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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Vorkreist
Profile Joined February 2013
21 Posts
March 17 2013 10:33 GMT
#81
I'm sorry guys but parting will win it all.
"One phoenix is like the sound of one hand clapping, it's not very much." - Artosis
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
March 17 2013 10:36 GMT
#82
                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
Life 36.71% 29.26% 22.72% 11.30%
PartinG 22.53% 20.74% 24.93% 31.80%
Bomber 16.91% 6.93% 57.97% 18.19%
Rain 14.34% 19.05% 36.02% 30.59%
Flash 3.28% 9.47% 19.06% 68.20%
INnoVation 2.89% 7.69% 20.00% 69.41%
MC 2.49% 4.28% 11.41% 81.81%
Last 0.84% 2.57% 7.89% 88.70%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

To those interested, I left out anything but the last players, please remember that this is mostly based on WoL and Kespa pros are a lot more "hidden" from the general population.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
SSVnormandy
Profile Joined July 2012
France392 Posts
March 17 2013 10:37 GMT
#83
For people that complain about balance saying there is only 1 zerg in quarter final. Just remember this

at the begining of the tourney :

2 korean zerg.
9 korean terran.
6 korean protoss.


Semi-final

1 korean zerg
3 korean protoss
4 korean terran

Semi-final=1/2*begining korean player seems pretty fair to me.
We can't jump yet on some conclusion regarding tournament results.

Stephano is just raging as us french guys love to do so !
Battlecruisers.... Just Battlecruisers...
gamerdude12345
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)378 Posts
March 17 2013 10:39 GMT
#84
Foreigners are 5-36 vs Koreans in this tournament so far. Huk has said that SC2 is becoming like BW, to the point where no foreigner can stand up and beat the Koreans.

Is this the end of the foreigner scene?
'One does not simply walk into Mordor"
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 17 2013 10:39 GMT
#85
On March 17 2013 19:37 SSVnormandy wrote:
For people that complain about balance saying there is only 1 zerg in quarter final. Just remember this

at the begining of the tourney :

2 korean zerg.
9 korean terran.
6 korean protoss.


Semi-final

1 korean zerg
3 korean protoss
4 korean terran

Semi-final=1/2*begining korean player seems pretty fair to me.
We can't jump yet on some conclusion regarding tournament results.

Stephano is just raging as us french guys love to do so !


Yet you forget to count mirror matchups.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 10:40:02
March 17 2013 10:39 GMT
#86
On March 17 2013 19:36 Grovbolle wrote:
                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
Life 36.71% 29.26% 22.72% 11.30%
PartinG 22.53% 20.74% 24.93% 31.80%
Bomber 16.91% 6.93% 57.97% 18.19%
Rain 14.34% 19.05% 36.02% 30.59%
Flash 3.28% 9.47% 19.06% 68.20%
INnoVation 2.89% 7.69% 20.00% 69.41%
MC 2.49% 4.28% 11.41% 81.81%
Last 0.84% 2.57% 7.89% 88.70%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

To those interested, I left out anything but the last players, please remember that this is mostly based on WoL and Kespa pros are a lot more "hidden" from the general population.


Innovation 2%?

This is completely useless. Statistical methods are supposed to help when quantifying stuff is to complicated to do subjectively. If you can't improve the methodology, aligulac is just a waste of time.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
March 17 2013 10:40 GMT
#87
On March 17 2013 19:08 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 18:50 DOUDOU wrote:
can't find tthe vods of life-polt on http://tv.majorleaguegaming.com/playlists/210-starcraft-ii-dallas?page=1

anyone?

i can only assume it was great


Polt vs Life

Not sure if it's going auto to game 2 etc, if not on the right side you can see game 2 and select from there.

thank you :D (15 internet points for you)
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 17 2013 10:41 GMT
#88
On March 17 2013 19:39 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:36 Grovbolle wrote:
                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
Life 36.71% 29.26% 22.72% 11.30%
PartinG 22.53% 20.74% 24.93% 31.80%
Bomber 16.91% 6.93% 57.97% 18.19%
Rain 14.34% 19.05% 36.02% 30.59%
Flash 3.28% 9.47% 19.06% 68.20%
INnoVation 2.89% 7.69% 20.00% 69.41%
MC 2.49% 4.28% 11.41% 81.81%
Last 0.84% 2.57% 7.89% 88.70%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

To those interested, I left out anything but the last players, please remember that this is mostly based on WoL and Kespa pros are a lot more "hidden" from the general population.


Innovation 2%?

This is completely useless. Statistical methods are supposed to help when quantifying stuff is to complicated to do subjectively. If you can't improve the methodology, aligulac is just a waste of time.


