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On February 27 2013 21:44 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:42 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Then I assume that Progamers are topping liquid bets and fantasy PL, right? It is silly to think that a progamer is right all the time. Better player does not mean they will always win.
But their chances of winning is higher. So given a large sample size like Fantasy PL, they should come out on top. Artosis has a lot of game knowledge as well...
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On February 27 2013 21:44 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:40 Qikz wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? A progamer may know a lot about the game, and so may anyone else who actually wants to learn a lot about it. The only huge difference is some people don't have the mechanics to pull it off. Anyone can have as much game knowledge as a pro-gamer. It wouldn't be that hard, the big difference is being able to use it in an actual game. You gave an extreme example that most likely does not hold true in this situation. Have TT1 compete against the original poster in a contest of game knowledge and lets see what the result is.
lol mate, I have absolutely no doubt TT1 knows more about the game than me, along with probably 75% of the rest of the forum. I don't want to start playing Jeopardy.
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On February 27 2013 21:48 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:44 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:42 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:
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Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list.
Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Then I assume that Progamers are topping liquid bets and fantasy PL, right? It is silly to think that a progamer is right all the time. Better player does not mean they will always win. But their chances of winning is higher. So given a large sample size like Fantasy PL, they should come out on top. Artosis has a lot of game knowledge as well...
Dat curse.
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On February 27 2013 21:41 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:39 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? I love this argument. Like a progamer doesn't have biases that every other human being has. Or that they somehow have a better system of judgement that is universal. I mean, I'm not saying TT1 has a bad opinion. But its an opinion. Being someone who plays the game at the highest level, I'm pretty certain that he can determine skill better than the average forum poster.
Based upon what? The maximum skill he's seen a player use? The skill he saw in their very last game? Their average skill? Maybe TT1 heavily respects Flying's tactical decisions over Parting's in PvT based upon how he likes to play?
Just saying that sure, TT1 plays the game at the highest level and thus understands things the average forum poster does. But it's still an opinion based upon criteria people may not agree with. Other progamers probably wouldn't even agree on the same criteria.
So as spectators we can debate it until the cows come home. I also don't agree with his top 3. Flying looks good lately, but top 3 good? With Parting, MC, Squirtle, HerO, herO[join], Creator, Yongwha, free, et al in the mix it's a tough sell.
EDIT: And no-one here is going to play Trivial Pursuit: Protoss version with TT1 haha.
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On February 27 2013 21:44 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:42 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Then I assume that Progamers are topping liquid bets and fantasy PL, right? It is silly to think that a progamer is right all the time. RANK 99 OK? and i had a terrible week http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php
I don't think anyone is saying your picks are terrible or wrong. It is just that Backsideattack is trying to say you are 100% right BECAUSE you are a progamer.
What is someone like Mvp or Life posted their top 3 here? Would their picks automatically be more valid than yours because they played at a higher level?
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On February 27 2013 21:50 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:41 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:39 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? I love this argument. Like a progamer doesn't have biases that every other human being has. Or that they somehow have a better system of judgement that is universal. I mean, I'm not saying TT1 has a bad opinion. But its an opinion. Being someone who plays the game at the highest level, I'm pretty certain that he can determine skill better than the average forum poster. Based upon what? The maximum skill he's seen a player use? The skill he saw in their very last game? Their average skill? Maybe TT1 heavily respects Flying's tactical decisions over Parting's in PvT based upon how he likes to play? Just saying that sure, TT1 plays the game at the highest level and thus understands things the average forum poster does. But it's still an opinion based upon criteria people may not agree with. Other progamers probably wouldn't even agree on the same criteria. So as spectators we can debate it until the cows come home. I also don't agree with his top 3. Flying looks good lately, but top 3 good? With Parting, MC, Squirtle, HerO, herO[join], Creator, Yongwha, free, et al in the mix it's a tough sell. EDIT: And no-one here is going to play Trivial Pursuit: Protoss version with TT1 haha.
It was a KeSPA only top 3, but still, I think herO, Rain and Shy are locked in too comfortably. *shrugs* opinion 
P.S - I'm not drunk.
Edit: I went with Jeopardy... but yeh I don't wanna play Trivial Pursuit either 
Double Edit: woops it wasnt KeSPA top 3... hooley dooley.. my bad <3
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Aw yeah, 3/4 Liquibets with all LG-IM players advancing. I got B4 vs True wrong, I remembered B4 as having good ZvZ, but not sure why...
