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God damn, this game is a stagnant snorefest after a game like that
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On April 27 2013 13:06 Wertheron wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 13:02 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:55 Wertheron wrote:
It's the first time i watch SPL so late (it's 6 am here in France) we have to make a congratulation thread on all the foreigners viewers, when european viewers stop, amercians (US,Canadian, Brazilian and the rest of South America) take over, we are "sc2 crazy"!!! Why? A lot of us have been watching for years at even worse hours. Right now, the time is actually pretty nice for us compared to what we're normally used to. Welcome to the party! It's maybe a little bit too late for me, sorry (maybe my wife, kids, and jobs  ) . @Taipoka We don't have a lot information on South amercican scene, so what the situation on brazil n ow? Still Potiguar and Tunico on the top ?
Sorry, I really know more about Korean scene than Brazilian. Ugh!
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funny battle lol voidrays =D
hero adding more stargates.
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On April 27 2013 13:05 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 13:04 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 13:01 TimENT wrote:On April 27 2013 12:57 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:48 rj rl wrote:On April 27 2013 12:45 FabledIntegral wrote:On April 27 2013 12:44 TimENT wrote:On April 27 2013 12:43 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:42 Gescom wrote:On April 27 2013 12:41 TR wrote:
EffOrt playing scary good. Never underestimate him. I thought he played terribly... >_> They both played sloppy. Lmao no other player in the world can play at the level Innovation just played except Flash. But Innovation plays more impressive because he's spontaneous as fuck Yeah that was definitely not sloppy play. You don't normally see drops "unmicroed" like innovations because usually most players don't have 4 dropships out at once with another army simultaneously pushing out on the map. It's not hard to micro 1 army and 1 drop at the same time. exactly, the higher the level the greater the number of mistakes, it's as simple as this. I hope you realize what you said made no sense because of your wording. Because it could be read as the following, the higher the level of play the more likelihood we'll see mistakes which is flat-out wrong when in fact, the higher the level of play is contrary to that belief. As in one mistake can cost you the game. There were tons of botches in that game because of multitasking (which is what you meant and the other guy sort of said). Bogus and EffOrt alike found themselves in stupid situations throughout the entire game. With that said, Bogus is more than capable of handling two dropship groups at separate ends of the map and his main army at the same time. We've seen it before. It wasn't flawless but it got the job done. EffOrt's noose came very loose because Bogus kept him busy. Like any good Terran boi would do. I think you are REALLY downplaying the skill level Innovation is multitasking at. Downplaying? How am I downplaying when I say I've seen him do a better job with managing his army on three fronts? ._. Don't get me wrong. Happy EffOrt made it interesting and it was a good game, but I expect more from Bogus especially. Because it's wholly dependent on how your opponent is playing as well? If Innovation drops and there's no spore there he doesn't lose the drop. If effort isn't there already he can just stim and leave it. But if Effort responds to every drop within the first 5 seconds of it dropping, then it becomes exponentially harder to manage them. It's entirely dependent on opponent's ability to handle the drops. It's not like he's consistently cycling through all three drops every other second.
All Zergs should be expecting the dropships and have their bases more secure. What have we seen? More sunkens/spores to act as buffers. Zerg players are more prepared than they were when MMA was doing his thing. Then it's just a case of running your lings to and from the locations as you see the red dots on the mini-map.
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LOL This PvP is sooooo sad. SC2 PvP is such a sad game to spectate.
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New drinking game:
Everytime SNM says "for himself."
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That battle is so hilarious, first colossus got raped, then void rays slaughtered.
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On April 27 2013 13:05 rj rl wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 12:55 BigFan wrote:On April 27 2013 12:46 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:44 TimENT wrote:On April 27 2013 12:43 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:42 Gescom wrote:On April 27 2013 12:41 TR wrote:
EffOrt playing scary good. Never underestimate him. I thought he played terribly... >_> They both played sloppy. Lmao no other player in the world can play at the level Innovation just played except Flash. But Innovation plays more impressive because he's spontaneous as fuck I'm sorry, but I don't think Flash is that great at SC2 yet and Bogus definitely could have played that better. There's nothing spontaneous about what he did. He's known to use constant drops all over the map. I agree with this. Flash might've been the best BW player at the end etc... but Innovation is definitely the better player imo. His aggressive playstyle is amazing to watch in comparison to Flash's style. what are you talking about? Terran needs to be aggressive today if playing bio, so flash is nonstop aggression these days. Watch flash vs b4 -_-
Whenever I think back to Innovation vs Leenock at MLG, I can't help but feel like we haven't seen anyone including Flash play to that level, not to say that Flash is far back or anything. I would say they are almost equal with Innovation taking a slight lead. Unfortunately, I missed Flash's code S games so I'm not sure just how much better he has gotten since a while back.