Last getting 0.84% is even worse. He looked clean calculated and abusive as hell, he's going top 3 atleast
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
March 17 2013 10:42 GMT
#89
On March 17 2013 19:41 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:39 Hider wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:36 Grovbolle wrote:
                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
Life 36.71% 29.26% 22.72% 11.30%
PartinG 22.53% 20.74% 24.93% 31.80%
Bomber 16.91% 6.93% 57.97% 18.19%
Rain 14.34% 19.05% 36.02% 30.59%
Flash 3.28% 9.47% 19.06% 68.20%
INnoVation 2.89% 7.69% 20.00% 69.41%
MC 2.49% 4.28% 11.41% 81.81%
Last 0.84% 2.57% 7.89% 88.70%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

To those interested, I left out anything but the last players, please remember that this is mostly based on WoL and Kespa pros are a lot more "hidden" from the general population.


Innovation 2%?

This is completely useless. Statistical methods are supposed to help when quantifying stuff is to complicated to do subjectively. If you can't improve the methodology, aligulac is just a waste of time.


Last getting 0.84% is even worse. He looked clean calculated and abusive as hell, he's going top 3 atleast


Oh yeah. And he really has all the statistics to back it up. I mean he has SPL.

..

..and then OSL.

I don't know what people think the Aligulac is doing? Watching the games and making estimates?
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
March 17 2013 10:43 GMT
#90
On March 17 2013 19:39 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:37 SSVnormandy wrote:
For people that complain about balance saying there is only 1 zerg in quarter final. Just remember this

at the begining of the tourney :

2 korean zerg.
9 korean terran.
6 korean protoss.


Semi-final

1 korean zerg
3 korean protoss
4 korean terran

Semi-final=1/2*begining korean player seems pretty fair to me.
We can't jump yet on some conclusion regarding tournament results.

Stephano is just raging as us french guys love to do so !


Yet you forget to count mirror matchups.

Not really relevant to his point.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 17 2013 10:48 GMT
#91
On March 17 2013 19:29 skatblast wrote:
That stephano interview on slashers page is kind of disappointing. Saying he lost passion for the game. Hopefully he regains it.


Isn't that surprising tbh he was always in it for the money and would leave to get his doctors degree when things got sour for him.
His stay in Korea was really hard on him and to add on it Zerg is in a dark hole.
The curse is real
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 10:56:59
March 17 2013 10:49 GMT
#92
On March 17 2013 19:39 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:36 Grovbolle wrote:
                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
Life 36.71% 29.26% 22.72% 11.30%
PartinG 22.53% 20.74% 24.93% 31.80%
Bomber 16.91% 6.93% 57.97% 18.19%
Rain 14.34% 19.05% 36.02% 30.59%
Flash 3.28% 9.47% 19.06% 68.20%
INnoVation 2.89% 7.69% 20.00% 69.41%
MC 2.49% 4.28% 11.41% 81.81%
Last 0.84% 2.57% 7.89% 88.70%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

To those interested, I left out anything but the last players, please remember that this is mostly based on WoL and Kespa pros are a lot more "hidden" from the general population.


Innovation 2%?

This is completely useless. Statistical methods are supposed to help when quantifying stuff is to complicated to do subjectively. If you can't improve the methodology, aligulac is just a waste of time.


Based on what?

I agree that innovation is underrated in this, but we can't just magically up his rating. It will rise as his results improves. He loses to too many randoms in SPL. Plus we are still waiting for points to "transfer" to kespa players, but since they are very isolated (most only play proleague) it takes time. Please untwist your panties and chill, nobody forces anyone to use it.

And no that is not what statistical methods are used for, plus this is "raw" stats, the interpretation is up to you, plus I already stated that currently the system is very shaky (due to the change from WoL to HotS).

Plus this Terran surge is based a lot on HotS, of which we have very few matches.

In regards to Last, please tell me which historical data that indicates that he is a beast of another world:
http://aligulac.com/players/137-Last/results/
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 17 2013 10:51 GMT
#93
Pretty awesome matches. :o
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 17 2013 10:52 GMT
#94
On March 17 2013 19:42 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:41 Lysanias wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:39 Hider wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:36 Grovbolle wrote:
                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
Life 36.71% 29.26% 22.72% 11.30%
PartinG 22.53% 20.74% 24.93% 31.80%
Bomber 16.91% 6.93% 57.97% 18.19%
Rain 14.34% 19.05% 36.02% 30.59%
Flash 3.28% 9.47% 19.06% 68.20%
INnoVation 2.89% 7.69% 20.00% 69.41%
MC 2.49% 4.28% 11.41% 81.81%
Last 0.84% 2.57% 7.89% 88.70%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

To those interested, I left out anything but the last players, please remember that this is mostly based on WoL and Kespa pros are a lot more "hidden" from the general population.


Innovation 2%?

This is completely useless. Statistical methods are supposed to help when quantifying stuff is to complicated to do subjectively. If you can't improve the methodology, aligulac is just a waste of time.


Last getting 0.84% is even worse. He looked clean calculated and abusive as hell, he's going top 3 atleast


Oh yeah. And he really has all the statistics to back it up. I mean he has SPL.

..

..and then OSL.

I don't know what people think the Aligulac is doing? Watching the games and making estimates?