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On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level.
Highest level? We just watched the highest level- The GSL. 2nd highest level would be Proleague. 3rd highest would probably be making to around the Round of 16 at an MLG main event. 4th highest...maybe making it out of groups at a European major live tourney or IPL. 5th highest is the rest of the pros, like TT1.
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On February 27 2013 21:54 Kasaraki wrote:
Aw yeah, 3/4 Liquibets with all LG-IM players advancing. I got B4 vs True wrong, I remembered B4 as having good ZvZ, but not sure why...
He looked good in ro32 and went 1-2 vs Life and Roro in Ro16. But just not his day. He made some mistakes in the first game and TRUE played great. Second game he just took a big risk to go hatch first.
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On February 27 2013 21:56 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:54 Kasaraki wrote:
Aw yeah, 3/4 Liquibets with all LG-IM players advancing. I got B4 vs True wrong, I remembered B4 as having good ZvZ, but not sure why... He looked good in ro32 and went 1-2 vs Life and Roro in Ro16. But just not his day. He made some mistakes in the first game and TRUE played great. Second game he just took a big risk to go hatch first.
Yeah I had 3/4 aswell, but those first two Z v Z sets were all over the place.. thats my excuse anyway!
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On February 27 2013 21:55 Devolved wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Highest level? We just watched the highest level- The GSL. 2nd highest level would be Proleague. 3rd highest would probably be making to around the Round of 16 at an MLG main event. 4th highest...maybe making it out of groups at a European major live tourney or IPL. 5th highest is the rest of the pros, like TT1.
Let's not get into this. Compare to the rest of us in this thread, TT1 does play at the highest level.
I think people are ranking MC lower because of his past success. He was 1 game away from make the Ro4. If a Kespa player or an up and comer like a Tear, First, etc did that, they would be hailed as the #1 Protoss.
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Flash looked really good.
but Rain, oh Rain... his drop defense in game 1 was so bad that it made me cry inside... he spotted almost every single drop (really nice positioning on observers), yet, he miss microed his army on all of then...
Overall, I think Rain played too passive and safe, he didn't show any desire to win, and you can't win when you play to survive.
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On February 27 2013 21:46 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:42 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? nah I'm with TT1 on this. gotcha back on dis bro. ez son. but now that i think about it more its hard to say whether or not those players are better than stats or herojoin, so im just gonna say that the top 5 toss's are flying rain shy herojoin and stats, imo parting falls outside of the top 5. How about free? On the same team but gets sent out more and has better record?
hmm dunno tbh, free is also really good but i havnt seen him play enough. its really hard to keep track of everyones skill lvl because they all practice so much and improve at an insanely fast pace. for example players like dear and trap are top 10 gm on the ladder but no1 really knows how good they are because of their small game sample(even tho trap has been doing really well lately : D)
also judging a players skill based off of their record can be very misleading at times. i personally try to evaluate their skill by watching them play, regardless of whether or not they win or lose. if u were to judge flashs skill lvl on his current pl round then he shouldnt even be considered as a top kespa t, same thing goes for fantasy. soulkey and herojoin were terrible in the previous round but are owning everyone this round
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On February 27 2013 21:56 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:54 Kasaraki wrote:
Aw yeah, 3/4 Liquibets with all LG-IM players advancing. I got B4 vs True wrong, I remembered B4 as having good ZvZ, but not sure why... He looked good in ro32 and went 1-2 vs Life and Roro in Ro16. But just not his day. He made some mistakes in the first game and TRUE played great. Second game he just took a big risk to go hatch first.
He only went 1-2 vs RorO, then he lost to Parting, didn't play Life. But yeah, True looked worse in his ZvZs in the previous round, so I got that one wrong too.
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On February 27 2013 21:56 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:54 Kasaraki wrote:
Aw yeah, 3/4 Liquibets with all LG-IM players advancing. I got B4 vs True wrong, I remembered B4 as having good ZvZ, but not sure why... He looked good in ro32 and went 1-2 vs Life and Roro in Ro16. But just not his day. He made some mistakes in the first game and TRUE played great. Second game he just took a big risk to go hatch first.
