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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 15:37:59
April 18 2013 15:37 GMT
#2361
Hell, there was even a bit of kespa vs esf from the players in the player interviews before the last WoL GSL finals. "something something he's an association zerg something something" I don't really remember anymore.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 18 2013 15:37 GMT
#2362
On April 19 2013 00:33 Slardar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:28 lichter wrote:
On April 19 2013 00:23 Slardar wrote:
Let there be BLOOD ESF VS KeSPA. Whoever is against that movement is killing eSports. Plain and simple. What's wrong with a little rivalry?

Taking it overboard is a problem (e.g. Canucks losing the Cup and trashing the city) but the rivalry is amazing. Tournament viewers plummet when there are only Koreans left. Sad fact. Perhaps the KeSPA vs ESF will put an end to it.


A majority of fans are casuals. Unfortunately I don't think they'll care about eSF vs Kespa. To them everyone is just Korean. Pretty sure the casuals know jack shit about BW too. It might help the Korean scene (though I don't think they care that much either).

To be honest the rivalry only exists in hardcore bw/sc2 forums. But if it makes you like the game more go ahead


I personally have no favoritism between the two factions, I have my players that is it. I was speaking on behalf of the community at large, this is a beneficial thing. I think this is the next thing Casters should be pushing and explaining to the casuals "What is ESF vs KeSPA rivalry?".

There needs to be something to remove as you said it "Casuals see just Koreans, then stop watching". That is a massive problem.


There is nothing to identify with in Kespa vs Esf for casuals. What do they care who is who? More likely they will stick with ESF guys because that's who they know, and casuals won't know about BW. At least with local guys they can cheer for nationalism.

I think we need more funny interviews.

And game shows featuring the players

And GSL Off the Record. Onlinejaguar will cheese Flash as he wears a clown hat and bear claw gloves.

And more (interesting) gossip. Mvp dating Ga-in? Good gossip. Some random B teamer stream cheating? Bad gossip
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
April 18 2013 15:39 GMT
#2363
On April 19 2013 00:36 ZenithM wrote:
I'm more a fan of Terran vs "everything else".
I despise you guys for playing other races and caring for non-Terran players. It should only be TvT all day. TvT is far superior to SC2.


Innovation vs Gumiho. Make it happen GSL. That's the TvT we need.
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
April 18 2013 15:40 GMT
#2364
Some little talks between Flash and his fangirls after today's GSL


After the GSL today, Flash was talking to his fangirls.

One fangirl from China asked Flash: "How long have you prepared for today's match?"

Flash said: "About one or two days."

Three Korean fangirls were surprised and made a slip of the tongue: "But why beaten so hard in SPL?"

And everyone including Flash is awkwardly silent.

(This is not made up or a joke.)

Source: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=347022&extra=page=1
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 18 2013 15:43 GMT
#2365
On April 19 2013 00:40 larse wrote:
Some little talks between Flash and his fangirls after today's GSL


After the GSL today, Flash was talking to his fangirls.

One fangirl from China asked Flash: "How long have you prepared for today's match?"

Flash said: "About one or two days."

Three Korean fangirls were surprised and made a slip of the tongue: "But why beaten so hard in SPL?"

And everyone including Flash is awkwardly silent.

(This is not made up or a joke.)

Source: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=347022&extra=page=1


Holy shit that is harsh xD
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 18 2013 15:43 GMT
#2366
On April 19 2013 00:40 larse wrote:
Some little talks between Flash and his fangirls after today's GSL


After the GSL today, Flash was talking to his fangirls.

One fangirl from China asked Flash: "How long have you prepared for today's match?"

Flash said: "About one or two days."

Three Korean fangirls were surprised and made a slip of the tongue: "But why beaten so hard in SPL?"

And everyone including Flash is awkwardly silent.

(This is not made up or a joke.)