On April 27 2013 13:06 Kommander wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 13:00 BigFan wrote:On April 27 2013 12:57 DMXD wrote:On April 27 2013 12:55 BigFan wrote:On April 27 2013 12:46 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:44 TimENT wrote:On April 27 2013 12:43 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:42 Gescom wrote:On April 27 2013 12:41 TR wrote:
EffOrt playing scary good. Never underestimate him. I thought he played terribly... >_> They both played sloppy. Lmao no other player in the world can play at the level Innovation just played except Flash. But Innovation plays more impressive because he's spontaneous as fuck I'm sorry, but I don't think Flash is that great at SC2 yet and Bogus definitely could have played that better. There's nothing spontaneous about what he did. He's known to use constant drops all over the map. I agree with this. Flash might've been the best BW player at the end etc... but Innovation is definitely the better player imo. His aggressive playstyle is amazing to watch in comparison to Flash's style. Really? Flash is pretty aggressive himself in sc2 but he take way more risks compare to bogus I think. From the games I've seen, at least in comparison to Innovation, his style is less aggressive. I think it's because he doesn't drop as much as Innovation and tries to just macro up like in BW> Different kind of aggression. Bogus does multiple drops which are deadly because of his incredible multitasking while Flash sends streams of bio + mines which seem endless because of his incredible macro.
fair enough
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On April 27 2013 13:11 Thrillz wrote:
New drinking game, everytime SNM says "for himself."
All casters have tics. ~_~
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If I were blind and listening I'd think that the game was close
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Protoss matchups, they hurt! They hurt my soul!!!
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On April 27 2013 13:13 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 13:11 Thrillz wrote:
New drinking game, everytime SNM says "for himself." All casters have tics. ~_~
Siiiiiiiiick.
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On April 27 2013 12:57 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 12:48 rj rl wrote:On April 27 2013 12:45 FabledIntegral wrote:On April 27 2013 12:44 TimENT wrote:On April 27 2013 12:43 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:42 Gescom wrote:On April 27 2013 12:41 TR wrote:
EffOrt playing scary good. Never underestimate him. I thought he played terribly... >_> They both played sloppy. Lmao no other player in the world can play at the level Innovation just played except Flash. But Innovation plays more impressive because he's spontaneous as fuck Yeah that was definitely not sloppy play. You don't normally see drops "unmicroed" like innovations because usually most players don't have 4 dropships out at once with another army simultaneously pushing out on the map. It's not hard to micro 1 army and 1 drop at the same time. exactly, the higher the level the greater the number of mistakes, it's as simple as this. I hope you realize what you said made no sense because of your wording. Because it could be read as the following, the higher the level of play the more likelihood we'll see mistakes which is flat-out wrong when in fact, the higher the level of play is contrary to that belief. As in one mistake can cost you the game. There were tons of botches in that game because of multitasking (which is what you meant and the other guy sort of said). Bogus and EffOrt alike found themselves in stupid situations throughout the entire game. With that said, Bogus is more than capable of handling two dropship groups at separate ends of the map and his main army at the same time. We've seen it before. It wasn't flawless but it got the job done. EffOrt's noose came very loose because Bogus kept him busy. Like any good Terran boi would do.
i said what i meant believe it or not you might have interpreted it wrong though, as by the level i meant the competition level, which requires both players to be equally good. The tension is what generates mistakes
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I watch 500 mass voidray games and still never fully realize how good it is
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Poll: Recommend Classic vs herO R4?Yes (9) 53% No (5) 29% If you have time (3) 18% 17 total votes Your vote: Recommend Classic vs herO R4? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
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On April 27 2013 13:06 Wertheron wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 13:02 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 12:55 Wertheron wrote:
It's the first time i watch SPL so late (it's 6 am here in France) we have to make a congratulation thread on all the foreigners viewers, when european viewers stop, amercians (US,Canadian, Brazilian and the rest of South America) take over, we are "sc2 crazy"!!! Why? A lot of us have been watching for years at even worse hours. Right now, the time is actually pretty nice for us compared to what we're normally used to. Welcome to the party! It's maybe a little bit too late for me, sorry (maybe my wife, kids, and jobs ) . @Taipoka We don't have a lot information on South amercican scene, so what the situation on brazil n ow? Still Potiguar and Tunico on the top ?
Basically, yes.
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Awesome game. This map was obviously air superior with the placements of the 3rds and that deny just gave hero a huge lead. I was scared he was going to lose after overcommitting those voids but he had a bank.
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On April 27 2013 13:15 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 13:13 StarStruck wrote:On April 27 2013 13:11 Thrillz wrote:
New drinking game, everytime SNM says "for himself." All casters have tics. ~_~ Siiiiiiiiick.
"xxx was the best _ _ I have casted"
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is it worth it to focus fire with voidrays or is it a move all the way?
against stalkers that is
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i don't play protoss, and have almost zero understanding of pvp, but isn't storm good against mass void rays? (i've seen some protoss use it against mass void ray in pvp in previous proleague matches)
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