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[MLG] Huk vs MKP - Winter Exhibition ro8 - Day 2

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iS.Axslav
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 21:46:57
April 05 2013 18:47 GMT
#1
During the MLG Winter Exhibition, the fallen from Round 1 of the (Wiki)2013 MLG Winter Championship have a been a granted second chance. This is the consolation bracket that will be broadcasted every day over the next few weeks. Tune in and watch every match at www.majorleaguegaming.com and on Twitch.TV.

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Week 1 Schedule/VODS
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MarineKing vs Seed - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Bly vs Suppy - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Vibe vs State - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Huk vs BabyKnight - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Minigun vs Creator - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Sase vs Goswser - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 P1 Game 3 P2 Game 4 Game 5
Bly vs Vibe - Game 1 Game 2 Game 3 Game 4 Game 5
Friday, Apr 05 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) - MKP vs Huk
Monday, Apr 08 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) - herO vs Sase
Tuesday, Apr 09 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) - Creator vs ThorZaiN
Wednesday, Apr 10 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) - Semifinal 1
Thursday, Apr 11 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) - Semifinal 2
Friday, Apr 12 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) - Finals


Tonight's match:
(P)HuK vs (T)MKP


www.majorleaguegaming.com

Results
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Game 1
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Map: Cloud Kingdom
Winner: MarineKing


Game 2
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Map: Whirlwind
Winner: MarineKing


Game 3
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Map: Neo Planet S
Winner: MarineKing


Game 4 (if necessary)
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Map: Not Necessary MarineKing won 3-0
Winner:


Game 5 (if necessary)
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Map: Not Necessary MarineKing won 3-0
Winner:



Map Pool
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Akilon Wastes
Cloud Kingdom
Daybreak
Newkirk City
Planet S
Star Station
Whirlwind


Format
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16 Player Single Elimination Bracket, Best of five games


Prize
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The winner of the Winter Exhibition will receive $1000. The runner up wins $500.


Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 20:39:21
April 05 2013 18:50 GMT
#2
easiest games of MKP's career.

3-0 in 30 min.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
April 05 2013 18:51 GMT
#3
On April 06 2013 03:50 Mensol wrote:
easiest games of MKP's carrier.

3-0 in 30 min.

Terran cannot build Carriers.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
April 05 2013 18:58 GMT
#4
On April 06 2013 03:51 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 03:50 Mensol wrote:
easiest games of MKP's carrier.

3-0 in 30 min.

Terran cannot build Carriers.

That's why they're better
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
April 05 2013 19:04 GMT
#5
Huk...

Mkp...

Three triple rum+coke...

Two quadruple gin+tonic...

One beer...

Definitely a top 20 evening of all time.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 05 2013 20:27 GMT
#6
gogo mkp~
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
April 05 2013 20:28 GMT
#7
On April 06 2013 03:50 Mensol wrote:
easiest games of MKP's careier.

3-0 in 30 min.


lol'd xd
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
April 05 2013 20:33 GMT
#8
On April 06 2013 03:50 Mensol wrote:
easiest games of MKP's careier.

3-0 in 30 min.


True words sir. One would think huk should even throw in the towel and forfeit this series before it starts
-,-
Depeche Mode
Profile Joined March 2013
22 Posts
April 05 2013 20:53 GMT
#9
HuK might take a game or two, if he doesn't do some kind of weird 7-gate build or whatever it is he does in every match up, he seems addicted to them.
härstårnågotunderbart
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 05 2013 21:05 GMT
#10
gateway allins are huk's dragons.
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 05 2013 21:05 GMT
#11
I hope Huk isnt still stuck in late 2010, perhaps HotS was the right thing to bring him up to date!
"NO" -Has
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
April 05 2013 21:13 GMT
#12
Gogo MKP
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MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
April 05 2013 21:14 GMT
#13
wtf was that game pulling 6 probes as a reaction to cc first?
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
April 05 2013 21:14 GMT
#14
well well that went well
-,-
Isaac
Profile Joined August 2010
United States810 Posts
April 05 2013 21:15 GMT
#15
I can't tell(no sound on my pc, but is this series over?)
number one fan of marineking
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
April 05 2013 21:17 GMT
#16
On April 06 2013 06:15 Isaac wrote:
I can't tell(no sound on my pc, but is this series over?)

