directly finds Roro Pool first for Roro, tries to get the Hatchery but gets denied by Partings Probe for a few seconds
Nexus first, then Forge and gateway for Parting first Queen and 2 Lings started for Roro
Cannon and 2 Assimilators started for Parting third base started for Roro
4:00-6:00min Warpgate research and Zealot started for Parting Stargate in production
Drones, Queens and Overlords for Roro
6:00-8:00min First 2 Extractors started for Roro +1 attack and Phoenix started for Parting
Evolution Chamber and Roach Warren started for Roro Parting starts hunting Overlords with his Phoenixes
Robotics Facility and 3 additional Gateways for Parting, Roro is able to scout it with an Overlord Lair, +1 missile attacks and Ling-Speed started for Roro
8:00-10:00min Roach Speed, Macro-Hatch, Roaches and Lings in production for Roro third base started for Parting, also Twilight Council and Robotics Support Bay in production
Lings try to do some damage at the third but quick Force Fields push them back Quite a lot of Roaches moving across the map
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the third, Force Fields go down and Roro retreats and attacks the natural instead In the meantime Spire is started for Roro
Parting is able to defend with Photon Overcharge, Force Fields and his first Colossus popping out Lots of Lings in production for Roro
12:00-14:00min Roro tries to harass some more and the natural and third of Parting while taking his 4th and starting lots of Mutalisks Parting scouts the Mutalisks with his Phoenixes but loses 2 of them
Roro tries to attack the main of Parting with Mutalisks but Blink Stalkers force him back Phoenixes and 2nd Stargate in production for Parting
14:00-16:00min Lings and Mutas in production for Roro Roro attacks the natural of Parting with Lings and Mutalisks and gets the MommaCore but has to retreat again
more and more Mutas for Roro Fleet Beacon started for Parting
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the top right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, sends his Probe to scout and directly finds Roro Pool first for Roro, tries to get the Hatchery but gets denied by Partings Probe for a few seconds
Nexus first, then Forge and gateway for Parting first Queen and 2 Lings started for Roro
Cannon and 2 Assimilators started for Parting third base started for Roro
4:00-6:00min Warpgate research and Zealot started for Parting Stargate in production
Drones, Queens and Overlords for Roro
6:00-8:00min First 2 Extractors started for Roro +1 attack and Phoenix started for Parting
Evolution Chamber and Roach Warren started for Roro Parting starts hunting Overlords with his Phoenixes
Robotics Facility and 3 additional Gateways for Parting, Roro is able to scout it with an Overlord Lair, +1 missile attacks and Ling-Speed started for Roro
8:00-10:00min Roach Speed, Macro-Hatch, Roaches and Lings in production for Roro third base started for Parting, also Twilight Council and Robotics Support Bay in production
Lings try to do some damage at the third but quick Force Fields push them back Quite a lot of Roaches moving across the map
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the third, Force Fields go down and Roro retreats and attacks the natural instead In the meantime Spire is started for Roro
Parting is able to defend with Photon Overcharge, Force Fields and his first Colossus popping out Lots of Lings in production for Roro
12:00-14:00min Roro tries to harass some more and the natural and third of Parting while taking his 4th and starting lots of Mutalisks Parting scouts the Mutalisks with his Phoenixes but loses 2 of them
Roro tries to attack the main of Parting with Mutalisks but Blink Stalkers force him back Phoenixes and 2nd Stargate in production for Parting
14:00-16:00min Lings and Mutas in production for Roro Roro attacks the natural of Parting with Lings and Mutalisks and gets the MommaCore but has to retreat again
more and more Mutas for Roro Fleet Beacon started for Parting
16:00-18:00min Roro tries to harass the main once again but Phoenixes and Cannons defend against the Mutalisk masses Roro takes a 5th hidden at Parting's side of the map
Parting tries to take a 4th base but Roro denies it with his Mutalisks Roro starts Infestation Pit and adds Corruptors to his unit mix
18:00-20:00min Hive and a few Infestors started for Roro Parting tries to force a fight since both players are maxed now
Roro keeps dancing around Parting's army with his Mutas and Corruptors Parting uses his Phoenixes to zone out the Mutas and Corruptors and attacks the natural of Roro with his main army
20:00-22:00min Roro goes for the counter-attack and takes out the 4th of Roro with his Mutalisks 22 Mutalisks in production for Roro
Parting takes out the third of Roro Parting is maxed out to 160 supply of Roro
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the top right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, sends his Probe to scout and directly finds Roro Pool first for Roro, tries to get the Hatchery but gets denied by Partings Probe for a few seconds
Nexus first, then Forge and gateway for Parting first Queen and 2 Lings started for Roro
Cannon and 2 Assimilators started for Parting third base started for Roro
4:00-6:00min Warpgate research and Zealot started for Parting Stargate in production
Drones, Queens and Overlords for Roro
6:00-8:00min First 2 Extractors started for Roro +1 attack and Phoenix started for Parting
Evolution Chamber and Roach Warren started for Roro Parting starts hunting Overlords with his Phoenixes
Robotics Facility and 3 additional Gateways for Parting, Roro is able to scout it with an Overlord Lair, +1 missile attacks and Ling-Speed started for Roro
8:00-10:00min Roach Speed, Macro-Hatch, Roaches and Lings in production for Roro third base started for Parting, also Twilight Council and Robotics Support Bay in production
Lings try to do some damage at the third but quick Force Fields push them back Quite a lot of Roaches moving across the map
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the third, Force Fields go down and Roro retreats and attacks the natural instead In the meantime Spire is started for Roro
Parting is able to defend with Photon Overcharge, Force Fields and his first Colossus popping out Lots of Lings in production for Roro
12:00-14:00min Roro tries to harass some more and the natural and third of Parting while taking his 4th and starting lots of Mutalisks Parting scouts the Mutalisks with his Phoenixes but loses 2 of them
Roro tries to attack the main of Parting with Mutalisks but Blink Stalkers force him back Phoenixes and 2nd Stargate in production for Parting
14:00-16:00min Lings and Mutas in production for Roro Roro attacks the natural of Parting with Lings and Mutalisks and gets the MommaCore but has to retreat again
more and more Mutas for Roro Fleet Beacon started for Parting
16:00-18:00min Roro tries to harass the main once again but Phoenixes and Cannons defend against the Mutalisk masses Roro takes a 5th hidden at Parting's side of the map
Parting tries to take a 4th base but Roro denies it with his Mutalisks Roro starts Infestation Pit and adds Corruptors to his unit mix
18:00-20:00min Hive and a few Infestors started for Roro Parting tries to force a fight since both players are maxed now
Roro keeps dancing around Parting's army with his Mutas and Corruptors Parting uses his Phoenixes to zone out the Mutas and Corruptors and attacks the natural of Roro with his main army
20:00-22:00min Roro goes for the counter-attack and takes out the 4th of Roro with his Mutalisks 22 Mutalisks in production for Roro
Parting takes out the third of Roro Parting is maxed out to 160 supply of Roro
22:00-24:00min Parting tries to take out the 4th of Roro with 2 Immortals while backing off to his own bases Roro defends his 4th with his Mutalisks but loses the hidden proxy base to Parting's main army
Parting is still maxed and builds lots of defensive Cannons while trying to attack Roro's natural again
24:00-26:00min Parting takes out the Hatchery at the natural and at the third Roro doesn't want to engage, he dodges Parting's main army with his Mutalisk-Corruptor ball
Parting takes out the 4th of Roro Roro taks addtional bases at the bottom left of the map
RoRo haven't even touched PartinGs bases, even when PartinG is waaaaay out of position to defend. Mutas will win base trade scenarios in 80 % of the cases, so I have no idea what RoRo is doing here with such a massive amount of Mutas.
What is RorO doing? He's running around with mutas... he could fight the main army of PartinG and win OR basetrade, I don't know what he's doing seriously.
