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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
March 17 2013 12:59 GMT
#161
On March 17 2013 21:58 nkr wrote:
does some1 know where to find the polt vs life vods?


on the twitch stream page. You have to subscribe though.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 13:01:07
March 17 2013 13:00 GMT
#162
On March 17 2013 21:59 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:58 nkr wrote:
does some1 know where to find the polt vs life vods?


on the twitch stream page. You have to subscribe though.


You don't have to? :o

http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/videos/100030-life-vs-polt-game-1-round-of-16-mlg-dallas-2013

Here you go. On the right side there are the others. Game 4 is sick
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
gamerdude12345
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)378 Posts
March 17 2013 13:02 GMT
#163
On March 17 2013 21:52 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.

Trollers gonna troll


I think he was being sarcastic

Anyways, day 3 looks super good. 3 TvPs and a TvZ featuring life. One of my biggest complaints should be solved today (too many 3-0 / games aren't close enough) but hopefully they can move the caster desk so I don't have to listen to annoying fans booing someone during the cast.
'One does not simply walk into Mordor"
berndniph
Profile Joined April 2011
95 Posts
March 17 2013 13:03 GMT
#164
just looked the huk interview.
they spoke about some sort of consolation matches.
is there any real bracket about them ?
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
March 17 2013 13:04 GMT
#165
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.


hmm, except SaSe no one was even close to take a series against a high tier korean imo, and he was somewhat nervous, and couldnt capitalize from his advantage.

its called the foreigner curse, :S
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 17 2013 13:05 GMT
#166
On March 17 2013 21:54 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.

You can watch your second rate foreigner play SC2 on a live stream, most of us want to see the best of the best


Define "most of us".

I mean, I agree with you. I'd rather watch the best of the best, and its usually koreans.

But there's no denying that foreigners bring in the numbers. Big time. So I imagine "most" sc2 viewers at some level feel the same as Visas.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
March 17 2013 13:06 GMT
#167
On March 17 2013 22:04 Inzan1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.


hmm, except SaSe no one was even close to take a series against a high tier korean imo, and he was somewhat nervous, and couldnt capitalize from his advantage.

its called the foreigner curse, :S


You say curse, I say painfully outclassed
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 17 2013 13:07 GMT
#168
On March 17 2013 21:56 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:52 LighT. wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.

Trollers gonna troll


Some people rather would have _insert any left korean_ 4-0 _insert any foreigner_ in the finals instead of having a good show. While I don't want to disregard foreigners with this statement, they are not close to Korea and I'd rather watch two "unknown" Koreans in any big final instead of a Korea vs non-Korea final which is over after half an our.

SaSe vs TaeJa were not so bad games and Bly made a good stand against Flash. SEn I only heard off wasn't too bad vs PartinG but yeah, we got those match ups left with only Koreans and I couldn't be more excited. All the match ups are actually so tough to call and could go either way, that its really thrilling. If people would stop hating on the Koreans and actually read into them and their scene they would probably enjoy a tournamnet a lot more.


A bit has to do with nationalism.
They want to cheer on the players from their country to show pride and all..and.because koreans are just flat out better than the foreigners
by the ro8 comes, usually all the foreigners are weeded out and it becomes a Korean vs Korean thing.
Instead of caring about where they come from, if you're a true fan of the game, you should be caring about the games themselves and the quality of it as they've been a treat to watch (Life vs Polt, Innovation vs Leenock, Bomber vs Goswser)

I can understand their point of view though...because when all koreans are eliminated (which never happens usually), I usually just tune out of the tournament unless its something special like Vortix vs Lucifron or something.

If that was a serious post about "old glory when they're invited less koreans", the person's completely delusional.
MLG Summer Championships and this tournament IS the glory era right now.
The last MLG and this one is arguably the best ones to date..and I've watched all the MLGs from the 2nd one onwards.
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 13:11:59
March 17 2013 13:08 GMT
#169
On March 17 2013 22:06 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 22:04 Inzan1ty wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.


hmm, except SaSe no one was even close to take a series against a high tier korean imo, and he was somewhat nervous, and couldnt capitalize from his advantage.

its called the foreigner curse, :S


You say curse, I say painfully outclassed


TaeJa vs SaSe wasnt outclassed by any means, go watch those games again..