Source: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=347022&extra=page=1


hahaha, amazing
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CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
April 18 2013 15:45 GMT
#2367
On April 19 2013 00:30 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:14 ChoiSulli wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:49 forsooth wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:44 ChoiSulli wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:26 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:23 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:19 DidYuhim wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:39 mordk wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:38 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:37 mordk wrote:
[quote]
Huh?

If Leenock and Life go through it's gonna be 50% eSF

One could argue about Parting as well, but I guess it's almost enough time for him to be considered KeSPA

Taeja's not.

Oh well I tend to call all non-kespa koreans eSF koreans... it's meaningless though.

The whole KeSPA vs eSF is meaningless, but people still want to argue.

On April 18 2013 23:19 illidanx wrote:
KESSPAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111

hahaha


What's funny about that? They are not the same person.



I hate when people say KESPA vs ESF is meaningless, its the thing that is keeping me most interested in SC2, I posted this a few days ago in Group C, when someone else said something similar, trying to explain to him why it matters to some people..

On April 11 2013 00:41 ChoiSulli wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
why do people care about kespa or esf. it doesnt fucking matter



Oh it matters. I despise anyone that is a fan of ESF. I think BW is superior in every way over SC2 and that KESPA players are the best RTS players. So by them crushing ESF guys I think it validates my believe. Its one of the main reasons I follow the SC2 scene. I also dont get why people get upset when someone posts about one or the other superiority. Thats the kind of stuff that makes rooting for sports so fun. As long as its done in a not in your face way, I dont see anything wrong with it. I would love to have SC2 get to a point where you go to a live event, and some players actually get booed and stuff (minus of course flash cause thats just not cool).

But yeah it matters to some of us, I'll never ever root for ESF and wont be satisfied till they all go back to being B-team dishwashers, harsh I know, but its how I feel.


I get that it dosent matter to some of you, but why do you assume then that its the same for everyone. Some of us identify strongly with one side or the other, I dont get why this bothers you guys. Find something yourselfs to be passionate about but dont get angry and annoyed at us for being passionate about something.

You call it passion, I call it being exceptionally childish.


I have strong feelings about it, I dont make posts insulting one side or the other, or boasting when KESPA is winning. Just in my heart I feel strongly about it. I would agree wiht you that if Flash wins, and I go in and post HAHAH suck it ESF, that would be childish. I dont do that, and you can confirm with my post history.

I dont know what you are extremly passionate about, but say it was soccer, and if I didnt give a fuck about soccer, does that give me the right to say your childish for carrying about soccer or a particular team? No, you obviously Identify with it for some reason, which I dont understand but I can respect. I happen to identify very strongly with KESPA players and hate ESF players, so im passionate about the rivalry. You may not understand or agree with me, but just because you dont have the same feelings as me about it, how does that make my feelings childish??

Its like someone comes and says, why care about a video game.

You can probably answer them, as to why you care about video games.

Then you may have gamers, and some of them maybe dont get why anyone would care about sc2.

Im sure you can explain to them why you are passionate about Sc2.

You may have Sc2 fans not understand why you like koreans, and watch GSL.

Im that there are people here that can explain why they are passionate about that.

You may have people not get why you care about a certain player.

You can probably explain, why you identify with him and cheer for him.

You have people who dont get why people care about ESF and KESPA

Well some of us can tell you why we identify, and care about that.

At every one of those levels a persons lack of understanding sometimes called ignorance, can lead to them saying shit like "your childish" "video games are stupid" "who cares about kroeans they got no personality" "whats the difference between KESPA and ESF its the same shit"....

Now we can see why I refer to it as passion and you as childish.




A passion can be childish. Yours, definitly is and there is no demagogy enough in this world to cover up the fucked up mindset people like you have when it comes to kespa vs esf thing. And yes, i am referring to the "despise" other people while expecting others to "not despise" your passion as childish.

Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:29 ZenithM wrote:
Btw I think you can detect fairly consistently which "faction" is a poster from by just looking at the way he capitalizes "eSF" and "KeSPA".
If he's a KeSPA guy, he will write correctly "KeSPA" and all caps "ESF" or something.
If he's an eSF guy, he will write correctly "eSF" and just do whatever with Kespa.

I write "Kespa" and "eSF", haha.



i write kespa and esf. What does that make me ? :O


What if some cool kid in highschool that plays only sports said what you said but we sub some stuff.

A passion can be childish. Yours, definitly is and there is no demagogy enough in this world to cover up the fucked up mindset people like you have when it comes to video games. And yes, i am referring to the "despise" other people while expecting others to "not despise" your passion as childish.

I guess you can argue oh I dont despise other people part but thats not really the point. The point is that whatever the fuck it is you care about, someone might look at it as stupid and childish. You can tell the cool kid he is ignorant cause he dosent know anything about video games and how intense and cool games can be. Cant I say the same for you, that your ignorant, and that you do understand why the fuck KESPA matters so much to me, why 10 years of my life devoted to BW made me kind of bitter and angry when SC2 came and killed it and that one way I can have satisfaction and joy is by KESPA dominating SC2. Maybe your right, and I do have a fucked up mindest, but maybe you poured 10 years of your life into something. Maybe I deserve to get offended and upset when you try to tell me that that didnt mean shit, and i need to let it go. Well it meant something bro, at least understand that.
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tozi
Profile Joined October 2008
United States506 Posts
April 18 2013 15:46 GMT
#2368
YEAAA, FLASH!

so R16 players are seeded into next code S?
nothing
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 15:48 GMT
#2369
On April 19 2013 00:46 tozi wrote:
YEAAA, FLASH!

so R16 players are seeded into next code S?

no ro8
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poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
April 18 2013 15:50 GMT
#2370
Yes!!! Kespa fighting!!!!
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
April 18 2013 15:52 GMT
#2371
On April 19 2013 00:40 larse wrote:
Some little talks between Flash and his fangirls after today's GSL


After the GSL today, Flash was talking to his fangirls.

One fangirl from China asked Flash: "How long have you prepared for today's match?"

Flash said: "About one or two days."

Three Korean fangirls were surprised and made a slip of the tongue: "But why beaten so hard in SPL?"

And everyone including Flash is awkwardly silent.

(This is not made up or a joke.)

Source: http://www.playsc.com/forum/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=347022&extra=page=1

Even a God... can cry.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 15:56:43
April 18 2013 15:54 GMT
#2372
On April 19 2013 00:45 ChoiSulli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:30 Godwrath wrote:
On April 19 2013 00:14 ChoiSulli wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:49 forsooth wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:44 ChoiSulli wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:26 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:23 opterown wrote:
On April 18 2013 23:19 DidYuhim wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:39 mordk wrote:
On April 18 2013 22:38 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
[quote]
Taeja's not.

Oh well I tend to call all non-kespa koreans eSF koreans... it's meaningless though.

The whole KeSPA vs eSF is meaningless, but people still want to argue.

On April 18 2013 23:19 illidanx wrote:
KESSPAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111

hahaha


What's funny about that? They are not the same person.



I hate when people say KESPA vs ESF is meaningless, its the thing that is keeping me most interested in SC2, I posted this a few days ago in Group C, when someone else said something similar, trying to explain to him why it matters to some people..

On April 11 2013 00:41 ChoiSulli wrote:
On April 10 2013 23:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
why do people care about kespa or esf. it doesnt fucking matter



Oh it matters. I despise anyone that is a fan of ESF. I think BW is superior in every way over SC2 and that KESPA players are the best RTS players. So by them crushing ESF guys I think it validates my believe. Its one of the main reasons I follow the SC2 scene. I also dont get why people get upset when someone posts about one or the other superiority. Thats the kind of stuff that makes rooting for sports so fun. As long as its done in a not in your face way, I dont see anything wrong with it. I would love to have SC2 get to a point where you go to a live event, and some players actually get booed and stuff (minus of course flash cause thats just not cool).

