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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 06 2013 13:41 GMT
#881
On March 06 2013 22:40 Noocta wrote:
The muta fight is going snute's way because a ton of muta bounces are going to the hatch below


Indeed, was also smart how in one engagement he kept zerglings under the ball of mutas so the bounces would hit them

He was even down an upgrade in the last major engagements
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 06 2013 13:42 GMT
#882
On March 06 2013 22:39 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


Because one infestor means two less mutas?


One decent fungal is worth so much more than 2 Mutas isn't it?

The problem is the transition, Infestation Pit, Pathogen Glands, and a couple of Infestors means you'll be behind by quite a few Mutas until you catch everything in that fungal and you can die during that time.
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
March 06 2013 13:42 GMT
#883
Why do they not micro wounded muta's to the back? Is it really better to just a-move and pray? If so it is kind of sad.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
March 06 2013 13:42 GMT
#884
On March 06 2013 22:39 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


Because one infestor means two less mutas?


One decent fungal is worth so much more than 2 Mutas isn't it?


Nope.

With the new buffs to speed and regeneration to Mutas,
Plus,it easier to dodge the new fungals.

You can't afford to go for infestors unless you are way ahead.
Play your best
Meadowlark
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States349 Posts
March 06 2013 13:42 GMT
#885
On March 06 2013 22:39 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


+ Show Spoiler +
Because one infestor means two less mutas?


One decent fungal is worth so much more than 2 Mutas isn't it?

Yeah, but the mutas are so fast you can only get a fungal off if the opponent isn't paying attention. Additionally, if you don't chain fungal and kill all the mutas outright then the health regeneration negates the effects of the fungals.
''Three bottles of Monster in a day; I'm pumped as fuck." -Stephano
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1110 Posts
March 06 2013 13:43 GMT
#886
On March 06 2013 21:43 Baum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 21:36 Plexa wrote:
On March 06 2013 21:33 Bagi wrote:
So far Slivko, Xlord, Vortix and Snute are crashing and burning in this tournament.

Can anyone tell what they all have in common?

If you're implying that snute was a 'patchzerg' then you clearly never watched any of his games... Snute was practicing WoL presumably under the impression that there would still be two big WoL tournaments left. Watch and see as after a few months Snute is back competing at the top level.


Snute has about as many Hots games as a lot of others and I bet Snute will not be able to compete at the level he did in Lings of Liberty.

Snute streamed WoL during basically the entire HotS beta.. He has not played as much HotS as the other guys.
Playgu
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
March 06 2013 13:43 GMT
#887
Dat QXC laugh lol
I've got moves like Jagger
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 13:45:19
March 06 2013 13:44 GMT
#888
On March 06 2013 22:42 Hylirion wrote:
Why do they not micro wounded muta's to the back? Is it really better to just a-move and pray? If so it is kind of sad.


If you micro back your weaken muta, you lose dps, so you lose the fight.

And yes, it's just bad and sad.

Maybe they should try hydra infestor swarmhost.

AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 06 2013 13:45 GMT
#889
Have Nathanias passed out?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 13:47:59
March 06 2013 13:46 GMT
#890
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


because it's hard to tech there without falling behind.
Infestation pit+pathogen is 2.5mutas. Plus an infestor is 4mutas that you are behind.

I think there is a point where you should mix them in, but that point has to get figuered. Like, right at the start when both go mutas... you absolutly cannot do it because lacking 4+ mutas in a 10ish mutalisk count is very harsh. Also infestors don't pay off quite at that point even if they get decent hits off, due to the AoE nature.

Edit: Also the new health regeneration makes retreating after getting fungaled really forgiving for the mutalisk player. You regain health faster than the Infestor regains fungals.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51478 Posts
March 06 2013 13:49 GMT
#891
K ZvZ mass muti vs mass muti is just shit
Always was going to be one broken match up, and looks like we found it ;_;
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 06 2013 13:49 GMT
#892
Lol did you guys know that Snute won 3 norwegian lans in february? Playin wol longer than then rest was worth it in his case. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Snute/Results
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 06 2013 13:51 GMT
#893
For you not watching GSL, I suggest you tune in!

+ Show Spoiler +
Bbyong, Sniper and soO in tiebreakers, everyone is derping so hard all the time. Landing 25ish vikings in zerg main base to lose them to brood lord infestor, forgetting to wall in, rerooting spine when marines are close. It's hilarious atm!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7979 Posts
March 06 2013 13:51 GMT
#894
has he really hotkeyed the rocks into his muta group?
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
March 06 2013 13:51 GMT
#895
On March 06 2013 22:49 Musicus wrote:
Lol did you guys know that Snute won 3 norwegian lans in february? Playin wol longer than then rest was worth it in his case. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Snute/Results

Yup, earned him 5000$
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 06 2013 13:53 GMT
#896
SH's vs SH's would look even better than mutas fight
Terran & Potato Salad.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
March 06 2013 13:53 GMT
#897
On March 06 2013 22:44 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:42 Hylirion wrote:
Why do they not micro wounded muta's to the back? Is it really better to just a-move and pray? If so it is kind of sad.


If you micro back your weaken muta, you lose dps, so you lose the fight.

And yes, it's just bad and sad.

Maybe they should try hydra infestor swarmhost.



at least in BW focusfire made a huge difference in muta vs muta, should be the same here. But other than that, there is not much you can do ^^
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7979 Posts
March 06 2013 13:54 GMT
#898
why did violet saturate his 3rd mineral line going over 65 drones, the minerals dont seem very useful in muta wars
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 06 2013 13:55 GMT
#899
On March 06 2013 22:51 DJHelium wrote:
For you not watching GSL, I suggest you tune in!

+ Show Spoiler +
Bbyong, Sniper and soO in tiebreakers, everyone is derping so hard all the time. Landing 25ish vikings in zerg main base to lose them to brood lord infestor, forgetting to wall in, rerooting spine when marines are close. It's hilarious atm!


Not now. We're watching some muta on muta action.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 06 2013 13:57 GMT
#900
And that's why you build mutas
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