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the top right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, sends his Probe to scout and directly finds Roro Pool first for Roro, tries to get the Hatchery but gets denied by Partings Probe for a few seconds
Nexus first, then Forge and gateway for Parting first Queen and 2 Lings started for Roro
Cannon and 2 Assimilators started for Parting third base started for Roro
4:00-6:00min Warpgate research and Zealot started for Parting Stargate in production
Drones, Queens and Overlords for Roro
6:00-8:00min First 2 Extractors started for Roro +1 attack and Phoenix started for Parting
Evolution Chamber and Roach Warren started for Roro Parting starts hunting Overlords with his Phoenixes
Robotics Facility and 3 additional Gateways for Parting, Roro is able to scout it with an Overlord Lair, +1 missile attacks and Ling-Speed started for Roro
8:00-10:00min Roach Speed, Macro-Hatch, Roaches and Lings in production for Roro third base started for Parting, also Twilight Council and Robotics Support Bay in production
Lings try to do some damage at the third but quick Force Fields push them back Quite a lot of Roaches moving across the map
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the third, Force Fields go down and Roro retreats and attacks the natural instead In the meantime Spire is started for Roro
Parting is able to defend with Photon Overcharge, Force Fields and his first Colossus popping out Lots of Lings in production for Roro
12:00-14:00min Roro tries to harass some more and the natural and third of Parting while taking his 4th and starting lots of Mutalisks Parting scouts the Mutalisks with his Phoenixes but loses 2 of them
Roro tries to attack the main of Parting with Mutalisks but Blink Stalkers force him back Phoenixes and 2nd Stargate in production for Parting
14:00-16:00min Lings and Mutas in production for Roro Roro attacks the natural of Parting with Lings and Mutalisks and gets the MommaCore but has to retreat again
more and more Mutas for Roro Fleet Beacon started for Parting
16:00-18:00min Roro tries to harass the main once again but Phoenixes and Cannons defend against the Mutalisk masses Roro takes a 5th hidden at Parting's side of the map
Parting tries to take a 4th base but Roro denies it with his Mutalisks Roro starts Infestation Pit and adds Corruptors to his unit mix
18:00-20:00min Hive and a few Infestors started for Roro Parting tries to force a fight since both players are maxed now
Roro keeps dancing around Parting's army with his Mutas and Corruptors Parting uses his Phoenixes to zone out the Mutas and Corruptors and attacks the natural of Roro with his main army
20:00-22:00min Roro goes for the counter-attack and takes out the 4th of Roro with his Mutalisks 22 Mutalisks in production for Roro
Parting takes out the third of Roro Parting is maxed out to 160 supply of Roro
22:00-24:00min Parting tries to take out the 4th of Roro with 2 Immortals while backing off to his own bases Roro defends his 4th with his Mutalisks but loses the hidden proxy base to Parting's main army
Parting is still maxed and builds lots of defensive Cannons while trying to attack Roro's natural again
24:00-26:00min Parting takes out the Hatchery at the natural and at the third Roro doesn't want to engage, he dodges Parting's main army with his Mutalisk-Corruptor ball
Parting takes out the 4th of Roro Roro taks addtional bases at the bottom left of the map
26:00-28:00min Parting attacks the bottom left bases of Roro Roro tries to defend and engage the Phoenixes without Stalker-support but Parting is on top of things
Roro tries to take another hidden base but Parting scouts it with a hallucinated Phoenix
Finally a real engagement! Roro takes out all 3 Colossai of Parting
28:00-30:00min
Parting is out of position, he loses most of his Stalkers as his Phoenixes are not there to help Parting is mined out and his 4th gets canceled
Both players are on 120 supply, Parting is on Stalker-Archon-Templar-Phoenix, Roro still only Corruptors and Mutalisks
On May 22 2013 19:29 GreyKnight wrote: Roro's muta play is not very strong in my opinion. He just nails the transition perfectly for the advantage but the actual usage is quite weak.
RorO's micro and engagements aren't that good to begin with, I don't remember seeing him going once with Mutalisks in WoL.
OMG PartinG worst descion ever....lets engage battle and forget to move my templar into position ^_^ PartinGs 4th base might win him this though, RorO has nothing really to attack him yet.
That was really awesome, but Parting could have won if he wasn't so aggressive with his phoenixes throughout the game and lost a lot for no reason to corruptors.
Honestly that was a shitty ending. If parting would have just kept his HT's with his army both times he would have won easily. Why did he keep leaving them behind?
Had Parting micro'd that last phoenix + archon battle better he'd have won. He had archons attacking a single muta when there were like 4 of them bunched up, and his phoenixes was on the wrong side attacking corruptors.
On May 22 2013 19:36 Pibacc wrote: Honestly that was a shitty ending. If parting would have just kept his HT's with his army both times he would have won easily. Why did he keep leaving them behind?
He wouldn't have won, the game just would have gone on a bit longer because the mutas would have retreated and healed to full from the storms in like 1 minute.
Roro spawns in the top left Parting spawns in the top right
0:00-4:00min Pylon in the natural for Parting, sends his Probe to scout and directly finds Roro Pool first for Roro, tries to get the Hatchery but gets denied by Partings Probe for a few seconds
Nexus first, then Forge and gateway for Parting first Queen and 2 Lings started for Roro
Cannon and 2 Assimilators started for Parting third base started for Roro
4:00-6:00min Warpgate research and Zealot started for Parting Stargate in production
Drones, Queens and Overlords for Roro
6:00-8:00min First 2 Extractors started for Roro +1 attack and Phoenix started for Parting
Evolution Chamber and Roach Warren started for Roro Parting starts hunting Overlords with his Phoenixes
Robotics Facility and 3 additional Gateways for Parting, Roro is able to scout it with an Overlord Lair, +1 missile attacks and Ling-Speed started for Roro
8:00-10:00min Roach Speed, Macro-Hatch, Roaches and Lings in production for Roro third base started for Parting, also Twilight Council and Robotics Support Bay in production
Lings try to do some damage at the third but quick Force Fields push them back Quite a lot of Roaches moving across the map
10:00-12:00min Roro starts attacking the third, Force Fields go down and Roro retreats and attacks the natural instead In the meantime Spire is started for Roro
Parting is able to defend with Photon Overcharge, Force Fields and his first Colossus popping out Lots of Lings in production for Roro
12:00-14:00min Roro tries to harass some more and the natural and third of Parting while taking his 4th and starting lots of Mutalisks Parting scouts the Mutalisks with his Phoenixes but loses 2 of them
Roro tries to attack the main of Parting with Mutalisks but Blink Stalkers force him back Phoenixes and 2nd Stargate in production for Parting
14:00-16:00min Lings and Mutas in production for Roro Roro attacks the natural of Parting with Lings and Mutalisks and gets the MommaCore but has to retreat again
more and more Mutas for Roro Fleet Beacon started for Parting
16:00-18:00min Roro tries to harass the main once again but Phoenixes and Cannons defend against the Mutalisk masses Roro takes a 5th hidden at Parting's side of the map
Parting tries to take a 4th base but Roro denies it with his Mutalisks Roro starts Infestation Pit and adds Corruptors to his unit mix
18:00-20:00min Hive and a few Infestors started for Roro Parting tries to force a fight since both players are maxed now
Roro keeps dancing around Parting's army with his Mutas and Corruptors Parting uses his Phoenixes to zone out the Mutas and Corruptors and attacks the natural of Roro with his main army
20:00-22:00min Roro goes for the counter-attack and takes out the 4th of Roro with his Mutalisks 22 Mutalisks in production for Roro
Parting takes out the third of Roro Parting is maxed out to 160 supply of Roro
22:00-24:00min Parting tries to take out the 4th of Roro with 2 Immortals while backing off to his own bases Roro defends his 4th with his Mutalisks but loses the hidden proxy base to Parting's main army
Parting is still maxed and builds lots of defensive Cannons while trying to attack Roro's natural again
24:00-26:00min Parting takes out the Hatchery at the natural and at the third Roro doesn't want to engage, he dodges Parting's main army with his Mutalisk-Corruptor ball
Parting takes out the 4th of Roro Roro taks addtional bases at the bottom left of the map
26:00-28:00min Parting attacks the bottom left bases of Roro Roro tries to defend and engage the Phoenixes without Stalker-support but Parting is on top of things
Roro tries to take another hidden base but Parting scouts it with a hallucinated Phoenix
Finally a real engagement! Roro takes out all 3 Colossai of Parting
28:00-30:00min
Parting is out of position, he loses most of his Stalkers as his Phoenixes are not there to help Parting is mined out and his 4th gets canceled
Both players are on 120 supply, Parting is on Stalker-Archon-Templar-Phoenix, Roro still only Corruptors and Mutalisks
30:00-32:00min Roro is still mining a little bit from his natural, Parting is long-range mining from his 4th Parting moves across the map with his army
Roro engages him while the Templar are still only halfway across the map! Parting loses all his Stalkers and Archons to the Mutalisks before the Templars get there
Parting has enough money to get 2 Archons, so Parting is on 2 Archons, 1 Templar and 4 Phoenixes now Roro is on 12 Mutalisks and 5 Corruptors
32:00-34:00min Only one single mineral patch left in Roro's natural Parting starts a Nexus at his 4th base
Parting micros his Phoenixes around and tries to slowly take Roro's Mutalisks out Parting loses one Phoenix
34:00-36:00min Roro goes for the attack on Parting's 4th Roro splits his units and is able to take out the Archons and Templar
Both players trade their armys, Roro has 4 Mutalisks and 5 Corruptors left Parting is able to warp in 3 Stalkers and starts microing against the Mutas with Blink
Roro builds 8 Zerglings Parting tries to kill the Mutalisks with his Stalkers
Both players micro like they've never micro'ed before!