But yeah it matters to some of us, I'll never ever root for ESF and wont be satisfied till they all go back to being B-team dishwashers, harsh I know, but its how I feel.


I get that it dosent matter to some of you, but why do you assume then that its the same for everyone. Some of us identify strongly with one side or the other, I dont get why this bothers you guys. Find something yourselfs to be passionate about but dont get angry and annoyed at us for being passionate about something.

You call it passion, I call it being exceptionally childish.


I have strong feelings about it, I dont make posts insulting one side or the other, or boasting when KESPA is winning. Just in my heart I feel strongly about it. I would agree wiht you that if Flash wins, and I go in and post HAHAH suck it ESF, that would be childish. I dont do that, and you can confirm with my post history.

I dont know what you are extremly passionate about, but say it was soccer, and if I didnt give a fuck about soccer, does that give me the right to say your childish for carrying about soccer or a particular team? No, you obviously Identify with it for some reason, which I dont understand but I can respect. I happen to identify very strongly with KESPA players and hate ESF players, so im passionate about the rivalry. You may not understand or agree with me, but just because you dont have the same feelings as me about it, how does that make my feelings childish??

Its like someone comes and says, why care about a video game.

You can probably answer them, as to why you care about video games.

Then you may have gamers, and some of them maybe dont get why anyone would care about sc2.

Im sure you can explain to them why you are passionate about Sc2.

You may have Sc2 fans not understand why you like koreans, and watch GSL.

Im that there are people here that can explain why they are passionate about that.

You may have people not get why you care about a certain player.

You can probably explain, why you identify with him and cheer for him.

You have people who dont get why people care about ESF and KESPA

Well some of us can tell you why we identify, and care about that.

At every one of those levels a persons lack of understanding sometimes called ignorance, can lead to them saying shit like "your childish" "video games are stupid" "who cares about kroeans they got no personality" "whats the difference between KESPA and ESF its the same shit"....

Now we can see why I refer to it as passion and you as childish.




A passion can be childish. Yours, definitly is and there is no demagogy enough in this world to cover up the fucked up mindset people like you have when it comes to kespa vs esf thing. And yes, i am referring to the "despise" other people while expecting others to "not despise" your passion as childish.

On April 19 2013 00:29 ZenithM wrote:
Btw I think you can detect fairly consistently which "faction" is a poster from by just looking at the way he capitalizes "eSF" and "KeSPA".
If he's a KeSPA guy, he will write correctly "KeSPA" and all caps "ESF" or something.
If he's an eSF guy, he will write correctly "eSF" and just do whatever with Kespa.

I write "Kespa" and "eSF", haha.



i write kespa and esf. What does that make me ? :O


What if some cool kid in highschool that plays only sports said what you said but we sub some stuff.

A passion can be childish. Yours, definitly is and there is no demagogy enough in this world to cover up the fucked up mindset people like you have when it comes to video games. And yes, i am referring to the "despise" other people while expecting others to "not despise" your passion as childish.

I guess you can argue oh I dont despise other people part but thats not really the point. The point is that whatever the fuck it is you care about, someone might look at it as stupid and childish. You can tell the cool kid he is ignorant cause he dosent know anything about video games and how intense and cool games can be. Cant I say the same for you, that your ignorant, and that you do understand why the fuck KESPA matters so much to me, why 10 years of my life devoted to BW made me kind of bitter and angry when SC2 came and killed it and that one way I can have satisfaction and joy is by KESPA dominating SC2. Maybe your right, and I do have a fucked up mindest, but maybe you poured 10 years of your life into something. Maybe I deserve to get offended and upset when you try to tell me that that didnt mean shit, and i need to let it go. Well it meant something bro, at least understand that.