The throws were painful tho, yes.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 17 2013 13:09 GMT
#170
On March 17 2013 22:05 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:54 TAMinator wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.

You can watch your second rate foreigner play SC2 on a live stream, most of us want to see the best of the best


Define "most of us".

I mean, I agree with you. I'd rather watch the best of the best, and its usually koreans.

But there's no denying that foreigners bring in the numbers. Big time. So I imagine "most" sc2 viewers at some level feel the same as Visas.


Lets see if an actual quarterfinal bracket with bo5 that all could be GSL finals being completely played in one day brings most viewers or a foreigner tournament. I would bet my ass that we will easily beat the numbers of yesterday
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
March 17 2013 13:10 GMT
#171

On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.


At least foreigners can take one or two maps from Korean, that's better than BW days.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
March 17 2013 13:11 GMT
#172
On March 17 2013 22:04 Inzan1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.


hmm, except SaSe no one was even close to take a series against a high tier korean imo, and he was somewhat nervous, and couldnt capitalize from his advantage.

its called the foreigner curse, :S


Goswser vs Bomber was actually quite close. Goswser probably would have won against a lesser (korean) Terran, but Bomber was just really good ^^
We know nothing.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 17 2013 13:12 GMT
#173
On March 17 2013 22:09 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 22:05 bittman wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:54 TAMinator wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.

You can watch your second rate foreigner play SC2 on a live stream, most of us want to see the best of the best


Define "most of us".

I mean, I agree with you. I'd rather watch the best of the best, and its usually koreans.

But there's no denying that foreigners bring in the numbers. Big time. So I imagine "most" sc2 viewers at some level feel the same as Visas.


Lets see if an actual quarterfinal bracket with bo5 that all could be GSL finals being completely played in one day brings most viewers or a foreigner tournament. I would bet my ass that we will easily beat the numbers of yesterday

but we can't deny that if last or someone was, instead, naniwa or stephano, we would easily get larger numbers
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 17 2013 13:12 GMT
#174
On March 17 2013 22:02 gamerdude12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:52 LighT. wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.

Trollers gonna troll


I think he was being sarcastic

Anyways, day 3 looks super good. 3 TvPs and a TvZ featuring life. One of my biggest complaints should be solved today (too many 3-0 / games aren't close enough) but hopefully they can move the caster desk so I don't have to listen to annoying fans booing someone during the cast.

Best part is that for the Ro4, there is a very high likelihood of a representative from each race.
Life is a heavy favorite vs Last (although..I cant tell if Last has been playing THAT impressive or the foreign counterparts have been just that bad..guessing its a bit of both)

There is no way.. of these 3 match ups:
Rain vs INnovation
Parting vs Flash
MC vs Bomber

that all Ps or all Ts are going to win. it'll be likely 2 of one race and 1 of the other.
Shaping up to be an A+ tournament in terms of quality, although the tournament deserves a C+ for the terrible delays.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 17 2013 13:14 GMT
#175
On March 17 2013 22:10 edgeOut wrote:

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.


At least foreigners can take one or two maps from Korean, that's better than BW days.

I remember taking one map off a korean was considered a huge feat
Foreigners have come a long way
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 13:17:41
March 17 2013 13:15 GMT
#176
On March 17 2013 22:12 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 22:09 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 17 2013 22:05 bittman wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:54 TAMinator wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.

You can watch your second rate foreigner play SC2 on a live stream, most of us want to see the best of the best


Define "most of us".

I mean, I agree with you. I'd rather watch the best of the best, and its usually koreans.

But there's no denying that foreigners bring in the numbers. Big time. So I imagine "most" sc2 viewers at some level feel the same as Visas.


