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Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
April 16 2013 11:15 GMT
#841
keen read the tl thread, gonna pass 10 widowmines soon
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
April 16 2013 11:15 GMT
#842
On April 16 2013 20:11 Dodgin wrote:
I remember in Iron Squid 1 last year Symbol beat MKP 3-0 with cheese in the ro8, going to the offline finals instead of him.

man that was awesome, the MKP fans were so pissed.


Oh yeah that was awesome, MKP going blindly 3CC off 1 marine against a 1 base roach. ^^
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
April 16 2013 11:16 GMT
#843
DOUDOU, you mean Plott twist right:>?
The Bomber boy
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
April 16 2013 11:16 GMT
#844
Sexy attack by Keen. Might have to steal that for my ladder play.
Flash | Mvp
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
April 16 2013 11:17 GMT
#845
amazing split second defense by Symbol. That was great.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 16 2013 11:17 GMT
#846
On April 16 2013 20:14 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:12 Yello wrote:
Winners' Match
Symbol vs Keen
Game 2: Akilon Wastes

Symbol starts in the upper left corner
Keen starts in the lower right corner

0:00-4:00min

Keen starts with Rax and Refinery, Symbol goes for Hatch first, then Pool and Gas
Reaper in production for Keen, 2nd Depot to complete the Wall

Symbol sees the first Reaper with an Overlord and builds 6 Lings and 2 Queens, he also keeps all his Drones in his main
2nd Reaper in production for Keen


4:00-6:00min
Keen starts harassing with 2 Reapers but only damages some Zerglings while expanding to his natural, adding Factory and Reactor and a 3rd CC in his main
Symbol keeps denying the Reapers with his Queens and Lings

6:00-8:00min
Symbol takes a third base, Keen builds Hellions and starts Stim research
Symbol wants to do some harass with his Lings but Hellions are out and force them out

Keen adds more Raxes and Widow Mines, Symbol goes for 2 Evo Chambers and additional Queens and Drones


8:00-10:00min
Keen builds 2 E-Bays and tries to deny Creep with his Hellions but Symbol uses a Spine and 3 Queens to keep spreading
Keen attacks with a weird timing with 4 Widow Mines, 2 Reapers, 5 Marines with Stim and 6 Hellions

10:00-12:00min
Symbol gets caught off-guard with that timing and loses a lot of Zerglings and 13 Drones at his third base
Keen builds more Mines and Marines and starts his Starport while taking his 3rd base

Symbol builds lots of Lings and starts his Spire and Baneling Speed, his 2-2 starts a few seconds earlier than Keen's
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12740 Posts
April 16 2013 11:18 GMT
#847
On April 16 2013 20:14 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:14 ETisME wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:13 Ketch wrote:
Wow, no marines means an infinite overlord scout... wow.

why is that surprising lol


It's not, but I never realized that some of these reaper openings will delay marines for so long

it's still a bit risky though, some gets widow mines instead of hellions and you can have your overlord blasted down
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
April 16 2013 11:18 GMT
#848
Wow, Symbol is not a-moving into mines. He must be a ZvT revolutionist!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
April 16 2013 11:18 GMT
#849
On April 16 2013 20:14 Ctesias wrote:
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On April 16 2013 20:13 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:12 Ctesias wrote:
I like this new aggressive Symbol, gotta say.


not really aggressive, just cheesy. but it's nice to see zerg cheese working every now and then.


Cheese is aggressive. Personally I don't have much for the term cheese either way. Any strat that works is one that should be used, and there's no need to be belittle it by such a negative term as cheese.


yes cheese is aggressive, but what symbol is doing is specifically cheese. calling it aggressive doesn't do justice to truly good aggressive play, the kind Life does or something. it's very different.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 16 2013 11:19 GMT
#850
On April 16 2013 20:18 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:14 Ctesias wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:13 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:12 Ctesias wrote:
I like this new aggressive Symbol, gotta say.


not really aggressive, just cheesy. but it's nice to see zerg cheese working every now and then.