Depends how you mean "over". They still have to play a minimum of two more games.
"NO" -Has
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 05 2013 21:17 GMT
#17
On April 06 2013 06:15 Isaac wrote:
I can't tell(no sound on my pc, but is this series over?)

technically not yet, it's MKP 1-0 HUK
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
April 05 2013 21:21 GMT
#18
2 of my top 3 fav players! This is definitely an uphill battle for Huk.
In the rear with the gear!
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
April 05 2013 21:26 GMT
#19
Huk wtf are you doing...
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
April 05 2013 21:26 GMT
#20
Well.... At this point I just hope Huk wins takes a game.
In the rear with the gear!
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
April 05 2013 21:27 GMT
#21
Anyone care to update for those of us at work? <3
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
Gnomie
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark39 Posts
April 05 2013 21:27 GMT
#22
Wow I love HuK, but this is kinda hard to watch, MKP is sooooo good!
"I can beat IdrA in a real game. Without real units." - HuK
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 05 2013 21:28 GMT
#23
Game 1: CC first for MKP, huk tries to probe rush and delays it a smidge, follows up with a 4gate that doesn't work and eventually dies.

Game 2: CC first for MKP, huk expands and goes blink and attack upgrade before colossus, MKP gets stim and medivacs, presses T and wins.
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
April 05 2013 21:28 GMT
#24
2-0 mkp. First game was a failed 4 gate by Huk (not all in) into a big bio counter by MKP.. Second game Huk lost to the 10min Bio Medivac push.
In the rear with the gear!
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
April 05 2013 21:29 GMT
#25
Pretty good description by Tayar yeah.
In the rear with the gear!
Fake)Plants
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States373 Posts
April 05 2013 21:30 GMT
#26
Sort of seems like HuK killed himself in this series :/
Q( ' '(Q
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
April 05 2013 21:30 GMT
#27
Hope we dont get another 3-0. Yesterday was a very quick series too.
In the rear with the gear!
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
April 05 2013 21:31 GMT
#28
Spontaneous and ever-so-slightly inappropriate hugs to all those sharing this broadcast. I'm just in one of those 'get the hell off me you weird old dude' moods.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
M.R. McThundercrotch
Profile Joined June 2012
United States265 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 21:33:44
April 05 2013 21:33 GMT
#29
This is hard to watch for any Huk fans, but not entirely surprising, really.

Online tournaments should just mail MKP a trophy let everyone else play it out.
On June 30 2012 01:42 iNcontroL wrote: Fuck a lot of you. Fuck you forever.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 05 2013 21:34 GMT
#30
is the neutral supply depot raised on this map? i'm pretty sure that defeats the purpose. or my eyes are terrible, iduno.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
April 05 2013 21:35 GMT
#31
Thundercrotch! Where the hell were you when my parents were choosing baby names?
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 21:42:45
April 05 2013 21:40 GMT
#32
Now that's an interesting exchange.

EDIT: Ah, not so much in light of economic context. Ehh.....

EDIT EDIT: ffs I ran a bath for this.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 05 2013 21:42 GMT
#33
On April 06 2013 03:50 Mensol wrote:
easiest games of MKP's career.

3-0 in 30 min.

It was easy to predict.

i can't wait to see HuK's proleague game.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
jekku
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1640 Posts
April 05 2013 21:42 GMT
#34
WOW! This is gruesome.
In the rear with the gear!
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#35
for those at work:

Game 3: MKP opens reaper expand, Huk shows the scouting reaper 2gate/robo before expand, kills the reaper, cancels a gate and expands.

MKP reads aggression and delays moving his CC to natural and builds a few tanks.

Both players transition into macro, Huk going colossus first and MKP getting his 3rd + dbl upgrades. MKP pushes with his tanks and get rebuffed, losing them both but getting a substantial lead by trading well and having a much earlier 3rd.

Huk transition into storm but is ~60 supply down and loses his 3rd for nothing. MKP attacks with a nice flank up 80ish supply and wins handily.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
April 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#36
MKP just steamrolled Huk twice and went over him a third time for good meassure.
Pokemon Master
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
April 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#37
On April 06 2013 06:42 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 03:50 Mensol wrote:
easiest games of MKP's career.

3-0 in 30 min.