The Zerglings get across the map and Parting is forced to pull his Probes Probes and Stalkers against Mutas and Zerglings
The Mutas and Zerglings win! RorO wins an incredibly close game and takes the series with 3-1!!!
On May 22 2013 19:36 Pibacc wrote: Honestly that was a shitty ending. If parting would have just kept his HT's with his army both times he would have won easily. Why did he keep leaving them behind?
He wouldn't have won, the game just would have gone on a bit longer because the mutas would have retreated and healed to full from the storms in like 1 minute.
He would have won EASY. Not even remotely close. He fought the big battle without 5-6 HTs. If he has them it is not even close. He left them behind and fought without and lost the game because of it. How he could justify leaving his best units behind blows my mind.
On May 22 2013 19:36 negativedge wrote: couldn't parting have turtled on those cannons forever while he rebuilt some probes?
and do what? distance ninja-distance mine from the same patches that roro is distance mining from? There's no way parting would be mining from the lower half anymore. if he has to rebuild, he's spending his money to create more money, and roro has that exisiting mining already without having to invest in more drones.
On May 22 2013 19:38 StelleWind wrote: its rare to see parting makes such many mistakes, especially in micro
It happens when you play a really good opponent. There's unforced mistakes, and there's forced mistakes where you make your opponent do so many things at once that some are bound to be mistakes.
On May 22 2013 19:36 monk wrote: Probably like 4th closest game ever
Your top 3? sC vs Nestea, of course, and... ?
Nestea vs naniwa, it went down to the very last workers.
Gumiho vs Losira, Bisu vs Shine, a random ZvZ on Metropolish that involved Sniper from IPTL, that Masterasia game everyone always mentions are contenders
On May 22 2013 19:36 Pibacc wrote: Honestly that was a shitty ending. If parting would have just kept his HT's with his army both times he would have won easily. Why did he keep leaving them behind?
He wouldn't have won, the game just would have gone on a bit longer because the mutas would have retreated and healed to full from the storms in like 1 minute.
It was really close even tough he forgot two times his high templars . With them even whithout money storms PartinG would have won .
On May 22 2013 19:36 monk wrote: Probably like 4th closest game ever
Your top 3? sC vs Nestea, of course, and... ?
Nestea vs naniwa, it went down to the very last workers.
Gumiho vs Losira, Bisu vs Shine, a random ZvZ on Metropolish that involved Sniper from IPTL, that Masterasia game everyone always mentions are contenders
Mutas are just beyond a joke, he literally went mass muta with a few Corrupter support to take on everying in the protoss arsenal apart from tier 3 air which would of been even worst off. Seriously something major needs to be done about that unit to help protoss. At Pro level and lower levels mutas are the bane of toss.
Both players played extremely well it just came down to two major mistakes by Parting being caught without templars at the hidden bottom base and taking a fight with the templar lagging behind at Roro's third. It was definitely one of the best PvZ's we have seen.
On May 22 2013 19:36 Killmouse wrote: wtf he has so many cannons...... he coulda force a draw
Roro had workers
yea sure but parting could just move his workes back to the cannons instead of attack with them ~~ he could still do smthing
Are you stupid? RoRo had workers long distance mining plus an army to kill any workers that moved out to try and kill his workers. If RoRo had no workers, it would have been a draw.
On May 22 2013 19:42 Zee94 wrote: Mutas are just beyond a joke, he literally went mass muta with a few Corrupter support to take on everying in the protoss arsenal apart from tier 3 air which would of been even worst off. Seriously something major needs to be done about that unit to help protoss. At Pro level and lower levels mutas are the bane of toss.
If protoss let zerg to have 10 gases that early, what do you expect.
On May 22 2013 19:42 Zee94 wrote: Mutas are just beyond a joke, he literally went mass muta with a few Corrupter support to take on everying in the protoss arsenal apart from tier 3 air which would of been even worst off. Seriously something major needs to be done about that unit to help protoss. At Pro level and lower levels mutas are the bane of toss.
The thing I wonder is if Protoss can get into a composition that Zerg has even more trouble if they dont play this way. I can see this kind of strategy getting very tiresome soon but maybe the meta will change. The last 3-4 PvZ's I have watched have all been these exact same strats. Would love for some variety.
On May 22 2013 19:38 thepuppyassassin wrote: The lack of emotion after such a close game is the reason RoRo has only 400 twitter followers.
Indeed. Stephano has thousands of followers and he always looks so excited and emotional after important victories.
Good one! He has personality. Roro doesn't, which is what I was suggesting.
If you're Koren, you probably have no clue what Stephano's personality is because you don't know what the fuck he's saying. Same goes with Roro. Dude had tons of fans come watch him at the finals. He has a very big female fan base. Just because he doesn't have tons of foreign followers on Twitter doesn't mean he's unpopular or have no personality. Most people following on Twitter are foreigners.
On May 22 2013 19:38 thepuppyassassin wrote: The lack of emotion after such a close game is the reason RoRo has only 400 twitter followers.
Indeed. Stephano has thousands of followers and he always looks so excited and emotional after important victories.
Good one! He has personality. Roro doesn't, which is what I was suggesting.
If you're Koren, you probably have no clue what Stephano's personality is because you don't know what the fuck he's saying. Same goes with Roro. Dude had tons of fans come watch him at the finals. He has a very big female fan base. Just because he doesn't have tons of foreign followers on Twitter doesn't mean he's unpopular or have no personality. Most people following on Twitter are foreigners.
Reminds me of ABC Mart MSL? Guitar smash ceremony :D
On May 22 2013 19:38 thepuppyassassin wrote: The lack of emotion after such a close game is the reason RoRo has only 400 twitter followers.
Indeed. Stephano has thousands of followers and he always looks so excited and emotional after important victories.
Good one! He has personality. Roro doesn't, which is what I was suggesting.
roro definitely showed personality in the group selection ceremony and in live interviews. He was pretty funny in the banter with the commentators in the ceremony, and seemed like a very easygoing/cool person. Not everyone likes to openly express happiness or relief. Doesn't mean they're boring people.
