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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 18 2013 17:40 GMT
#2421
On April 19 2013 02:21 p14c wrote:
If I was Life I would be more preoccupied about Kespa Zergs. They kicked his ass twice out of the Code S. I hope he practised ZvZ a lot..


Yeah. Time to practice HotS ZvZ really hard:
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Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
April 18 2013 17:40 GMT
#2422
On April 19 2013 01:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 01:32 Klogon wrote:
On April 19 2013 01:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 19 2013 01:21 Klogon wrote:
I don't know if you guys follow college sports, but Kespa vs eSF has become like conference versus conference. Usually you root for your conference in inter-conference match ups, even if you usually think of that team as a rival.

the SEC conference cheering is so stupid. it's just fans from the schools that can't win anything trying to act relevant >.>
I assume that's what you're referring to

and even with that, though, you have other things like strength of schedule and the rankings to take into account. if your conference is perceived as strong you get better preseason rankings etc. none of that applies to this so it's pointless


Then how's a soccer comparison? In Champions League, you generally want your country's teams to do well because it makes your league seem stronger.

Sure there may be other motives (strength of schedule, champions league spots in future, etc) but that doesn't mean identifying with one group/league/conference is stupid or irrational. It happens in almost every other competitive sport. Think about if UFC champion was paired off against the Pride champion in MMA (when it was still around). exactly. Fans of each promotion would be cheering for their own champion.

Hardly pointless. It's called being a fan.

I mean I guess there's no real point in debating it because we already have our minds made up how we view it. To me I see it like this hypothetical situation. Let's say I'm a Braves fan in baseball. Why should I care if the Giants beat the Angels or not? Or in another situation. Should a Yankees fan be cheering for the Red Sox to win because GO AMERICAN LEAGUE! It just doesn't seem right to cheer for your rival. I'd rather see them lose regardless of who they are playing.That's just my take on it but I guess it's just a personal preference.


Maybe you don't care, that doesn't mean others don't. Actually I've seen quite a lot of baseball fans who care about the ASG and interleague records because they want to feel like their league is stronger.

As for your Yankees/Red Sox example, they might not cheer for them but that doesn't mean they wouldn't look at the Red Sox beating NL teams and say "getting beat by Boston, L0L0L NL sux".

At least, this was my experience from when I used to frequent the ESPN.com MLB forums. Take it for what it's worth. I think whether you're talking about SC2 or baseball, the "average" fan doesn't care about these things but there will always be some people who do.
BW forever || Thall
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 18 2013 17:46 GMT
#2423
On April 19 2013 02:15 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 01:25 StarStruck wrote:
On April 19 2013 00:29 ZenithM wrote:
Btw I think you can detect fairly consistently which "faction" is a poster from by just looking at the way he capitalizes "eSF" and "KeSPA".
If he's a KeSPA guy, he will write correctly "KeSPA" and all caps "ESF" or something.
If he's an eSF guy, he will write correctly "eSF" and just do whatever with Kespa.

I write "Kespa" and "eSF", haha.


Rubbish quirk you have.

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
You guys need to get over this ESF versus KeSPA and vice versa bullshit. It's getting old and stale.

So, you ain't taking sides...
Or are you?


I'm on no one's side.

On April 19 2013 02:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 02:18 Zealously wrote:
On April 19 2013 02:15 ZenithM wrote:

On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
You guys need to get over this ESF versus KeSPA and vice versa bullshit. It's getting old and stale.

So, you ain't taking sides...
Or are you?


On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
You guys need to get over this ESF versus KeSPA and vice versa bullshit. It's getting old and stale.


On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
It's getting old and stale.


On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
stale


On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
Startale


eSF fan detected


Nope there's still a little space dust on it *blow*

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
Woongjin Stars


>____>


Funneh!
BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 18:23:45
April 18 2013 18:20 GMT
#2424
Ugh, Ret is so pathetic. Not like any Terran nerfs would help him anyways as ZvP and ZvZ he would still get owned


Mind you the race distribution is 6 Zerg, 6 Terran, and 2 Protoss. Protoss is such a random race
YOLO
dr.who
Profile Joined March 2012
Dominican Republic145 Posts
April 18 2013 18:21 GMT
#2425
YEY FLASH! that's what im talking about.... God mode inc.
This is the way
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 18 2013 18:24 GMT
#2426
Flash! I wish I didn't sleep through a couple of his games because of the godawful late-night broadcast hours and the extreme comfort of my bed, but he looked exquisite from what I've seen.

I'm really sad that Maru didn't make it through considering how cool it was to see him mech in the first series. With bio play so prevalent nowadays, I really want to see more mech from time to time.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
April 18 2013 18:24 GMT
#2427
KeSPA vs eSF already bores me because recent games have proven that KeSPA beats the shit out of eSF.

And I bet any eSF players who will remain in the quarterfinal will be picked up by a KeSPA team (hello big salary) as soon as possible.