No one is saying BW doesn't matter man =/ You can't blame some of the younger people for not knowing about BW. Some of the fans never even got to play it. Can't blame them if it was already an old game by them time they got into video games. A lot of SC2 fans ask a lot about BW because they want to learn more about it. There aren't a lot of great resources about it, but you can see that a lot of fans are genuinely interested in these players and their histories. That's why I appreciate SNM, he knows a decent amount of history and he shares this in his PL casts.

Only the forum trolls ever went into BW forums and celebrated its death. Only forum trolls hated on Kespa players when they decided to switch. You can see almost everyone loves a lot of Kespa players.

And Blizz killed BW. Not ESF, not its players, and definitely not the fans. Hate on Blizz if you want. Heck, Kespa decided to switch. ESF, its players, and its fans had nothing to do with it.

Relax man, it's bad for your soul to have so much hate over a game.

Edit: I'm not saying you have no right to be upset. Of course you do. You loved the game and now it's gone. But you shouldn't blame people who had nothing to do with it going away.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
April 18 2013 15:54 GMT
#2373
Oo;;

KeSPA too stong!
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Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 18 2013 15:58 GMT
#2374
On April 19 2013 00:37 NicksonReyes wrote:
Hell, there was even a bit of kespa vs esf from the players in the player interviews before the last WoL GSL finals. "something something he's an association zerg something something" I don't really remember anymore.

But everytime when they are getting asked about it they say both sides are equal and they are all just players.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3751 Posts
April 18 2013 15:59 GMT
#2375
Yea. Round of 16 is dominated with KeSPA with 8 players. With TaeJa in, KeSPA is guaranteed to have note spots than eSF.
revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
April 18 2013 16:00 GMT
#2376
On April 19 2013 00:29 ZenithM wrote:
Btw I think you can detect fairly consistently which "faction" is a poster from by just looking at the way he capitalizes "eSF" and "KeSPA".
If he's a KeSPA guy, he will write correctly "KeSPA" and all caps "ESF" or something.
If he's an eSF guy, he will write correctly "eSF" and just do whatever with Kespa.

I write "Kespa" and "eSF", haha.

I write KeSPA and eSF. Who am I?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 16:00 GMT
#2377
On April 19 2013 01:00 revoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:29 ZenithM wrote:
Btw I think you can detect fairly consistently which "faction" is a poster from by just looking at the way he capitalizes "eSF" and "KeSPA".
If he's a KeSPA guy, he will write correctly "KeSPA" and all caps "ESF" or something.
If he's an eSF guy, he will write correctly "eSF" and just do whatever with Kespa.

I write "Kespa" and "eSF", haha.

I write KeSPA and eSF. Who am I?

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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 18 2013 16:02 GMT
#2378
On April 19 2013 00:58 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:37 NicksonReyes wrote:
Hell, there was even a bit of kespa vs esf from the players in the player interviews before the last WoL GSL finals. "something something he's an association zerg something something" I don't really remember anymore.

But everytime when they are getting asked about it they say both sides are equal and they are all just players.


Yeah that's my problem, there is zero storyline so far :< I know the BW and SC2 well enough, yet this rivalry is so dull. They should spice it up a bit. I so want a unique teamleague.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2013 16:02 GMT
#2379
On April 19 2013 01:02 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:58 Assirra wrote:
On April 19 2013 00:37 NicksonReyes wrote:
Hell, there was even a bit of kespa vs esf from the players in the player interviews before the last WoL GSL finals. "something something he's an association zerg something something" I don't really remember anymore.

But everytime when they are getting asked about it they say both sides are equal and they are all just players.


Yeah that's my problem, there is zero storyline so far :< I know the BW and SC2 well enough, yet this rivalry is so dull. They should spice it up a bit. I so want a unique teamleague.

need a proleague vs gstl "super bowl"
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Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
April 18 2013 16:03 GMT
#2380
Maruuuu DDDD=
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