It was easy to predict.

i can't wait to see HuK's proleague game.


haha i second that
-,-
scsnow
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovenia515 Posts
April 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#38
omg that was one sided.
and people want to see worse than huk vs worse than huk?
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
April 05 2013 21:44 GMT
#39
What a beatdown Oo
i lol'ed when MKP was 100 supply up
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
April 05 2013 21:45 GMT
#40
yea that wasn't even slightly competitive.
BabyRomatic
Profile Joined December 2012
259 Posts
April 05 2013 21:45 GMT
#41
one-sided match
[Woongjin Stars]
mengsk83
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-05 21:46:56
April 05 2013 21:46 GMT
#42
well MKP just produced 190 supply in the time it took HuK to produce 100 supply. That was very onesided. TT
RookUK
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United Kingdom283 Posts
April 05 2013 21:52 GMT
#43
On April 06 2013 06:44 Seiniyta wrote:
MKP just steamrolled Huk twice and went over him a third time for good meassure.


Couldn't have put it better myself. Pretty merciless stuff there by Monsieur MarineKing - great to watch, though.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
April 05 2013 22:04 GMT
#44
I honestly think there are too few professional strata for this game. In football, there's no shame in lower league teams being unable to take down Man U or Chelsea. Similarly, there are players who can deliver nail-biting, entertaining pro-level SC2 games without being Flash or Life. In this series, Huk was *a little bit* behind MKP, and got stomped for it. There would be something wrong if every football team was judged on its ability to win the Champion's League.

I suppose the problem with esports as a whole is that there are few reasons to get behind any given player. The very fact it's net-based precludes the regional grass-roots support terrestrial sports receive. Personally, I get a kick out of TL players winning, Stephano because I get him, and Flash vs Life because it's like Morpheus vs Neo - I don't actually care who wins. It's tough for someone who's merely better than 99% of the people who play the game to gather a following.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
April 05 2013 22:56 GMT
#45
On April 06 2013 07:04 Umpteen wrote:
I honestly think there are too few professional strata for this game. In football, there's no shame in lower league teams being unable to take down Man U or Chelsea. Similarly, there are players who can deliver nail-biting, entertaining pro-level SC2 games without being Flash or Life. In this series, Huk was *a little bit* behind MKP, and got stomped for it. There would be something wrong if every football team was judged on its ability to win the Champion's League.

I suppose the problem with esports as a whole is that there are few reasons to get behind any given player. The very fact it's net-based precludes the regional grass-roots support terrestrial sports receive. Personally, I get a kick out of TL players winning, Stephano because I get him, and Flash vs Life because it's like Morpheus vs Neo - I don't actually care who wins. It's tough for someone who's merely better than 99% of the people who play the game to gather a following.


It's a different sport; different community. In the NFL, you'll be treated as the worst team of all fucking time if you lose by even one touchdown in the Super Bowl.

"Who has the best durability feat in all of comic book superheroes?" "Aquaman surviving pop culture."
-JoKeR-
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada387 Posts
April 05 2013 23:21 GMT
#46
Link to vods?
Dr. Waffles
Profile Joined May 2012
United States16 Posts
April 05 2013 23:38 GMT
#47
On April 06 2013 08:21 -JoKeR- wrote:
Link to vods?

VODs aren't up yet but when they are they will be here.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 05 2013 23:43 GMT
#48
On April 06 2013 07:04 Umpteen wrote:
I honestly think there are too few professional strata for this game. In football, there's no shame in lower league teams being unable to take down Man U or Chelsea. Similarly, there are players who can deliver nail-biting, entertaining pro-level SC2 games without being Flash or Life. In this series, Huk was *a little bit* behind MKP, and got stomped for it. There would be something wrong if every football team was judged on its ability to win the Champion's League.

I suppose the problem with esports as a whole is that there are few reasons to get behind any given player. The very fact it's net-based precludes the regional grass-roots support terrestrial sports receive. Personally, I get a kick out of TL players winning, Stephano because I get him, and Flash vs Life because it's like Morpheus vs Neo - I don't actually care who wins. It's tough for someone who's merely better than 99% of the people who play the game to gather a following.