Cheese is aggressive. Personally I don't have much for the term cheese either way. Any strat that works is one that should be used, and there's no need to be belittle it by such a negative term as cheese.


yes cheese is aggressive, but what symbol is doing is specifically cheese. calling it aggressive doesn't do justice to truly good aggressive play, the kind Life does or something. it's very different.


Life does cheese a lot too though.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
fishb00n
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany607 Posts
April 16 2013 11:20 GMT
#851
do mutashots bounce at undetected burrowed/invis units ?
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8758 Posts
April 16 2013 11:20 GMT
#852
I gotta say with that zoning stuff with widow mines etc. that 's a fucking amazing matchup.
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
April 16 2013 11:20 GMT
#853
Terrible, terrible damage.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
April 16 2013 11:21 GMT
#854
Symbol is just showing how to make mines a waste of resources and not a good replacement for tanks.
LiquipediaWanderer
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
April 16 2013 11:21 GMT
#855

this music again
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 16 2013 11:21 GMT
#856
On April 16 2013 20:17 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 20:14 Yello wrote:
On April 16 2013 20:12 Yello wrote:
Winners' Match
Symbol vs Keen
Game 2: Akilon Wastes

Symbol starts in the upper left corner
Keen starts in the lower right corner

0:00-4:00min

Keen starts with Rax and Refinery, Symbol goes for Hatch first, then Pool and Gas
Reaper in production for Keen, 2nd Depot to complete the Wall

Symbol sees the first Reaper with an Overlord and builds 6 Lings and 2 Queens, he also keeps all his Drones in his main
2nd Reaper in production for Keen


4:00-6:00min
Keen starts harassing with 2 Reapers but only damages some Zerglings while expanding to his natural, adding Factory and Reactor and a 3rd CC in his main
Symbol keeps denying the Reapers with his Queens and Lings

6:00-8:00min
Symbol takes a third base, Keen builds Hellions and starts Stim research
Symbol wants to do some harass with his Lings but Hellions are out and force them out

Keen adds more Raxes and Widow Mines, Symbol goes for 2 Evo Chambers and additional Queens and Drones


8:00-10:00min
Keen builds 2 E-Bays and tries to deny Creep with his Hellions but Symbol uses a Spine and 3 Queens to keep spreading
Keen attacks with a weird timing with 4 Widow Mines, 2 Reapers, 5 Marines with Stim and 6 Hellions

10:00-12:00min
Symbol gets caught off-guard with that timing and loses a lot of Zerglings and 13 Drones at his third base
Keen builds more Mines and Marines and starts his Starport while taking his 3rd base

Symbol builds lots of Lings and starts his Spire and Baneling Speed, his 2-2 starts a few seconds earlier than Keen's


12:00-14:00min
Keen tries to deny some creep with Marines and Mines but Symbol uses good Zergling micro and an Overseer to push him back
Symbol builds a bunch of Mutas and +1 air attack and starts his 4th and his Infestation Pit
Keen tries to attack with Marines, Medivacs and Mines but Symbol is able to catch him off-guard and kills lots of Mines and Marines with some Banelings while harassing with the Mutas

14:00-16:00min
Keen keeps reinforcing and pushing forward but Symbol has a lot of Ling-banelings out and uses his Mutas defensively as well
Symbol snipes Mines and small Marine packs with his Mutas and forces Keen back with his Banelings

16:00-18:00min
Symbol transitions to Hive and Ultralisks and starts 3-3 upgrades, Keen tries to continue pushing but Symbol is always able to push him back with Lings, Banes and Mutas
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
April 16 2013 11:21 GMT
#857
The weird thing is that people always emphasize widow mines that get killed off, and probably rightfully so, because they're quite dangerous if left alive. But in terms of cost... it's really nothing special. I mean they cost as much as a Roach :/
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
April 16 2013 11:23 GMT
#858
Wow, Symbol is actually teching up and spreading his other creep during all of this. So on point man!
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
April 16 2013 11:23 GMT
#859
keens macro so good
yo
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
April 16 2013 11:23 GMT
#860
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