Ahh, I knew I had a good reason! Haha. Come to think of it, he also beat Hyun 2-0 in r32. Will have to watch the vods later. :o
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On February 27 2013 21:58 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:55 Devolved wrote:On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Highest level? We just watched the highest level- The GSL. 2nd highest level would be Proleague. 3rd highest would probably be making to around the Round of 16 at an MLG main event. 4th highest...maybe making it out of groups at a European major live tourney or IPL. 5th highest is the rest of the pros, like TT1. Let's not get into this. Compare to the rest of us in this thread, TT1 does play at the highest level.
You're just not using the right word, and while it may be semantics I think in this case it does matter. TT1 is playing at a higher level compared to the rest of us in this thread, not the highest level. And it doesn't mean that his opinion of who is better than who is infallible. Some of the best coaches and talent scouts in football were never pros themselves, but they know the game better than most of the pro players out on the field and can tell you who has the potential to become a great player better than some random pro football player.
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On February 27 2013 22:06 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:46 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:42 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? nah I'm with TT1 on this. gotcha back on dis bro. ez son. but now that i think about it more its hard to say whether or not those players are better than stats or herojoin, so im just gonna say that the top 5 toss's are flying rain shy herojoin and stats, imo parting falls outside of the top 5. How about free? On the same team but gets sent out more and has better record? hmm dunno tbh, free is also really good but i havnt seen him play enough. its really hard to keep track of everyones skill lvl because they all practice so much and improve at an insanely fast pace. for example players like dear and trap are top 10 gm on the ladder but no1 really knows how good they are because of their small game sample(even tho trap has been doing really well lately : D) if u were to judge flashs skill lvl on his current pl round then he wouldnt even be considered as a top kespa t, same thing goes for fantasy
Heh, it was funny to see people saying Flash is unbeatable after beating Rain but forgot he lost his 2 previous TvP in PL to flying and Bong. He did play great today but the hype train just took off.
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lol @ recommended for flash game 1 and 2
almost made me sad for oversleeping ...
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On February 27 2013 22:08 Devolved wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:58 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:55 Devolved wrote:On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:
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Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list.
Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Highest level? We just watched the highest level- The GSL. 2nd highest level would be Proleague. 3rd highest would probably be making to around the Round of 16 at an MLG main event. 4th highest...maybe making it out of groups at a European major live tourney or IPL. 5th highest is the rest of the pros, like TT1. Let's not get into this. Compare to the rest of us in this thread, TT1 does play at the highest level. You're just not using the right word, and while it may be semantics I think in this case it does matter. TT1 is playing at a high er level compared to the rest of us in this thread, not the high est level. And it doesn't mean that his opinion of who is better than who is infallible. Some of the best coaches and talent scouts in football were never pros themselves, but they know the game better than most of the pro players out on the field and can tell you who has the potential to become a great player better than some random pro football player.
Oh, I agree about the opinion part (if you read my previous posts, I was arguing for the same point as you). But I don't think it is necessary do try to argue whether TT1 is a tier 1 pro or a tier 5 pro. If you use 'highest' literally, even GSL Code S isn't highest. Only the single best player in the world is playing at the highest level.
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On February 27 2013 22:15 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 22:08 Devolved wrote:On February 27 2013 21:58 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:55 Devolved wrote:On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:
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MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Highest level? We just watched the highest level- The GSL. 2nd highest level would be Proleague. 3rd highest would probably be making to around the Round of 16 at an MLG main event. 4th highest...maybe making it out of groups at a European major live tourney or IPL. 5th highest is the rest of the pros, like TT1. Let's not get into this. Compare to the rest of us in this thread, TT1 does play at the highest level. You're just not using the right word, and while it may be semantics I think in this case it does matter. TT1 is playing at a high er level compared to the rest of us in this thread, not the high est level. And it doesn't mean that his opinion of who is better than who is infallible. Some of the best coaches and talent scouts in football were never pros themselves, but they know the game better than most of the pro players out on the field and can tell you who has the potential to become a great player better than some random pro football player. Oh, I agree about the opinion part (if you read my previous posts, I was arguing for the same point as you). But I don't think it is necessary do try to argue whether TT1 is a tier 1 pro or a tier 5 pro. If you use 'highest' literally, even GSL Code S isn't highest. Only the single best player in the world is playing at the highest level.
vthree, youre a good guy and I may have to say Yes to Love when it comes to you.
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