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xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
April 30 2013 12:01 GMT
#1321
On April 30 2013 20:47 Godwrath wrote:
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On April 30 2013 20:43 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On April 30 2013 20:40 Godwrath wrote:
On April 30 2013 20:39 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On April 30 2013 20:37 Godwrath wrote:
On April 30 2013 20:35 xN.07)MaK wrote:
On April 30 2013 20:32 TheDwf wrote:
On April 30 2013 20:29 xN.07)MaK wrote:
Wow Taeja, so disapointed. He was ahead after the maphack, just to blow it when he should have played defensive.

Deserved loss

He was not ahead.


At pro-level, if you scout the proxy tech tree and don't overreact, you are ahead. Especially with 3 orbitals.


You are pretty much triggering an all in with that kind of stuff.

Taeja didn't prepare for it. Also he was pretty slow at getting his upgrades and medivacs and unit count, just to fit that 3rd CC in.


I think 3 bunks, not getting slaughtered in the middle and stim, was well enough to hold the natural.


Yep, but even if that happened he would still not have a third while sOs was saturating his. He was not behind.


Not have a 3rd for a short period of time, the time it takes to medivacs to come out and have a decent army. With no colossus or templar, P deathball melts to bio, so that's why that is a timing. You hold, and just after that you take your 3rd. Even if the 3rd is delayed you go into the mid-game ahead.


If you get a third behind the protoss, you are actually behind. The problem was Taeja going for a full econ build after triggering an all in. He did not have enough map presence to deny protoss third, neither to have one of his own (hell, he couldn't even have his natural). You are saying sOs was behind because of the oracle all in not happening, that's simply not true. He didn't build the oracles, but he got sentries and three bases when taeja just got his natural.

If anyone was behind that game, was taeja.


I still think had he not died in the middle he was not behind at all.
First, the fact that you proxy and cancel is enough to put you behind if your opponent doesn't overreact to the fake oracle. It's just a waste.
Second, if he holds that attack, yeah, the third is delayed, but 3 fast orbitals mean that once you move to your third is basically saturated. Plus the bio ball, plus the medivacs. Until colossus and templars come into play you have a ton of time stop any attack or to attack yourself. IMO, the fact that your opponent warps in 2 rounds of units and doesn't kill you (or do sufficient damage) is enough to put you economically ahead. You should be 10+ workers ahead, plus a decent army to defend yourself without bunkers.
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 30 2013 12:01 GMT
#1322
On April 30 2013 21:00 DifuntO wrote:
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On April 30 2013 20:58 LeeDawg wrote:
shine looks so shaky. when he's not going all-in he seems to struggle


That's because he's not code s level player.


He is playing in Code S right now, no? :p
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 30 2013 12:01 GMT
#1323
On April 30 2013 20:59 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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On April 30 2013 20:58 Laryleprakon wrote:
Nice to see a mech TvZ win even tho after the start he could have gone bio and easily won I'm sure.

One more game Bomber!

It sucks that mech has to be carried by good widowmine / hellbat drops

edit: grammar



Well, mech is turtling at the start, so you have to do something to stop the zerg economy a bit
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17685 Posts
April 30 2013 12:02 GMT
#1324
I feel like the volume on the gom stream is lower than it used to be
"Expert" mods4ever.com
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 30 2013 12:02 GMT
#1325
On April 30 2013 21:01 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 21:00 DifuntO wrote:
On April 30 2013 20:58 LeeDawg wrote:
shine looks so shaky. when he's not going all-in he seems to struggle


That's because he's not code s level player.


He is playing in Code S right now, no? :p


Not for much longer
All I do is Stim.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
April 30 2013 12:03 GMT
#1326
Wtf is Shine doing? Looks completely overwhelmed by the occasion tonight.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
April 30 2013 12:03 GMT
#1327
Losing that early OL is soo painful. >_<
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 30 2013 12:03 GMT
#1328
Drope dead Shine
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
April 30 2013 12:03 GMT
#1329
On April 30 2013 21:02 DifuntO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2013 21:01 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On April 30 2013 21:00 DifuntO wrote:
On April 30 2013 20:58 LeeDawg wrote:
shine looks so shaky. when he's not going all-in he seems to struggle


That's because he's not code s level player.


He is playing in Code S right now, no? :p


Not for much longer

He's just as much of a Code S player as Suhoshin was. Feel free to interpret that however you want :D
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
April 30 2013 12:04 GMT
#1330
LOL, shine either forgot ling speed or burrow

Look at his gas
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 30 2013 12:04 GMT
#1331
It's nice to see Bomber not play super greedy vs Shine
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 30 2013 12:04 GMT
#1332
OGN stream dead? :/
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3073 Posts
April 30 2013 12:05 GMT
#1333
rofl shine
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
April 30 2013 12:06 GMT
#1334
failed pressure, bomber way ahead economically now
hell is other people
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
April 30 2013 12:06 GMT
#1335
GomTV viewers increasing :DD
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
April 30 2013 12:06 GMT
#1336
This is already over, heh.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-30 12:07:08
April 30 2013 12:06 GMT
#1337
Bomber has this. I feel it. (both games)
The Bomber boy
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
April 30 2013 12:07 GMT
#1338
Shine has already lost
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Exoteric
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2330 Posts
April 30 2013 12:07 GMT
#1339
lmao and shine keeps making roaches
hell is other people
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
April 30 2013 12:07 GMT
#1340
Shine loves his two bases, doesn´t he?
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