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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 17 2013 21:01 GMT
#1581
Dimaga can afford AN ultralisk.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Dudasc
Profile Joined October 2012
Brazil286 Posts
May 17 2013 21:01 GMT
#1582
On May 18 2013 05:59 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 05:57 Dudasc wrote:
this is the problem with hellbats.. dimaga defended all of them but he wasnt still in a good position afterwards

What do hellbats have to do with Dimaga deciding to play roach/hydra against bio/tank?


not talking about his position now, but mainly about the 11-12 mins mark.. terran can still get his free third with no need to spend anything on defenses. They were even about the same supply

only thing that dimaga had was better upgrades, but good upgrades when you muste have 20 roaches doesnt really matter
Fody03
Profile Joined July 2012
Italy310 Posts
May 17 2013 21:01 GMT
#1583
On May 18 2013 06:00 crappen wrote:
Is static spines so bad to deploy to protect your fourth? Dimaga has the minerals it seems.




this.3k minerals for about 10 minutes now,still no static defense
Terrans
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9332 Posts
May 17 2013 21:02 GMT
#1584
3/3 marines vs 0/3 zerglings look funny
You're now breathing manually
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
May 17 2013 21:02 GMT
#1585
On May 18 2013 05:57 Dudasc wrote:
this is the problem with hellbats.. dimaga defended all of them but he wasnt still in a good position afterwards


Yeah, you either invest a lot in defense and doesn't take direct damage from them, but still take a lot of indirect damage and end up behind. Or you don't build enough defense and pretty much just die.
hundred thousand krouner
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 17 2013 21:02 GMT
#1586
Dimaga deals with drop and movement play so badly.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
May 17 2013 21:04 GMT
#1587
Dimaga is playing this so badly. Builds the base and then leaves it to die.
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
May 17 2013 21:04 GMT
#1588
One more game of this and bye bye Dimaga.
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 17 2013 21:05 GMT
#1589
The bio from the behind as well...
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 21:07:26
May 17 2013 21:05 GMT
#1590
Ok I don't think zergs will play that map again Thorzain. The spoon is to strong!

On May 18 2013 06:02 Yaotzin wrote:
Dimaga deals with drop and movement play so badly.


Takes alot of APM and Dimaga not the youngest pro gamer any more. Thorzain vs Stephano showed Stephano spike at 500. You have to be incredible fast as a zerg to deal with drops and the terran main army
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
May 17 2013 21:06 GMT
#1591
Roach/Hydra, Terran can just camp you like that, and you can't harass him for it. You have to just engage head-on with a weaker comp. Plays into ThorZain's playstyle too well.
Big water
Dudasc
Profile Joined October 2012
Brazil286 Posts
May 17 2013 21:06 GMT
#1592
On May 18 2013 06:02 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 05:57 Dudasc wrote:
this is the problem with hellbats.. dimaga defended all of them but he wasnt still in a good position afterwards


Yeah, you either invest a lot in defense and doesn't take direct damage from them, but still take a lot of indirect damage and end up behind. Or you don't build enough defense and pretty much just die.


exactly...
Yuke
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany30 Posts
May 17 2013 21:07 GMT
#1593
Roach/Hydra only works well against mech :/ I think TvZ is Dimagas worst matchup at the moment.
I wish there would be Stephano vs. Dimaga just for fun at the end.
Slimijs
Profile Joined December 2010
Latvia65 Posts
May 17 2013 21:07 GMT
#1594
Thorzain needs to take his 4th in much better positions. He would have won the first and third game vs Stephano and the first game vs Dimage ezpz if he had a stable economy. Don't know why he's making it so hard on himself.
VIVA LA FRANCE!
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
May 17 2013 21:07 GMT
#1595
Poll: Recommend DIMAGA vs Thorzain game 1 ?

No (6)
 
46%

If you have time (4)
 
31%

Yes (3)
 
23%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend DIMAGA vs Thorzain game 1 ?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
May 17 2013 21:08 GMT
#1596
hahaha these DIMAGA cheers. His name just rolls off the tongue when you're screaming xD
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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 17 2013 21:08 GMT
#1597
On May 18 2013 06:06 Dudasc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 06:02 Zheryn wrote:
On May 18 2013 05:57 Dudasc wrote:
this is the problem with hellbats.. dimaga defended all of them but he wasnt still in a good position afterwards


Yeah, you either invest a lot in defense and doesn't take direct damage from them, but still take a lot of indirect damage and end up behind. Or you don't build enough defense and pretty much just die.


exactly...


Yeps same thing happen when Thorzain played against Stephano. Stephano spend to much to protect himself against the drops. Its really hard for the zergs to deal with this in a good way
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
May 17 2013 21:08 GMT
#1598
On May 18 2013 06:05 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ok I don't think zergs will play that map again Thorzain. The spoon is to strong!

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 06:02 Yaotzin wrote:
Dimaga deals with drop and movement play so badly.


Takes alot of APM and Dimaga not the youngest pro gamer any more. Thorzain vs Stephano showed Stephano spike at 500. You have to be incredible fast as a zerg to deal with drops and the terran main army

I know it's hard, I'm useless at it myself, but he did almost nothing to stop it. Over and over he'd build a hatch and it would die with nothing to defend it.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
May 17 2013 21:09 GMT
#1599
got to agree with the casting, roach hydralisk is totallly crap. Don't get why dimage is using it at all.. He is a great ling player who usually prefers it over roaches in ZvP...

Roachhydra is even worse than in WoL.. the only reason it seems to work now is because some players stubbornly still make mines against it or die against roach timings relying on mines/hellbats etc. too much. Thorzain has shown multiple times now he is fine switching to tanks in which case roach hydra just completely stinks.. Do an aggressive timing with it or just return to lings... His vT now compared to that against MVP before in Ro32 is so odd..
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
May 17 2013 21:10 GMT
#1600
On May 18 2013 06:09 Markwerf wrote:
got to agree with the casting, roach hydralisk is totallly crap. Don't get why dimage is using it at all.. He is a great ling player who usually prefers it over roaches in ZvP...

Roachhydra is even worse than in WoL.. the only reason it seems to work now is because some players stubbornly still make mines against it or die against roach timings relying on mines/hellbats etc. too much. Thorzain has shown multiple times now he is fine switching to tanks in which case roach hydra just completely stinks.. Do an aggressive timing with it or just return to lings... His vT now compared to that against MVP before in Ro32 is so odd..

Roach/Hydra works well pre-tanks, but Dimaga just stuck with it for way too long.
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