On May 22 2013 19:38 thepuppyassassin wrote: The lack of emotion after such a close game is the reason RoRo has only 400 twitter followers.
Indeed. Stephano has thousands of followers and he always looks so excited and emotional after important victories.
Good one! He has personality. Roro doesn't, which is what I was suggesting.
how do you know?
drop it mate, being a honorable sportsman means having no personality these days. you gotta cry and yell all the time like a zoo animal in order to be called charismatic, it's the same with every sport really.
On May 22 2013 19:38 thepuppyassassin wrote: The lack of emotion after such a close game is the reason RoRo has only 400 twitter followers.
Indeed. Stephano has thousands of followers and he always looks so excited and emotional after important victories.
Good one! He has personality. Roro doesn't, which is what I was suggesting.
I think you are just missing on his personality because you don't speak his language and thus can't catch the nuances in interviews, really. That goes for all Koreans, who are no less or more open than foreigners when you compare what they are actually saying and how they are acting. (In fact, Koreans smack-talk very often, more than foreigners, it seems to me.)
On May 22 2013 19:38 thepuppyassassin wrote: The lack of emotion after such a close game is the reason RoRo has only 400 twitter followers.
Indeed. Stephano has thousands of followers and he always looks so excited and emotional after important victories.
Good one! He has personality. Roro doesn't, which is what I was suggesting.
how do you know?
drop it mate, being a good sportsman means having no personality these days. you gotta cry and yell all the time like a zoo animal in order to be called charismatic, it's the same with every sport really.
yeah.. I just read in the Guardian the other day that Idra is a genius and one of the best zergs in sc2.
I think if there's one thing we can say confidently about HotS compared to Wings It's that Zerg is no longer a passive race, no more rushing to hive and hiding behind spines. In most ZvT's the Zerg is the one doing the first attack.
Kangho spawns in the top right Bomber spawns in the bottom right
0:00-4:00min Hatchery First for Kangho CC first on the high ground for Bomber
Rax to complete the wall for Bomber Extractor, then Pool for Kangho
4:00-6:00min quick third CC on the high ground for Bomber Refinery for Bomber
Speed started for Kangho Bomber walls off his natural with 3 Barracks, starts a Tech Lab at his first Rax
6:00-8:00min Bunker behind the Barracks wall Stim and 2nd Refinery started for Bomber
Lair and 3 more Extractors for Kangho 3rd base and Baneling Nest for Kangho
2 E-Bays and Factory started for Bomber, also 2 more Refineries Baneling Speed and a bunch of Lings started for Kangho
8:00-10:00min No tech for Kangho, lots of Lings and Banelings in production Kangho started 2 Evo Chambers but canceled them after Bomber saw them with a scan
34 Banelings in production Siege Tank production started for Bomber
Bomber takes his third base and sieges 1 Tank at the high ground Kangho attacks with all his Lings and Banelings and takes out almost all the Marines at the low ground
10:00-12:00min Kangho goes into the main, Depot is not raised in time Kangho takes out the Tank on the high ground, another Tank pops out right in time to be immediately surrounded by Lings as well
Kangho reinforces with more Lings and Banes, kills SCVs at the third, natural and in the main Bomber is forced to leave the game
On May 22 2013 19:38 thepuppyassassin wrote: The lack of emotion after such a close game is the reason RoRo has only 400 twitter followers.
Indeed. Stephano has thousands of followers and he always looks so excited and emotional after important victories.
Good one! He has personality. Roro doesn't, which is what I was suggesting.
I think you are just missing on his personality because you don't speak his language and thus can't catch the nuances in interviews, really. That goes for all Koreans, who are no less or more open than foreigners when you compare what they are actually saying and how they are acting. (In fact, Koreans smack-talk very often, more than foreigners, it seems to me.)
Makes sense. I agree that a lack of personality is wrong. The problem is I feel he intentionally restrained emotion after his victory, as many Kespa players tend to do, which is so much less satisfying from a viewer's perspective. I as a spectator want that torrent of emotion generated within the game to reflected on the face's of the players. I keep thinking back to a hunching double fist pump Flash did in proleague after an all kill. We need more of that.
Kangho spawns in the top right Bomber spawns in the bottom left
0:00-4:00min Hatchery first for Kangho CC first on the high ground for Bomber, Rax to complete the wall
Extractor for Kangho, then Spawning Pool Refinery for Bomber
4:00-6:00min Factory started for Bomber 2 Queens started for Kangho
Bomber takes his natural Kangho gets quite some Gas but no Ling-Speed
third base started for Kangho third CC started for Bomber
6:00-8:00min late Ling-Speed started for Kangho, takes 3 more Extractors Hellion-production started for Bomber
2nd Gas, 2 E-Bays, Stim in production for Bomber 4 Hellions get into the main base!
14 Drones killed by Bomber
8:00-10:00min 4 more Hellions are able to kill 2 Drones at the third base and try to get into the natural once again Starport, Tank, Armory and more Rax started for Bomber
Lair, +1 melee and armor and Baneling Nest started for Kangho Bomber has the worker lead at the moment with 57 to 55
10:00-12:00min Bomber tries to take his third base but and Overlord spreads some Creep to delay it Marines, Medivacs and Tanks in production for Bomber
Kangho starts his Spire and +2 melee and armor and burrow research Bomber starts his own 2-2 upgrades
Kangho spawns in the top right Bomber spawns in the bottom left
0:00-4:00min Hatchery first for Kangho CC first on the high ground for Bomber, Rax to complete the wall
Extractor for Kangho, then Spawning Pool Refinery for Bomber
4:00-6:00min Factory started for Bomber 2 Queens started for Kangho
Bomber takes his natural Kangho gets quite some Gas but no Ling-Speed
third base started for Kangho third CC started for Bomber
6:00-8:00min late Ling-Speed started for Kangho, takes 3 more Extractors Hellion-production started for Bomber
2nd Gas, 2 E-Bays, Stim in production for Bomber 4 Hellions get into the main base!
14 Drones killed by Bomber
8:00-10:00min 4 more Hellions are able to kill 2 Drones at the third base and try to get into the natural once again Starport, Tank, Armory and more Rax started for Bomber
Lair, +1 melee and armor and Baneling Nest started for Kangho Bomber has the worker lead at the moment with 57 to 55
10:00-12:00min Bomber tries to take his third base but and Overlord spreads some Creep to delay it Marines, Medivacs and Tanks in production for Bomber
Kangho starts his Spire and +2 melee and armor and burrow research Bomber starts his own 2-2 upgrades
12:00-14:00min Bomber tries to drop at the third of Kangho with a single Medivac full of Marines but Kangho denies it with Lings 10 Mutalisks in production
Drilling Claws upgrade researching, Bomber starts adding Widow Mines after 4 Siege Tanks Kangho takes his 4th base
14:00-16:00min Bomber takes a 20 supply lead just by macroing up Triple widow Mine production by Bomber now
Kangho sets up some Baneling landmines Bomber takes out the middle rocks
Mutalisks lure the Marines into a Baneling landmine and quite a lot of Marines die Lings runby into the natural and are able to kill quite some SCVs
Kangho engages Bomber's army in the middle of the map, 12 Mines burrow just in time and both armys explode Oo
Kangho spawns in the top right Bomber spawns in the bottom left
0:00-4:00min Hatchery first for Kangho CC first on the high ground for Bomber, Rax to complete the wall
Extractor for Kangho, then Spawning Pool Refinery for Bomber
4:00-6:00min Factory started for Bomber 2 Queens started for Kangho
Bomber takes his natural Kangho gets quite some Gas but no Ling-Speed
third base started for Kangho third CC started for Bomber
6:00-8:00min late Ling-Speed started for Kangho, takes 3 more Extractors Hellion-production started for Bomber
2nd Gas, 2 E-Bays, Stim in production for Bomber 4 Hellions get into the main base!