Well I'm 100% behind MarineKing no matter what, and for a long time now. Good games or bad games, MLG championships or Jjakji 0-3, I'll be here, supporting him.
Just to prove you wrong :D
bearzly
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada184 Posts
April 06 2013 02:06 GMT
#49
The most notable thing about that series was that marineking made a ghost academy. He didn't make any ghosts, but that's the first ghost academy he has made in months
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 06 2013 02:35 GMT
#50
On April 06 2013 07:04 Umpteen wrote:
I honestly think there are too few professional strata for this game. In football, there's no shame in lower league teams being unable to take down Man U or Chelsea. Similarly, there are players who can deliver nail-biting, entertaining pro-level SC2 games without being Flash or Life. In this series, Huk was *a little bit* behind MKP, and got stomped for it. There would be something wrong if every football team was judged on its ability to win the Champion's League.

i'd say huk is a fair amount behind MKP though, not just a little bit
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 06 2013 02:44 GMT
#51
Oh man, I just saw this. How tragic is fate. After getting publicly thrashed by BoguS he plays MKP in consolations.

I can't stop laughing am I a bad person?
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
April 06 2013 02:46 GMT
#52
--- Nuked ---
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
April 06 2013 02:52 GMT
#53
MK
rip prime
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 06 2013 03:02 GMT
#54
On April 06 2013 06:33 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
This is hard to watch for any Huk fans, but not entirely surprising, really.

Online tournaments should just mail MKP a trophy let everyone else play it out.

This whole "exhibition" thing was all played at the last MLG, just saved for later content (now)
Refer to my post.
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
April 06 2013 03:07 GMT
#55
I feel you but have 2 things

a) HuK used to be quite good and MKP has been slumping, maybe if Huk was in his prime he would have won this
b) Its totally crazy to say that a team that loses by 1 TD in Super Bowl is disrespected like a lot of foreign players do every friggin time they lose. Every 49ers fan I know was saddened but didn't curse out their team, mostly both teams are treated well even the loser, the only one in my lifetime might be the Giants vs. Pats where they went undefeated and after Manning threw the Tyree Catch people gave them hell after that.

Honestly this is why we should be more regional though, Huk could probably be okay if only facing NA players but a good Korean makes him look silly like today. Sometimes I see brilliance in Huk though, kinda rooting for him to get better.
408xParadox
Profile Joined December 2011
United States140 Posts
April 06 2013 03:39 GMT
#56
Dissapointed after it looks like huk has been playing very well on the korean server recently. I have noticed that his t v p looks like his worst matchup. Whats funny is that it looks like his control is what really kills him. He and the terran will have maxed armies and the terran just roflstomps huk every time.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
April 06 2013 03:59 GMT
#57
On April 06 2013 11:35 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 07:04 Umpteen wrote:
I honestly think there are too few professional strata for this game. In football, there's no shame in lower league teams being unable to take down Man U or Chelsea. Similarly, there are players who can deliver nail-biting, entertaining pro-level SC2 games without being Flash or Life. In this series, Huk was *a little bit* behind MKP, and got stomped for it. There would be something wrong if every football team was judged on its ability to win the Champion's League.

i'd say huk is a fair amount behind MKP though, not just a little bit


Yeah... Huk is more than "a little" behind MKP.
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
April 06 2013 08:45 GMT
#58
On April 06 2013 08:43 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 07:04 Umpteen wrote:
I honestly think there are too few professional strata for this game. In football, there's no shame in lower league teams being unable to take down Man U or Chelsea. Similarly, there are players who can deliver nail-biting, entertaining pro-level SC2 games without being Flash or Life. In this series, Huk was *a little bit* behind MKP, and got stomped for it. There would be something wrong if every football team was judged on its ability to win the Champion's League.

I suppose the problem with esports as a whole is that there are few reasons to get behind any given player. The very fact it's net-based precludes the regional grass-roots support terrestrial sports receive. Personally, I get a kick out of TL players winning, Stephano because I get him, and Flash vs Life because it's like Morpheus vs Neo - I don't actually care who wins. It's tough for someone who's merely better than 99% of the people who play the game to gather a following.

Well I'm 100% behind MarineKing no matter what, and for a long time now. Good games or bad games, MLG championships or Jjakji 0-3, I'll be here, supporting him.
Just to prove you wrong :D


You wouldn't be behind him if he'd never had his high-profile run, though. That's my point. There's a very narrow window for players to garner support, and relatively few reasons to follow someone who never hits that window. The people I follow have nothing in common with me - do you see what I mean now?


The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
April 06 2013 12:45 GMT
#59
On April 06 2013 17:45 Umpteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 08:43 ZenithM wrote:
On April 06 2013 07:04 Umpteen wrote:
I honestly think there are too few professional strata for this game. In football, there's no shame in lower league teams being unable to take down Man U or Chelsea. Similarly, there are players who can deliver nail-biting, entertaining pro-level SC2 games without being Flash or Life. In this series, Huk was *a little bit* behind MKP, and got stomped for it. There would be something wrong if every football team was judged on its ability to win the Champion's League.