Lets see if an actual quarterfinal bracket with bo5 that all could be GSL finals being completely played in one day brings most viewers or a foreigner tournament. I would bet my ass that we will easily beat the numbers of yesterday

but we can't deny that if last or someone was, instead, naniwa or stephano, we would easily get larger numbers


That is exactly what I am denying. You have to see the average, not a single match up. Life vs Naniwa probably would end in a 3-0 in no time and while I think Naniwa is an outstanding player if he brings his a-game and Life would be a tough match for even the best Protoss in the world, it would still be more interesting to see. If it would happen on a more regular basis that we would get a foreigner vs Korean quarterfinal or semifinal even we would have larger viewer numbers because its interesting. This way you can actually F5 30 minutes after the start and see a 3-0 most of the time.

Viewercount yesterday was 80 000? If today isn't 100 000 I really don't believe Starcraft itself has a lot of fans.

Edit: I would agree though that most of the people would stay up longer to watch a foreigner play instead of two Koreans regardless of the quality.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 13:18:29
March 17 2013 13:18 GMT
#177
Foreigners haven't really come a long way because they are totally different games. ._.

The xenophobia of this community shesh.

If I were winning and got booed I'd totally play off the crowd. "You guys can boo me all you want but at the end of the day that isn't going to stop me from coming on your soil and taking my share of the pie."
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
March 17 2013 13:19 GMT
#178
On March 17 2013 22:15 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 22:12 opterown wrote:
On March 17 2013 22:09 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 17 2013 22:05 bittman wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:54 TAMinator wrote:
On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.

You can watch your second rate foreigner play SC2 on a live stream, most of us want to see the best of the best


Define "most of us".

I mean, I agree with you. I'd rather watch the best of the best, and its usually koreans.

But there's no denying that foreigners bring in the numbers. Big time. So I imagine "most" sc2 viewers at some level feel the same as Visas.


Lets see if an actual quarterfinal bracket with bo5 that all could be GSL finals being completely played in one day brings most viewers or a foreigner tournament. I would bet my ass that we will easily beat the numbers of yesterday

but we can't deny that if last or someone was, instead, naniwa or stephano, we would easily get larger numbers


That is exactly what I am denying. You have to see the average, not a single match up. Life vs Naniwa probably would end in a 3-0 in no time and while I think Naniwa is an outstanding player if he brings his a-game and Life would be a tough match for even the best Protoss in the world, it would still be more interesting to see. If it would happen on a more regular basis that we would get a foreigner vs Korean quarterfinal or semifinal even we would have larger viewer numbers because its interesting. This way you can actually F5 30 minutes after the start and see a 3-0 most of the time.

Viewercount yesterday was 80 000? If today isn't 100 000 I really don't believe Starcraft itself has a lot of fans.

Edit: I would agree though that most of the people would stay up longer to watch a foreigner play instead of two Koreans regardless of the quality.

I have work :<..no way to catch the quarter finals and even one of the semi finals :<.....
but yes..
last is a party pooper.
he did it in the OSL, now he's doing it again in MLG.
Wouldnt be surprised if he played spoiler and somehow won it all
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
March 17 2013 13:21 GMT
#179
On March 17 2013 21:54 Daogin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 21:53 Headnoob wrote:
Give me games better than what we've had so far, a tall order.

I dont think their will be any game that beats the bomber and gosuuser game, unless bomber pulls something out of his ass against MC

it's more a question if MC can keep up with Bomber
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
March 17 2013 13:21 GMT
#180
On March 17 2013 22:14 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 22:10 edgeOut wrote:

On March 17 2013 21:48 Visas wrote:
pff all koreans again. This game can only revive to its old glory when they start inviting much less koreans for mlg imo.


At least foreigners can take one or two maps from Korean, that's better than BW days.

I remember taking one map off a korean was considered a huge feat
Foreigners have come a long way


thats why some people are waiting for Warcraft 4

foreigners stand a better chance
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
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