14 Drones killed by Bomber
8:00-10:00min 4 more Hellions are able to kill 2 Drones at the third base and try to get into the natural once again Starport, Tank, Armory and more Rax started for Bomber
Lair, +1 melee and armor and Baneling Nest started for Kangho Bomber has the worker lead at the moment with 57 to 55
10:00-12:00min Bomber tries to take his third base but and Overlord spreads some Creep to delay it Marines, Medivacs and Tanks in production for Bomber
Kangho starts his Spire and +2 melee and armor and burrow research Bomber starts his own 2-2 upgrades
12:00-14:00min Bomber tries to drop at the third of Kangho with a single Medivac full of Marines but Kangho denies it with Lings 10 Mutalisks in production
Drilling Claws upgrade researching, Bomber starts adding Widow Mines after 4 Siege Tanks Kangho takes his 4th base
14:00-16:00min Bomber takes a 20 supply lead just by macroing up Triple widow Mine production by Bomber now
Kangho sets up some Baneling landmines Bomber takes out the middle rocks
Mutalisks lure the Marines into a Baneling landmine and quite a lot of Marines die Lings runby into the natural and are able to kill quite some SCVs
Kangho engages Bomber's army in the middle of the map, 12 Mines burrow just in time and both armys explode Oo
16:00-18:00min Bomber takes his 4th and starts pushing towards Kangho with lots of Marines and Mines Kangho reinforces with lots of Mutalisks, Lings and Banes and is able to clean up Bomber's army
18:00-20:00min Hive started for Kangho, more Lings, Banes and Mutas in production Bomber drops the main of Kangho but gets denied by Lings and Mutas
Ultralisk Cavern started for Kangho Bomber tries to push creep back
I really don't know why anyone would rely on widow mine hits that are more or less random and also can be very well negated by a good Zerg. Bomber with marine/tank potentially would muta/ling/bane alive, just like in Wings of Liberty. Basically nothing changed , but no one is using the tanks anymore. I really cannot understand.
Kangho spawns in the top right Bomber spawns in the bottom left
0:00-4:00min Hatchery first for Kangho CC first on the high ground for Bomber, Rax to complete the wall
Extractor for Kangho, then Spawning Pool Refinery for Bomber
4:00-6:00min Factory started for Bomber 2 Queens started for Kangho
Bomber takes his natural Kangho gets quite some Gas but no Ling-Speed
third base started for Kangho third CC started for Bomber
6:00-8:00min late Ling-Speed started for Kangho, takes 3 more Extractors Hellion-production started for Bomber
2nd Gas, 2 E-Bays, Stim in production for Bomber 4 Hellions get into the main base!
14 Drones killed by Bomber
8:00-10:00min 4 more Hellions are able to kill 2 Drones at the third base and try to get into the natural once again Starport, Tank, Armory and more Rax started for Bomber
Lair, +1 melee and armor and Baneling Nest started for Kangho Bomber has the worker lead at the moment with 57 to 55
10:00-12:00min Bomber tries to take his third base but and Overlord spreads some Creep to delay it Marines, Medivacs and Tanks in production for Bomber
Kangho starts his Spire and +2 melee and armor and burrow research Bomber starts his own 2-2 upgrades
12:00-14:00min Bomber tries to drop at the third of Kangho with a single Medivac full of Marines but Kangho denies it with Lings 10 Mutalisks in production
Drilling Claws upgrade researching, Bomber starts adding Widow Mines after 4 Siege Tanks Kangho takes his 4th base
14:00-16:00min Bomber takes a 20 supply lead just by macroing up Triple widow Mine production by Bomber now
Kangho sets up some Baneling landmines Bomber takes out the middle rocks
Mutalisks lure the Marines into a Baneling landmine and quite a lot of Marines die Lings runby into the natural and are able to kill quite some SCVs
Kangho engages Bomber's army in the middle of the map, 12 Mines burrow just in time and both armys explode Oo
16:00-18:00min Bomber takes his 4th and starts pushing towards Kangho with lots of Marines and Mines Kangho reinforces with lots of Mutalisks, Lings and Banes and is able to clean up Bomber's army
18:00-20:00min Hive started for Kangho, more Lings, Banes and Mutas in production Bomber drops the main of Kangho but gets denied by Lings and Mutas
Ultralisk Cavern started for Kangho Bomber tries to push creep back
20:00-22:00min Bomber pushes the bottom lane with marines, Marauders and Mines Kangho uses a lot of Lings, Banes and Mutas to clean up Bomber's push
3-3 upgrades and the first few Ultralisks are in production for Kangho Bomber starts Raven production and the Energy upgrade for them
Kangho tries to take the 5th base but Bomber denies it with some Marines and Marauders
22:00-24:00min Bomber pushes onto creep once again drop into the main gets killed off by Mutas and Ultralisks
Bomber pushes towards Kangho's 4th but Kangho has lots of Ultralisks and Banelings in position 5th base of Bomber gets denied by Creep Spread of 3 Overlords
Kangho spawns in the top right Bomber spawns in the bottom left
0:00-4:00min Hatchery first for Kangho CC first on the high ground for Bomber, Rax to complete the wall
Extractor for Kangho, then Spawning Pool Refinery for Bomber
4:00-6:00min Factory started for Bomber 2 Queens started for Kangho
Bomber takes his natural Kangho gets quite some Gas but no Ling-Speed
third base started for Kangho third CC started for Bomber
6:00-8:00min late Ling-Speed started for Kangho, takes 3 more Extractors Hellion-production started for Bomber
2nd Gas, 2 E-Bays, Stim in production for Bomber 4 Hellions get into the main base!
14 Drones killed by Bomber
8:00-10:00min 4 more Hellions are able to kill 2 Drones at the third base and try to get into the natural once again Starport, Tank, Armory and more Rax started for Bomber
Lair, +1 melee and armor and Baneling Nest started for Kangho Bomber has the worker lead at the moment with 57 to 55
10:00-12:00min Bomber tries to take his third base but and Overlord spreads some Creep to delay it Marines, Medivacs and Tanks in production for Bomber
Kangho starts his Spire and +2 melee and armor and burrow research Bomber starts his own 2-2 upgrades
12:00-14:00min Bomber tries to drop at the third of Kangho with a single Medivac full of Marines but Kangho denies it with Lings 10 Mutalisks in production
Drilling Claws upgrade researching, Bomber starts adding Widow Mines after 4 Siege Tanks Kangho takes his 4th base
14:00-16:00min Bomber takes a 20 supply lead just by macroing up Triple widow Mine production by Bomber now
Kangho sets up some Baneling landmines Bomber takes out the middle rocks
Mutalisks lure the Marines into a Baneling landmine and quite a lot of Marines die Lings runby into the natural and are able to kill quite some SCVs
Kangho engages Bomber's army in the middle of the map, 12 Mines burrow just in time and both armys explode Oo
16:00-18:00min Bomber takes his 4th and starts pushing towards Kangho with lots of Marines and Mines Kangho reinforces with lots of Mutalisks, Lings and Banes and is able to clean up Bomber's army
18:00-20:00min Hive started for Kangho, more Lings, Banes and Mutas in production Bomber drops the main of Kangho but gets denied by Lings and Mutas
Ultralisk Cavern started for Kangho Bomber tries to push creep back
20:00-22:00min Bomber pushes the bottom lane with marines, Marauders and Mines Kangho uses a lot of Lings, Banes and Mutas to clean up Bomber's push
3-3 upgrades and the first few Ultralisks are in production for Kangho Bomber starts Raven production and the Energy upgrade for them
Kangho tries to take the 5th base but Bomber denies it with some Marines and Marauders
22:00-24:00min Bomber pushes onto creep once again drop into the main gets killed off by Mutas and Ultralisks
Bomber pushes towards Kangho's 4th but Kangho has lots of Ultralisks and Banelings in position 5th base of Bomber gets denied by Creep Spread of 3 Overlords
24:00-26:00min Kangho starts adding Infestors Drop into the main and 4th of Kangho get cleaned up by Lings, Mutas and Ultras
Bomber reinforces with Marauders and Ravens Bomber finally takes his 5th base
Kangho re-takes his 5th base as well Kangho attacks the 5th of Bomber with his Mutalisks and kills a lot of SCVs
26:00-28:00min Greater Spire in production for Kangho Bomber starts pushing out once again
Bomber uses Seeker Missiles on his Medivac and boosts it towards Losira's army and is able to kill a bunch of Infestors with it Huge engagement, Kangho attacks into Bomber's army
Bomber's position is too good, Kangho has to back off Kangho reinforces with lots of Lings and Broodlords
On May 22 2013 20:18 letian wrote: Parting the great choker, I knew it.
