EPT[WCS EU] RO16 Group D Premier Season 1 2013 - Page 80
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Dudasc
Brazil286 Posts
On May 18 2013 05:59 forsooth wrote: What do hellbats have to do with Dimaga deciding to play roach/hydra against bio/tank? not talking about his position now, but mainly about the 11-12 mins mark.. terran can still get his free third with no need to spend anything on defenses. They were even about the same supply only thing that dimaga had was better upgrades, but good upgrades when you muste have 20 roaches doesnt really matter | ||
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Fody03
Italy310 Posts
On May 18 2013 06:00 crappen wrote: Is static spines so bad to deploy to protect your fourth? Dimaga has the minerals it seems. this.3k minerals for about 10 minutes now,still no static defense | ||
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Sent.
Poland9245 Posts
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
On May 18 2013 05:57 Dudasc wrote: this is the problem with hellbats.. dimaga defended all of them but he wasnt still in a good position afterwards Yeah, you either invest a lot in defense and doesn't take direct damage from them, but still take a lot of indirect damage and end up behind. Or you don't build enough defense and pretty much just die. | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Benjamin99
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On May 18 2013 06:02 Yaotzin wrote: Dimaga deals with drop and movement play so badly. Takes alot of APM and Dimaga not the youngest pro gamer any more. Thorzain vs Stephano showed Stephano spike at 500. You have to be incredible fast as a zerg to deal with drops and the terran main army | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
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Dudasc
Brazil286 Posts
On May 18 2013 06:02 Zheryn wrote: Yeah, you either invest a lot in defense and doesn't take direct damage from them, but still take a lot of indirect damage and end up behind. Or you don't build enough defense and pretty much just die. exactly... | ||
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Yuke
Germany30 Posts
I wish there would be Stephano vs. Dimaga just for fun at the end. | ||
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Slimijs
Latvia65 Posts
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Denar
France1633 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Benjamin99
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Yeps same thing happen when Thorzain played against Stephano. Stephano spend to much to protect himself against the drops. Its really hard for the zergs to deal with this in a good way | ||
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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On May 18 2013 06:05 Benjamin99 wrote: Ok I don't think zergs will play that map again Thorzain. The spoon is to strong! Takes alot of APM and Dimaga not the youngest pro gamer any more. Thorzain vs Stephano showed Stephano spike at 500. You have to be incredible fast as a zerg to deal with drops and the terran main army I know it's hard, I'm useless at it myself, but he did almost nothing to stop it. Over and over he'd build a hatch and it would die with nothing to defend it. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
Roachhydra is even worse than in WoL.. the only reason it seems to work now is because some players stubbornly still make mines against it or die against roach timings relying on mines/hellbats etc. too much. Thorzain has shown multiple times now he is fine switching to tanks in which case roach hydra just completely stinks.. Do an aggressive timing with it or just return to lings... His vT now compared to that against MVP before in Ro32 is so odd.. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On May 18 2013 06:09 Markwerf wrote: got to agree with the casting, roach hydralisk is totallly crap. Don't get why dimage is using it at all.. He is a great ling player who usually prefers it over roaches in ZvP... Roachhydra is even worse than in WoL.. the only reason it seems to work now is because some players stubbornly still make mines against it or die against roach timings relying on mines/hellbats etc. too much. Thorzain has shown multiple times now he is fine switching to tanks in which case roach hydra just completely stinks.. Do an aggressive timing with it or just return to lings... His vT now compared to that against MVP before in Ro32 is so odd.. Roach/Hydra works well pre-tanks, but Dimaga just stuck with it for way too long. | ||
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