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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
March 06 2013 13:37 GMT
#861
Uhm... why is Snute looking like Willem Defoe?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 06 2013 13:37 GMT
#862
On March 06 2013 22:34 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:34 Noocta wrote:
Mutas on Mutas battle aren't that great, let's be honest here. ;;

It lacks scourges at least


Starcraft 2 IA would supress the need to target muta so scourge don't waste themselves by overkill tho, so I'm not even sure.

Specially since BW was 11 muta vs 11 Muta, not 30 vs 30
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
fishb00n
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany607 Posts
March 06 2013 13:37 GMT
#863
nice throw by violet
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 06 2013 13:37 GMT
#864
On March 06 2013 22:36 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:35 nomyx wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:34 ragnorr wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:34 Noocta wrote:
Mutas on Mutas battle aren't that great, let's be honest here. ;;

It lacks scourges at least


Don't worry, instead of scourge vs muta micro it'll be infestor vs muta micro

Problem is, that comes out to late to be entertaining. Scourges were same tech as muta which made some interesting micro at leasst


Yeah scourge would be a welcome addition. Hopefully in 2016 we'll get them.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 06 2013 13:38 GMT
#865
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
March 06 2013 13:38 GMT
#866
Please people! Any recommended series?
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 06 2013 13:38 GMT
#867
I like muta vs muta, especially with ling/banes in the mix and run bys happening. Snute is so good in zvz, Violet is on of the best and he plays him evenly.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 06 2013 13:38 GMT
#868
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


Because one infestor means two less mutas?
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
March 06 2013 13:38 GMT
#869
Yeah, the meta game is set now for life and it will never ever change again.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 06 2013 13:38 GMT
#870
Why did Violet take that far base instead of the one he could easily wall off against Ling attacks by breaking the rocks?
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 13:40:08
March 06 2013 13:38 GMT
#871
On March 06 2013 22:37 fishb00n wrote:
nice throw by violet

You're so brave.

I would rather prefer mass roach zvz than hots zvz.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 06 2013 13:39 GMT
#872
On March 06 2013 22:38 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


Because one infestor means two less mutas?


One decent fungal is worth so much more than 2 Mutas isn't it?
Nachor
Profile Joined December 2009
Germany83 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 13:41:33
March 06 2013 13:40 GMT
#873
The problem is: what counters mutas cost-efficiently? I don't see anything at the moment. Fungal Growth is much harder to hit now. And while teching to Infestors you spend gas not dumped into mutas, which means your opponent will have a window to overwhelm you with his mutas.
Maybe heavy spore turtling on three bases would enable you to tech to Infestors?
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 06 2013 13:40 GMT
#874
On March 06 2013 22:39 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


Because one infestor means two less mutas?


One decent fungal is worth so much more than 2 Mutas isn't it?


NO!
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
March 06 2013 13:40 GMT
#875
The muta fight is going snute's way because a ton of muta bounces are going to the hatch below
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
March 06 2013 13:40 GMT
#876
On March 06 2013 22:39 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


Because one infestor means two less mutas?


One decent fungal is worth so much more than 2 Mutas isn't it?


The problem is mobility. If you put 2 infestors at each hatchery the mutas will overcome the infestors.
o)_Saurus
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany260 Posts
March 06 2013 13:41 GMT
#877
ZvZ in WoL basically also was muta vs muta during it's first half year.
Can't stand these people complaining about HotS matchups when the game itself is not even released yet -_-
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 06 2013 13:41 GMT
#878
On March 06 2013 22:39 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


Because one infestor means two less mutas?


One decent fungal is worth so much more than 2 Mutas isn't it?


You are gambling on your opponent being bad or not watching, dodging fungals is very possible now, even if they are aimed perfectly. Nerchio dodged tons of fungals against Slivko. Sometimes Slivko got 1 or 2 mutas per, the infestors also died after the energy was gone.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 06 2013 13:41 GMT
#879
On March 06 2013 22:38 TimENT wrote:
Please people! Any recommended series?


I guess you could skip the earlier Snute series'.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
March 06 2013 13:41 GMT
#880
On March 06 2013 22:39 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 22:38 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 06 2013 22:38 Exarl25 wrote:
Can someone explain why Zergs don't make Infestors in that situation? I know you actually have to aim your Fungals now but is that really such a scary concept to Zerg players?


Because one infestor means two less mutas?


One decent fungal is worth so much more than 2 Mutas isn't it?

Not with hots fungal and muta regen, hard to do good fungals.
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