You say this every match parting has ever played. It's just boring now you keep saying it, when parting wins you just pull out the bullshit "He'll do it next time" and when he loses you strut around going on about how you called it like a god.
Rely on mines early to midgame, have a bad time lategame because they have no transition. Good meta by Zergs 'mines OP, use them' because they don't want to face tanks ^_-
Kangho spawns in the top right Bomber spawns in the bottom left
0:00-4:00min Hatchery first for Kangho CC first on the high ground for Bomber, Rax to complete the wall
Extractor for Kangho, then Spawning Pool Refinery for Bomber
4:00-6:00min Factory started for Bomber 2 Queens started for Kangho
Bomber takes his natural Kangho gets quite some Gas but no Ling-Speed
third base started for Kangho third CC started for Bomber
6:00-8:00min late Ling-Speed started for Kangho, takes 3 more Extractors Hellion-production started for Bomber
2nd Gas, 2 E-Bays, Stim in production for Bomber 4 Hellions get into the main base!
14 Drones killed by Bomber
8:00-10:00min 4 more Hellions are able to kill 2 Drones at the third base and try to get into the natural once again Starport, Tank, Armory and more Rax started for Bomber
Lair, +1 melee and armor and Baneling Nest started for Kangho Bomber has the worker lead at the moment with 57 to 55
10:00-12:00min Bomber tries to take his third base but and Overlord spreads some Creep to delay it Marines, Medivacs and Tanks in production for Bomber
Kangho starts his Spire and +2 melee and armor and burrow research Bomber starts his own 2-2 upgrades
12:00-14:00min Bomber tries to drop at the third of Kangho with a single Medivac full of Marines but Kangho denies it with Lings 10 Mutalisks in production
Drilling Claws upgrade researching, Bomber starts adding Widow Mines after 4 Siege Tanks Kangho takes his 4th base
14:00-16:00min Bomber takes a 20 supply lead just by macroing up Triple widow Mine production by Bomber now
Kangho sets up some Baneling landmines Bomber takes out the middle rocks
Mutalisks lure the Marines into a Baneling landmine and quite a lot of Marines die Lings runby into the natural and are able to kill quite some SCVs
Kangho engages Bomber's army in the middle of the map, 12 Mines burrow just in time and both armys explode Oo
16:00-18:00min Bomber takes his 4th and starts pushing towards Kangho with lots of Marines and Mines Kangho reinforces with lots of Mutalisks, Lings and Banes and is able to clean up Bomber's army
18:00-20:00min Hive started for Kangho, more Lings, Banes and Mutas in production Bomber drops the main of Kangho but gets denied by Lings and Mutas
Ultralisk Cavern started for Kangho Bomber tries to push creep back
20:00-22:00min Bomber pushes the bottom lane with marines, Marauders and Mines Kangho uses a lot of Lings, Banes and Mutas to clean up Bomber's push
3-3 upgrades and the first few Ultralisks are in production for Kangho Bomber starts Raven production and the Energy upgrade for them
Kangho tries to take the 5th base but Bomber denies it with some Marines and Marauders
22:00-24:00min Bomber pushes onto creep once again drop into the main gets killed off by Mutas and Ultralisks
Bomber pushes towards Kangho's 4th but Kangho has lots of Ultralisks and Banelings in position 5th base of Bomber gets denied by Creep Spread of 3 Overlords
24:00-26:00min Kangho starts adding Infestors Drop into the main and 4th of Kangho get cleaned up by Lings, Mutas and Ultras
Bomber reinforces with Marauders and Ravens Bomber finally takes his 5th base
Kangho re-takes his 5th base as well Kangho attacks the 5th of Bomber with his Mutalisks and kills a lot of SCVs
26:00-28:00min Greater Spire in production for Kangho Bomber starts pushing out once again
Bomber uses Seeker Missiles on his Medivac and boosts it towards Losira's army and is able to kill a bunch of Infestors with it Huge engagement, Kangho attacks into Bomber's army
Bomber's position is too good, Kangho has to back off Kangho reinforces with lots of Lings and Broodlords
28:00-30:00min Bomber pushes towards Kangho's 5th again but Broodlords push him back Bomber starts Viking production
30:00-32:00min Kangho starts pushing the 4th of Bomber with his army of Broodlord-Infestor-Ultra-Muta-Baneling Bomber backs off into his natural and drops into the main and 4th of Kangho
Kangho kills the 4th of Bomber and backs off Both drops get denied
32:00-34:00min Bomber backs off even further, he know waits in his main Kangho doesn't care, he just walks into the main, up the ramp with all his Banelings and Ultralisks and takes out Bomber's army
Bomber leaves the game! KangHo takes the 2-0 lead in the series!
Did you see the part where Bomber loaded up 2 medivac with marauders to lure the mutas away so his vikings can start hitting the broodlords? Thats some tactical shit
Bomber needed about 6-7 macro orbitals. When he maxed he needed to commit to more orbitals so he could sac more scvs for more ravens. If he had say 10-12 ravens rather than 5 he would have been a lot better prepared against broodlords.
On May 22 2013 20:24 DidYuhim wrote: Bomber lost the game after killing 14 drones with 4 hellions? Am I seeing things?
Bomber just likes to be the bad boy who breaks hearts, I guess.
Erhm, the only thing you do by killing those drones, if you are opening greedy, is force any aggression to be more all inish, a 3 hatch zerg has no trouble reinforcing their mineral lines. I thought we already discussed this.
On May 22 2013 20:23 Arceus wrote: Ravens are totally not working. If only Bomber had a few mines to defend there
1. Dude he didnt have minerals but had alot of gas. 2. a raven can do 300 damage for only 2 supply. your mine wont get so much damage. 3. The creep was insane, raven good. 4. Bombervac can do 1000 damage. At MLG he won because of it!
On May 22 2013 20:16 HystericaLaughter wrote: 'Widow mines are good against Ultras because they ignore their armour'
Wut
Widow mines hit is like a "spell", so no armor limit its damages.
No i knew they ignored armour, but that doesn't stop them being terrible against ultras lol
4 widow mines oneshot an ultralisk lol, how is that terrible?
Well if you rely on AI, i don't believe they'll all target the same ultralisk if there's another target in range, i could be wrong, but it's a mechanism to avoid overkill.
On May 22 2013 20:18 letian wrote: Parting the great choker, I knew it.
You say this every match parting has ever played. It's just boring now you keep saying it, when parting wins you just pull out the bullshit "He'll do it next time" and when he loses you strut around going on about how you called it like a god.
On May 22 2013 20:16 HystericaLaughter wrote: 'Widow mines are good against Ultras because they ignore their armour'
Wut
Widow mines hit is like a "spell", so no armor limit its damages.
No i knew they ignored armour, but that doesn't stop them being terrible against ultras lol
4 widow mines oneshot an ultralisk lol, how is that terrible?
Takes 10 seconds to 'oneshot' it. Because only one mine can attack at a time
unless you micro your widow mines
No. A target can only be attacked by one widow mine at a time... you cannot manually target on a target that is already targetted. And even if you can, the mine cannot attack it as long as the other mine does target it. Otherwise a big minefield would slaughter ultras, which it does not.
