EPT[GSTL] AZUBU vs. Prime 2013 Season 1 - Page 40
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Prior to the queen patch Symbol won the qualifier for Iron Squid, made it to the ro8, 3-0'd MKP, then 3-1'd Nestea, and finally lost 2-4 to MMA (MMA still had imba TvZ as well back then). That alone earns him recognition from me. He was also working his way up to code S, having already defeated sC and Seed, patch hit when he faced Jjakji to qualify. It's not the Zerg community that overhypes players exclusively, that's the sc2 community in general. Symbol, however, was right to be hyped. Aside from Life(who stole his thunder) I don't think anyone save for Squirlte had a higher peak performance than Symbol in 2012. The guy absolutely just exploded onto the scene. Reverse all-killed IM, made a MLG arena final, qualified for OSL, and barely got knocked out in the ro8 all while seemingly coming out of nowhere. The best part was, he did it in style too showcasing a variety of innovative play (which he doesn't do as much anymore :/ ) Even after Life, I might have even said Symbol has shown the best lategame of any Zerg. For me personally, I pulled a Fionn and went full-hipster the first time he squared off against IM. He didn't all-kill or anything but his playstyle led me to believe he'd be great in the future. so prepatch he had one good tournament run - there are a lot of players who do that and fall off, so it's not thaaattt notable i would contend that many many players had higher peaks than symbol in 2012. taeja, marineking, dongraegu, rain, creator, parting, life, leenock | ||
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wozzot
United States1227 Posts
So glad to see that SC2 is watchable again | ||
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
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ducken
Australia63 Posts
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:38 FakeDeath wrote: But is it worth the investment? Answer is no. You never go SH against Bio. Even roach/hydra or muta ling is better. SH is good against Terran mech. Hey man, it's obvious that you've figured out the game so I guess I'll stop talking. Better go tell Life, Symbol, Jaedong, Monster, and every other Korean Zerg that swarm hosts are completely useless. And yes I've seen every single one of those players use swam hosts v Bio and not get dominated AT ALL. | ||
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:46 TimENT wrote: Hey man, it's obvious that you've figured out the game so I guess I'll stop talking. Better go tell Life, Symbol, Jaedong, Monster, and every other Korean Zerg that swarm hosts are completely useless. And yes I've seen every single one of those players use swam hosts v Bio and not get dominated AT ALL. Life doing swarm hosts? yeah, ¡if you say that, must be true. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
Was probably a mistake to take a flyer on him in fantasy for nostalgia. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:48 s3rp wrote: I wonder how good Ganzi is these days . When he was still on Slayers i considered him top be a Top10 Terran at the very least . Than he slowly fell off while on complexity and no i haven't see him play in ages. Does he still still struggle with injury ? I mean he couldn't have been worse to send out than San or Vines who are removed from their peaks for so long . i agree with VINES but san can be really freaking good when he wants to | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:46 TimENT wrote: Hey man, it's obvious that you've figured out the game so I guess I'll stop talking. Better go tell Life, Symbol, Jaedong, Monster, and every other Korean Zerg that swarm hosts are completely useless. And yes I've seen every single one of those players use swam hosts v Bio and not get dominated AT ALL. This is what I think. What is this opinion coming from? Their own games? I hate to break it to you but your games mean less than nothing and as this guy points out lots of top korean zergs have been using SH vs bio successfully. The game is hardly figured out so claiming certainly is pretty idiotic but its even worse when we are regularly seeing the top players use the unit successfully. Why im at it I hate the logic of "life lost to lasts mech using SH therefore its bad" when every good style losses. Bio tank losses to ling bane muta in WoL and the other way around and they were both awesome styles. Players lose, its a fact. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:48 s3rp wrote: I wonder how good Ganzi is these days . When he was still on Slayers i considered him top be a Top10 Terran at the very least . Than he slowly fell off while on complexity and now i haven't see him play in ages. Does he still still struggle with injury ? I mean he couldn't have been worse to send out than San or Vines who are removed from their peaks for so long . Was probably a mistake to take a flyer on him in fantasy for nostalgia. Did Vines ever had a peak? I'm more bummed my man Violet wasn't sent out. | ||
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Wingblade
United States1806 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:45 ducken wrote: I just realised that I have ByuN and Sound both on my fantasy GSTL Lol seriously? Now if you have Squirtle too, I think we just found who will be in first place for this week. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:50 opterown wrote: i agree with VINES but san can be really freaking good when he wants to Yeah but after his GSL Top 8 run he only showed flashes every blue moon . He qualified for OSL like out of nowhere . OSL was his first major tournament placement in ages back then. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:46 TimENT wrote: Hey man, it's obvious that you've figured out the game so I guess I'll stop talking. Better go tell Life, Symbol, Jaedong, Monster, and every other Korean Zerg that swarm hosts are completely useless. And yes I've seen every single one of those players use swam hosts v Bio and not get dominated AT ALL. lol.? Life did not make a single SH at all during his MLG run except that one game vs Last mech where he lost and only making a SH to bait mine shot. Life basically was playing WoL style all the way in the tournament (muta-ling into Bls/Ultras/Infestor with a bit of Viper in Game 1 vs Flash) and straight up beating everyone else because he was just better. SH doesn't fit Life style who like to be mobile and aggressive. | ||
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
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xuanzue
Colombia1747 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:46 TimENT wrote: Hey man, it's obvious that you've figured out the game so I guess I'll stop talking. Better go tell Life, Symbol, Jaedong, Monster, and every other Korean Zerg that swarm hosts are completely useless. And yes I've seen every single one of those players use swam hosts v Bio and not get dominated AT ALL. I want to see all those games of symbol and monster with SH. oh but those games don't exists. Jaedong, uses them often in ladder, but his w/r with them is not that good. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:50 ssxsilver wrote: Did Vines ever had a peak? I'm more bummed my man Violet wasn't sent out. Vines did well for a while after Creators 3-3 Upgrade Style became popular and no Terran really had an answer for a few weeks . It didn't last very long and he didn't actually win anything of notice but still had to be respected when send out . Not like today where his play was just terribad. | ||
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crawlingchaos
Canada2025 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:54 jubil wrote: Wow, I had considered trading for Byun this week for my fantasy team since I'm a fan of his, but figured he was too expensive, and after all he didn't look too hot in the up and downs.... all of a sudden he comes out guns blazing lol Same reason I ended up not picking him... ...I chose Bomber instead >:[ | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6169 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Don't bother, it's Die Hard but less believable. Watching the first game, kind want Barbie to get in and all kill someone, just to get a GIF of Khaldor and Wolf's reaction. (Yeah, yeah, Gerard's girlfriend, whatever. Nothing says she can't be the girlfriend AND kick a little ass. Sadly, I don't think that'll happen.) GO PRIME! Great start to the season. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On March 30 2013 15:56 s3rp wrote: Vines did well for a while after Creators 3-3 Upgrade Style became popular and no Terran really had an answer for a few weeks . It didn't last very long and he didn't actually win anything of notice but still had to be respected when send out . Not like today where his play was just terribad. Hah, I was just poking fun as Vines was one of the least remarkable WOL players for me. That's some impressive memory you have there! | ||
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