Bye eSF fanboys, better pick a KeSPA team to cheer on.
SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
April 18 2013 18:29 GMT
#2428
On April 19 2013 03:20 BigAsia wrote:
Ugh, Ret is so pathetic. Not like any Terran nerfs would help him anyways as ZvP and ZvZ he would still get owned


Mind you the race distribution is 6 Zerg, 6 Terran, and 2 Protoss. Protoss is such a random race

This.... as it is now, the good zergs are doing well, the people that turtle until BL/infestor are getting destroyed. Fine by me.
Julyzerg ftw
BigAsia
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada451 Posts
April 18 2013 18:31 GMT
#2429
On April 19 2013 03:29 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 03:20 BigAsia wrote:
Ugh, Ret is so pathetic. Not like any Terran nerfs would help him anyways as ZvP and ZvZ he would still get owned


Mind you the race distribution is 6 Zerg, 6 Terran, and 2 Protoss. Protoss is such a random race

This.... as it is now, the good zergs are doing well, the people that turtle until BL/infestor are getting destroyed. Fine by me.


Exactly, plus Life and Leenock's group hasn't even played yet, so the Zerg count may grow
YOLO
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 18 2013 18:37 GMT
#2430
On April 19 2013 03:29 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 03:20 BigAsia wrote:
Ugh, Ret is so pathetic. Not like any Terran nerfs would help him anyways as ZvP and ZvZ he would still get owned


Mind you the race distribution is 6 Zerg, 6 Terran, and 2 Protoss. Protoss is such a random race

This.... as it is now, the good zergs are doing well, the people that turtle until BL/infestor are getting destroyed. Fine by me.


Name one Zerg that didn't win most of his games with BL/Infestor. Hell, name a unit composition that actually could win ZvP in WoL that was not BL/Infestor. Saying that "the people that turtle until BL/infestor are getting destroyed" would mean that no Zerg does well now. And that's not true. By far not.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 18 2013 18:37 GMT
#2431
On April 19 2013 03:24 sinigang wrote:
KeSPA vs eSF already bores me because recent games have proven that KeSPA beats the shit out of eSF.

And I bet any eSF players who will remain in the quarterfinal will be picked up by a KeSPA team (hello big salary) as soon as possible.

Bye eSF fanboys, better pick a KeSPA team to cheer on.


Yeah because Yoda, Gumiho, Symbol, Taeja, and LosirA didn't recently just beat Kespa players. Your standard for "proof" that Kespa beats the shit out of ESF is rather strange.
the_business_og
Profile Joined April 2012
United States167 Posts
April 18 2013 18:45 GMT
#2432
On April 19 2013 03:37 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 03:24 sinigang wrote:
KeSPA vs eSF already bores me because recent games have proven that KeSPA beats the shit out of eSF.

And I bet any eSF players who will remain in the quarterfinal will be picked up by a KeSPA team (hello big salary) as soon as possible.

Bye eSF fanboys, better pick a KeSPA team to cheer on.


Yeah because Yoda, Gumiho, Symbol, Taeja, and LosirA didn't recently just beat Kespa players. Your standard for "proof" that Kespa beats the shit out of ESF is rather strange.

esf players can take matches, but as much as i hate to admit it, kespa players are better and will be getting better at a quicker rate
shanti
daskilla
Profile Joined July 2010
Latvia141 Posts
April 18 2013 18:47 GMT
#2433
Why is this ESF and KESPA argument still going on? There are bad players, good players and S class players in both organizations... KESPA catched ESF players last year skillwise, but neither of them dominates others.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
April 18 2013 18:53 GMT
#2434
elephants on the march
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
April 18 2013 18:56 GMT
#2435
On April 19 2013 03:47 daskilla wrote:
Why is this ESF and KESPA argument still going on? There are bad players, good players and S class players in both organizations... KESPA catched ESF players last year skillwise, but neither of them dominates others.


Woo, rational people!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 18 2013 19:03 GMT
#2436
I skipped work to watch Flash's games. Totally worth it. ;P
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
April 18 2013 19:09 GMT
#2437
On April 19 2013 03:56 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 03:47 daskilla wrote:
Why is this ESF and KESPA argument still going on? There are bad players, good players and S class players in both organizations... KESPA catched ESF players last year skillwise, but neither of them dominates others.


Woo, rational people!

It's too early to say. If the current trend continues GSL could wery well be ~90% KeSPA in a few months (even without buyouts). It's nearly 50/50 atm and I just don't see it staying that way for long. It's not like at this point we have reached some magical balance between both groups. One group will eventually emerge as the more dominant one and I doubt it will be eSF.
StarCraft도 Quake도 좋아해요.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
April 18 2013 19:31 GMT
#2438
On April 19 2013 02:22 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 02:18 Zealously wrote:
On April 19 2013 02:15 ZenithM wrote:

On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
You guys need to get over this ESF versus KeSPA and vice versa bullshit. It's getting old and stale.

So, you ain't taking sides...
Or are you?


On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
You guys need to get over this ESF versus KeSPA and vice versa bullshit. It's getting old and stale.


On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
It's getting old and stale.


On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
stale


On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
Startale


eSF fan detected


Nope there's still a little space dust on it *blow*

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:14 StarStruck wrote:
Woongjin Stars


>____>

But wait! There's more! *blowhard*
"Woongjin Stars are scrubclan"
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
April 18 2013 19:55 GMT
#2439
Can VODs of this be watched for free anywhere?
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
April 18 2013 20:04 GMT
#2440
Wow Flash looked so dominant. Glad that Soulkey advanced too! ^_^
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
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