On May 22 2013 20:16 HystericaLaughter wrote: 'Widow mines are good against Ultras because they ignore their armour'
Wut
Widow mines hit is like a "spell", so no armor limit its damages.
No i knew they ignored armour, but that doesn't stop them being terrible against ultras lol
4 widow mines oneshot an ultralisk lol, how is that terrible?
Well if you rely on AI, i don't believe they'll all target the same ultralisk if there's another target in range, i could be wrong, but it's a mechanism to avoid overkill.
Yeah that's correct, you can just select 4 mines and target with them, just like you would select a few marauders and single target an ultralisk, so widow mines are definately not terrible against ultralisk. I'd argue they are very cost effiecient (spelling ftw)
On May 22 2013 20:30 Ph4ZeD wrote: Really enjoyable Starcraft today, considering that these are the ro8 losers when yesterday's games in the ro4 were abysmal...
Its quite normal. Not every player kombination gives instant classic matches or shows the individual strenghts of each player. Gumiho vs Losira gave some of the best games in WoL but its not like that means they would simply slaughter their next round.
In the end you always can only play so good like your enemy is letting you.
On May 22 2013 20:16 HystericaLaughter wrote: 'Widow mines are good against Ultras because they ignore their armour'
Wut
Widow mines hit is like a "spell", so no armor limit its damages.
No i knew they ignored armour, but that doesn't stop them being terrible against ultras lol
4 widow mines oneshot an ultralisk lol, how is that terrible?
Takes 10 seconds to 'oneshot' it. Because only one mine can attack at a time
unless you micro your widow mines
No. A target can only be attacked by one widow mine at a time... you cannot manually target on a target that is already targetted. And even if you can, the mine cannot attack it as long as the other mine does target it. Otherwise a big minefield would slaughter ultras, which it does not.
You just right click on the target you want to kill, and all of the widow mines will change target to that ultra.
On May 22 2013 20:30 Ph4ZeD wrote: Really enjoyable Starcraft today, considering that these are the ro8 losers when yesterday's games in the ro4 were abysmal...
Its quite normal. Not every player kombination gives instant classic matches or shows the individual strenghts of each player. Gumiho vs Losira gave some of the best games in WoL but its not like that means they would simply slaughter their next round.
In the end you always can only play so good like your enemy is letting you.
Team kills can lead to some pretty awful series as well :/
On May 22 2013 20:16 HystericaLaughter wrote: 'Widow mines are good against Ultras because they ignore their armour'
Wut
Widow mines hit is like a "spell", so no armor limit its damages.
No i knew they ignored armour, but that doesn't stop them being terrible against ultras lol
4 widow mines oneshot an ultralisk lol, how is that terrible?
Takes 10 seconds to 'oneshot' it. Because only one mine can attack at a time
unless you micro your widow mines
No. A target can only be attacked by one widow mine at a time... you cannot manually target on a target that is already targetted. And even if you can, the mine cannot attack it as long as the other mine does target it. Otherwise a big minefield would slaughter ultras, which it does not.
You just right click on the target you want to kill, and all of the widow mines will change target to that ultra.
Yes, and not attack at the same time, but with delay. Sorry but I prefer 10 Tanks, 4 Thors to battle that.. but on the other hand, I don't get into such a position as Terran, because I don't rely on them and tank/marine dominates muta/ling/bane.
On May 22 2013 20:30 Ph4ZeD wrote: Really enjoyable Starcraft today, considering that these are the ro8 losers when yesterday's games in the ro4 were abysmal...
Its quite normal. Not every player kombination gives instant classic matches or shows the individual strenghts of each player. Gumiho vs Losira gave some of the best games in WoL but its not like that means they would simply slaughter their next round.
In the end you always can only play so good like your enemy is letting you.
Team kills can lead to some pretty awful series as well :/
On May 22 2013 20:30 Ph4ZeD wrote: Really enjoyable Starcraft today, considering that these are the ro8 losers when yesterday's games in the ro4 were abysmal...
Its quite normal. Not every player kombination gives instant classic matches or shows the individual strenghts of each player. Gumiho vs Losira gave some of the best games in WoL but its not like that means they would simply slaughter their next round.
In the end you always can only play so good like your enemy is letting you.
Team kills can lead to some pretty awful series as well :/
Thats true as well. They know each other so well that they try things that are not their playstyle at all sometimes and that will rarely look good.
Kangho spawns in the bottom right Bomber spawns in the top left
0:00-4:00min quick Gas and Pool for Kangho CC first for Bomber
Kangho tries to block the Rax of Bomber to delay the wall but Bomber gets the Rax down Refinery for Bomber
Roach Warren started for Kangho, the scouting Drone is still alive
4:00-6:00min Factory started for Bomber 7 Roaches in production for Kangho
3rd CC for Bomber, no scouting at all yet Roaches pop out and start walking cross map
Bomber builds a Bunker at his natural Tech Lab at the Rax, single Hellion production started
6:00-8:00min Roaches attack the natural of Bomber Bomber gets the depot wall up in time and pulls SCVs to repair the Bunker
For some reason Bomber lowered a Depot and let the Roaches in...... The Bunker falls, SCVs fall, Bomber tries to block the main ramp but Kangho pushes through
A single Widow Mine burrows but gets activated by a Roach Bomber tries to micro with 2 Marauders and his leftover SCVs but Kangho focuses the Marauders and then kills the SCVs
On May 22 2013 20:16 HystericaLaughter wrote: 'Widow mines are good against Ultras because they ignore their armour'
Wut
Widow mines hit is like a "spell", so no armor limit its damages.
No i knew they ignored armour, but that doesn't stop them being terrible against ultras lol
4 widow mines oneshot an ultralisk lol, how is that terrible?
Takes 10 seconds to 'oneshot' it. Because only one mine can attack at a time
unless you micro your widow mines
No. A target can only be attacked by one widow mine at a time... you cannot manually target on a target that is already targetted. And even if you can, the mine cannot attack it as long as the other mine does target it. Otherwise a big minefield would slaughter ultras, which it does not.
You just right click on the target you want to kill, and all of the widow mines will change target to that ultra.
Yes, and not attack at the same time, but with delay. Sorry but I prefer 10 Tanks, 4 Thors to battle that.. but on the other hand, I don't get into such a position as Terran, because I don't rely on them and tank/marine dominates muta/ling/bane.
They all will attack at the same time and oneshot the ultra if you target the same ultra with all of them at the same time. There might be other compositions that are better against ultras, but saying that 300/100 worth of units who oneshot a 300/200 unit is terrible is just wrong.
On May 22 2013 20:39 opterown wrote: top 6 WCS KR has 4 zergs
what now? ;D
Time for zergs to balance whine, there is a P and T in the top 5. You know, no balance changes have been made and WM, hellbats, tempest/storm and msc timings are imba.
On May 22 2013 20:40 edgeOut wrote: 4 zergs, 1 protoss, 1 terran.
That's because not enough terrans counter ultralisks with widow mines. The only terran who goes above the 10 Widow mine unit count is Innovation, hence why he is the only terran left.
On May 22 2013 20:40 Black Gun wrote: typical bomber. he either plays like the best or like the worst player in the world. today, the bad bomber showed up...
indeed.. MKP does that too. They balance on the thin red line between genius plays and a insanity
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
"Phew oh man that was a clutch hold but I have a marauder and bunker and three command centers, there's no way I can lose this noOH GOD I LET THE DEPOT DOWN WELP I'M DEAD"
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
mvp curse is the strongest curse. Now lucifron will fall apart to forGG and dissappear to challenger league on next season.
On May 22 2013 20:40 Black Gun wrote: typical bomber. he either plays like the best or like the worst player in the world. today, the bad bomber showed up...
indeed.. MKP does that too. They balance on the thin red line between genius plays and a insanity
MKP doesn't succeed as well as being Bomber than Bomber himself.