Seems like they fully base this of WoL GSL results and perhaps pref MLG's.
As you said Last has been doing well for a while now it's just that he's not in the foreign spotlight. (well after this MLG that's going to change rapitly ofc)
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
March 17 2013 10:54 GMT
#95
On March 17 2013 19:48 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:29 skatblast wrote:
That stephano interview on slashers page is kind of disappointing. Saying he lost passion for the game. Hopefully he regains it.


Isn't that surprising tbh he was always in it for the money and would leave to get his doctors degree when things got sour for him.
His stay in Korea was really hard on him and to add on it Zerg is in a dark hole.


he was never studying for a doctor, he was going for a business degree if I remember it correctly.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
March 17 2013 10:54 GMT
#96
On March 17 2013 19:52 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:42 bittman wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:41 Lysanias wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:39 Hider wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:36 Grovbolle wrote:
                      Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    
--------------------------------------------------------
Life 36.71% 29.26% 22.72% 11.30%
PartinG 22.53% 20.74% 24.93% 31.80%
Bomber 16.91% 6.93% 57.97% 18.19%
Rain 14.34% 19.05% 36.02% 30.59%
Flash 3.28% 9.47% 19.06% 68.20%
INnoVation 2.89% 7.69% 20.00% 69.41%
MC 2.49% 4.28% 11.41% 81.81%
Last 0.84% 2.57% 7.89% 88.70%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

To those interested, I left out anything but the last players, please remember that this is mostly based on WoL and Kespa pros are a lot more "hidden" from the general population.


Innovation 2%?

This is completely useless. Statistical methods are supposed to help when quantifying stuff is to complicated to do subjectively. If you can't improve the methodology, aligulac is just a waste of time.


Last getting 0.84% is even worse. He looked clean calculated and abusive as hell, he's going top 3 atleast


Oh yeah. And he really has all the statistics to back it up. I mean he has SPL.

..

..and then OSL.

I don't know what people think the Aligulac is doing? Watching the games and making estimates?


Seems like they fully base this of WoL GSL results and perhaps pref MLG's.
As you said Last has been doing well for a while now it's just that he's not in the foreign spotlight. (well after this MLG that's going to change rapitly ofc)


GSL results and MLG's??? Are you shitting me???

Please don't talk about what we base this on if you haven't checked.
I'll list a few for you: GSL, OSL, SPL, GSTL, IPL, IPTL, MLG, DH, IEM, KSL, RSL, HSV, Iron Squid, WCG, BWC etc.
Plus a few cups: Go4SC2, Zotac, MSI, ESV etc.

http://aligulac.com/results/events/
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
March 17 2013 10:55 GMT
#97
What an amazing tournament, MLG is awesome.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-17 10:56:12
March 17 2013 10:56 GMT
#98
On March 17 2013 19:54 GunSec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:48 Tobblish wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:29 skatblast wrote:
That stephano interview on slashers page is kind of disappointing. Saying he lost passion for the game. Hopefully he regains it.


Isn't that surprising tbh he was always in it for the money and would leave to get his doctors degree when things got sour for him.
His stay in Korea was really hard on him and to add on it Zerg is in a dark hole.


he was never studying for a doctor, he was going for a business degree if I remember it correctly.


Oh never heard about that, everyone have always talked about the doctor thing.
The curse is real
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 17 2013 11:01 GMT
#99
On March 17 2013 19:56 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:54 GunSec wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:48 Tobblish wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:29 skatblast wrote:
That stephano interview on slashers page is kind of disappointing. Saying he lost passion for the game. Hopefully he regains it.


Isn't that surprising tbh he was always in it for the money and would leave to get his doctors degree when things got sour for him.
His stay in Korea was really hard on him and to add on it Zerg is in a dark hole.


he was never studying for a doctor, he was going for a business degree if I remember it correctly.


Oh never heard about that, everyone have always talked about the doctor thing.

Yeah, it's all I've seen people mention as well, casters as well as people here on the forum. :o Aside from that, not sure how much passion Stephano had to lose to begin with, haha, or at least if you believe what he says it's not a lot.
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
March 17 2013 11:07 GMT
#100
On March 17 2013 20:01 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 19:56 Tobblish wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:54 GunSec wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:48 Tobblish wrote:
On March 17 2013 19:29 skatblast wrote:
That stephano interview on slashers page is kind of disappointing. Saying he lost passion for the game. Hopefully he regains it.


Isn't that surprising tbh he was always in it for the money and would leave to get his doctors degree when things got sour for him.
His stay in Korea was really hard on him and to add on it Zerg is in a dark hole.


he was never studying for a doctor, he was going for a business degree if I remember it correctly.


Oh never heard about that, everyone have always talked about the doctor thing.

Yeah, it's all I've seen people mention as well, casters as well as people here on the forum. :o Aside from that, not sure how much passion Stephano had to lose to begin with, haha, or at least if you believe what he says it's not a lot.


Well I remember he said it himself in one of the interviews but I can't remember which one. I really think that he should retire when EG releases him, he is probably the top earning player in their team so even if he doesn't well in a tournament he would still earn lots of $$$ compared to study but it's up to him lol
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