I suppose the problem with esports as a whole is that there are few reasons to get behind any given player. The very fact it's net-based precludes the regional grass-roots support terrestrial sports receive. Personally, I get a kick out of TL players winning, Stephano because I get him, and Flash vs Life because it's like Morpheus vs Neo - I don't actually care who wins. It's tough for someone who's merely better than 99% of the people who play the game to gather a following.

Well I'm 100% behind MarineKing no matter what, and for a long time now. Good games or bad games, MLG championships or Jjakji 0-3, I'll be here, supporting him.
Just to prove you wrong :D


You wouldn't be behind him if he'd never had his high-profile run, though. That's my point. There's a very narrow window for players to garner support, and relatively few reasons to follow someone who never hits that window. The people I follow have nothing in common with me - do you see what I mean now?



I can't speak for the rest of you buttholes, but I've been behind MarineKing since he split marines against Kyrix's banelings. That's basically just one televised play.

The whole concept of a home team or following people like you is a bit of a joke anyway. The home team in any given sport is usually made up of people from other countries. And it's not like you have a reason to be proud of the achievements of someone you have no connection to, regardless of whether they were born within a thousand kilometres of you or not.

I think the only meaningful thing that's missing is the social interaction which most people who follow e-sports probably can't even handle.
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
April 06 2013 12:54 GMT
#60
On April 06 2013 12:07 DeathProfessor wrote:



Honestly this is why we should be more regional though, Huk could probably be okay if only facing NA players but a good Korean makes him look silly like today. Sometimes I see brilliance in Huk though, kinda rooting for him to get better.



I think a scene isolated like in broodwar would be so much worse. Every tournament except GSL / Proleague / GSTL would be just boring.
love esports - hate homophobia
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
April 06 2013 13:02 GMT
#61
On April 06 2013 12:07 DeathProfessor wrote:
Honestly this is why we should be more regional though, Huk could probably be okay if only facing NA players but a good Korean makes him look silly like today. Sometimes I see brilliance in Huk though, kinda rooting for him to get better.

Why don't wet let Huk play only against Bronze Leaguers? He will look like a demi god then!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
April 06 2013 13:16 GMT
#62
On April 06 2013 17:45 Umpteen wrote:
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On April 06 2013 08:43 ZenithM wrote:
On April 06 2013 07:04 Umpteen wrote:
I honestly think there are too few professional strata for this game. In football, there's no shame in lower league teams being unable to take down Man U or Chelsea. Similarly, there are players who can deliver nail-biting, entertaining pro-level SC2 games without being Flash or Life. In this series, Huk was *a little bit* behind MKP, and got stomped for it. There would be something wrong if every football team was judged on its ability to win the Champion's League.

I suppose the problem with esports as a whole is that there are few reasons to get behind any given player. The very fact it's net-based precludes the regional grass-roots support terrestrial sports receive. Personally, I get a kick out of TL players winning, Stephano because I get him, and Flash vs Life because it's like Morpheus vs Neo - I don't actually care who wins. It's tough for someone who's merely better than 99% of the people who play the game to gather a following.

Well I'm 100% behind MarineKing no matter what, and for a long time now. Good games or bad games, MLG championships or Jjakji 0-3, I'll be here, supporting him.
Just to prove you wrong :D


You wouldn't be behind him if he'd never had his high-profile run, though. That's my point. There's a very narrow window for players to garner support, and relatively few reasons to follow someone who never hits that window. The people I follow have nothing in common with me - do you see what I mean now?



I've been behind MKP since even before I got to see him actually play.
WriterMaru
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 06 2013 13:40 GMT
#63
On April 06 2013 22:02 TeeTS wrote:
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On April 06 2013 12:07 DeathProfessor wrote:
Honestly this is why we should be more regional though, Huk could probably be okay if only facing NA players but a good Korean makes him look silly like today. Sometimes I see brilliance in Huk though, kinda rooting for him to get better.

Why don't wet let Huk play only against Bronze Leaguers? He will look like a demi god then!


Yeah, I don't understand how you can rationalize any white guy losing by saying: "Well, he had a good opponent."

Are we supposed to celebrate every time he beats a random scrub on ladder while ignoring all his losses against competent opponents?
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