On May 22 2013 20:43 Paraietta wrote: "Phew oh man that was a clutch hold but I have a marauder and bunker and three command centers, there's no way I can lose this noOH GOD I LET THE DEPOT DOWN WELP I'M DEAD"
Lets see how far I can push that... unload bunker.. STILL ALIVE! Well lets lower the depot! FUCK!
On May 22 2013 20:40 PviLLe3 wrote: how come they played out these matches? i dont recall them doing it in the past, looking at the site 5/6/7/8 are same money and WCS points.
It's explained in the OP, winner of these matches goes to the WCS Season Finals which is a really big deal.
On May 22 2013 20:40 PviLLe3 wrote: how come they played out these matches? i dont recall them doing it in the past, looking at the site 5/6/7/8 are same money and WCS points.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
As soon as you throw bomber out of his comfort zone he is completly lost. The games vs symbol were already hard to watch, but that game was even worse.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Then some day IM will recruit someone named Obiwan and another named Luke
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
On May 22 2013 20:43 Paraietta wrote: "Phew oh man that was a clutch hold but I have a marauder and bunker and three command centers, there's no way I can lose this noOH GOD I LET THE DEPOT DOWN WELP I'M DEAD"
Lets see how far I can push that... unload bunker.. STILL ALIVE! Well lets lower the depot! FUCK!
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Then some day IM will recruit someone named Obiwan and another named Luke
IMsnute, snute switches to terran and brings balance to SC2.
I still can't quite believe Losira is doing this well, out of all the players available he's the banner-carrying LG-IM player all of a sudden, when going into this season Squirtle and YoDa looked really really powerful. I can't complain though, I've missed the magical feline. :p
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
You can't say no to that face.
Not sure if this is representative. When he's broadcasted, I have not seen Mvp smile like this very often actually. It's not that he doesn't show any emotion at all but he doesn't show more than the average at the very least.
On May 22 2013 20:55 Mefano wrote: Zerg clearly is underpowered represented by how they never seem to win tournaments.
But seriously! Both Roro and Kangho owned the day I must say!
Are you sarcastic? If not latest Code S was won by RorO and Dreamhack Open was won by Leenock. We had a MLG somewhere around release which Life won.
I thought the "But seriously" covered that! Ofcourse I was sarcastic xD 4/6 major HotS tournaments won by zerg! My congratulations to Roro and Kangho werent sarcastic though, they played really well.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
You can't say no to that face.
Not sure if this is representative. When he's broadcasted, I have not seen Mvp smile like this very often actually. It's not that he doesn't show any emotion at all but he doesn't show more than the average at the very least.
Once he's in the booth or behind a pc he shows very little emotion, but outside he has shown to be very funny. I remember seeing footage how Mvp was making jokes about how wealthy he was and how he was eating caviar for breakfast, really funny guy.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
You can't say no to that face.
Not sure if this is representative. When he's broadcasted, I have not seen Mvp smile like this very often actually. It's not that he doesn't show any emotion at all but he doesn't show more than the average at the very least.
Once he's in the booth or behind a pc he shows very little emotion, but outside he has shown to be very funny. I remember seeing footage how Mvp was making jokes about how wealthy he was and how he was eating caviar for breakfast, really funny guy.
Anything to do with caviar eating a joke, dear god the sheer notion of that stuff is foul ><;
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
You can't say no to that face.
Not sure if this is representative. When he's broadcasted, I have not seen Mvp smile like this very often actually. It's not that he doesn't show any emotion at all but he doesn't show more than the average at the very least.
Most of MVP's awarding ceremony pics have him with a big smile. Flash, even when he wins a championship, still can't seem to display a big and wide smile. Because once he does, then the world can end.
On May 22 2013 20:47 Kasaraki wrote: I still can't quite believe Losira is doing this well, out of all the players available he's the banner-carrying LG-IM player all of a sudden, when going into this season Squirtle and YoDa looked really really powerful. I can't complain though, I've missed the magical feline. :p
yeah, I honestly didn't understand all the hype for losira. But his ZvT looked pretty great despite bomber making a lot of mistakes.
On May 23 2013 01:12 Zenbrez wrote: Did Losira roach allin everygame?
Game 2 was a long macro game where Bomber had a huge lead early on with some Hellions that he managed to get into Losira's base but Losira played really well and managed to come back. Game 1 and 3 were Roach all ins.
On May 22 2013 20:41 Dodgin wrote: Losira was definitely the better player today, I'm really happy for him to find success again after such a long period of mediocrity.
If you had asked me to predict which LG-IM player would advance to the season finals from WCS Korea before this season I would not have said Losira.
I would have said yoda ez. Now I go cry.
One day Yoda will just do everything Mvp does but without broken body parts, one day.
Maybe everything except for capture out hearts<3
I love Innovation and Flash, but Mvp is just a sweetheart.
You can't say no to that face.
Not sure if this is representative. When he's broadcasted, I have not seen Mvp smile like this very often actually. It's not that he doesn't show any emotion at all but he doesn't show more than the average at the very least.
Most of the time when he wins a series he has a big smile on afterwards from what I remember
On May 23 2013 01:12 Zenbrez wrote: Did Losira roach allin everygame?
Game 2 was a long macro game where Bomber had a huge lead early on with some Hellions that he managed to get into Losira's base but Losira played really well and managed to come back. Game 1 and 3 were Roach all ins.
game 1 was a ling/bane all-in, but close enough i suppose.
On May 23 2013 09:48 ffadicted wrote: How come they don't play a regular 4 man group for these matches? Wouldn't that make more sense/be more fair?
They only needed to differentiate 5/6th and 7/8th so this is the simplest format. If they had a full group, it would take longer and give them information they don't need (separate 5th and 6th, 7th and 8th).
What is the reason for liking bomber? When I watch his games, there's nothing in there that really makes me feel excited. Win or lose, he feels so cookie-cutter terran to me. I watch his games because I generally find games with terran involved more exciting than ZvZvPvP. But never really cared for his success simply because I want to watch more of his games.
On May 23 2013 09:48 ffadicted wrote: How come they don't play a regular 4 man group for these matches? Wouldn't that make more sense/be more fair?
They only needed to differentiate 5/6th and 7/8th so this is the simplest format. If they had a full group, it would take longer and give them information they don't need (separate 5th and 6th, 7th and 8th).
I was wondering the same, but it seems like in the Round of 8 and beyond, you must win the match set before you. Sure, there is some luck involved with what draw you get.
On May 23 2013 10:42 baubo wrote: What is the reason for liking bomber? When I watch his games, there's nothing in there that really makes me feel excited. Win or lose, he feels so cookie-cutter terran to me. I watch his games because I generally find games with terran involved more exciting than ZvZvPvP. But never really cared for his success simply because I want to watch more of his games.
Is there a story here that I'm not aware of?
He was looking really really good during 2011, when he won Code A. People were hyping him to win GSL for sure. He's a guy who has flashes of brilliance. Of course, he also has moments of mediocrity and mental collapse, so overall he averages out to be an average, possibly below average Korean Terran.
Plus, he does have a bit of a style of dancing units and manner MULEs, which I guess some find entertaining or endearing.
I pity Bomber fans. They have to put up with so much disappointment and heartbreak. Bomber could have been as successful of Mvp had been in late 2011, but he choked.
On May 23 2013 09:48 ffadicted wrote: How come they don't play a regular 4 man group for these matches? Wouldn't that make more sense/be more fair?
They only needed to differentiate 5/6th and 7/8th so this is the simplest format. If they had a full group, it would take longer and give them information they don't need (separate 5th and 6th, 7th and 8th).
Hmmm, not really. With a group, you could end up with Parting/Roro or Bomber/KangHo both advancing. IMO Parting and Roro are the clear 2 best out of the 4, it's a shame they played one another
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