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ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On February 27 2013 21:34 GolemMadness wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:28 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:26 GolemMadness wrote:On February 27 2013 21:19 Grovbolle wrote:On February 27 2013 21:14 GolemMadness wrote:On February 27 2013 21:12 IamPryda wrote: Rain should have just added on gateways and built an immortal and face rolled that game flash was so far behind. Let's see what hots holds for flash because is wol was not that impressive Not even in my top 10 kespa only sc2 ...lol He is 6th on mine http://aligulac.com/periods/79/?page=1&sort=&race=ptzrs&nats=kr ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) I don't think that many people take a list with ForGG at 11th too seriously. ??? forgg is sick as fuck bro Not sure if this is serious or not.
2fac all day everyday.
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On February 27 2013 21:32 Disarmed wrote: guys how do you think has the sickest micro TERRAN wise?
cause ppl always talk bout flash's macro and decision making and often have said that his micro is not top notch..
I would say probably MKP. He gets punished for being greedy, but I don't think I've ever seen him get punished for being unable to properly control his forces.
Gumiho has good drop harassment but I'm not sure that he's microing 100% of that.
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On February 27 2013 21:34 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:32 Disarmed wrote: guys how do you think has the sickest micro TERRAN wise?
cause ppl always talk bout flash's macro and decision making and often have said that his micro is not top notch.. It's still MKP. Polt is super good too.
haha true, totally forgot about MKP. what was that game where he fought like 4 hellions with a low hp marauder and a medivac? kept lifting it and doding flames?
supersweet
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On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you?
Well, if Flying is a top 3 Protoss, then its debatable I guess... ? hahaha
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On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you?
Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right?
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On February 27 2013 21:36 Disarmed wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:34 Ghanburighan wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 Disarmed wrote: guys how do you think has the sickest micro TERRAN wise?
cause ppl always talk bout flash's macro and decision making and often have said that his micro is not top notch.. It's still MKP. Polt is super good too. haha true, totally forgot about MKP. what was that game where he fought like 4 hellions with a low hp marauder and a medivac? kept lifting it and doding flames? supersweet
MKP v Keen, G2. Dodged banshee and hellion shots by juggling 2 marauders with medivacs.
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On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you?
I love this argument. Like a progamer doesn't have biases that every other human being has. Or that they somehow have a better system of judgement that is universal.
I mean, I'm not saying TT1 has a bad opinion. But its an opinion.
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On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right?
Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level.
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On February 27 2013 21:38 Ghanburighan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:36 Disarmed wrote:On February 27 2013 21:34 Ghanburighan wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 Disarmed wrote: guys how do you think has the sickest micro TERRAN wise?
cause ppl always talk bout flash's macro and decision making and often have said that his micro is not top notch.. It's still MKP. Polt is super good too. haha true, totally forgot about MKP. what was that game where he fought like 4 hellions with a low hp marauder and a medivac? kept lifting it and doding flames? supersweet MKP v Keen, G2. Dodged banshee and hellion shots by juggling 2 marauders with medivacs.
That was soooo awesome to watch. I love those antics when they get rolling. Like when Maru defended against Effort on Entombed with ridiculous marauder micro aswell.
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On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you?
A progamer may know a lot about the game, and so may anyone else who actually wants to learn a lot about it. The only huge difference is some people don't have the mechanics to pull it off.
Anyone can have as much game knowledge as a pro-gamer. It wouldn't be that hard, the big difference is being able to use it in an actual game.
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On February 27 2013 21:39 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? I love this argument. Like a progamer doesn't have biases that every other human being has. Or that they somehow have a better system of judgement that is universal. I mean, I'm not saying TT1 has a bad opinion. But its an opinion.
Being someone who plays the game at the highest level, I'm pretty certain that he can determine skill better than the average forum poster.
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On February 27 2013 21:39 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? I love this argument. Like a progamer doesn't have biases that every other human being has. Or that they somehow have a better system of judgement that is universal. I mean, I'm not saying TT1 has a bad opinion. But its an opinion.
Yeah spot on. I meant no disrespect to TT1 or his judgement - the drunk comment was in jest ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
I'd go sOs, Rain and herO if I had to pick 3 KeSPA outside of Parting.
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On February 27 2013 21:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? nah I'm with TT1 on this. gotcha back on dis bro.
ez son. but now that i think about it more its hard to say whether or not those players are better than stats or herojoin, so im just gonna say that the top 5 toss's are flying rain shy herojoin and stats, imo parting falls outside of the top 5.
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On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level.
Then I assume that Progamers are topping liquid bets and fantasy PL, right? It is silly to think that a progamer is right all the time.
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On February 27 2013 21:42 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Then I assume that Progamers are topping liquid bets and fantasy PL, right? It is silly to think that a progamer is right all the time.
RANK 99 OK? and i had a terrible week http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php
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On February 27 2013 21:40 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? A progamer may know a lot about the game, and so may anyone else who actually wants to learn a lot about it. The only huge difference is some people don't have the mechanics to pull it off. Anyone can have as much game knowledge as a pro-gamer. It wouldn't be that hard, the big difference is being able to use it in an actual game.
You gave an extreme example that most likely does not hold true in this situation. Have TT1 compete against the original poster in a contest of game knowledge and lets see what the result is.
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On February 27 2013 21:42 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:39 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:37 vthree wrote:On February 27 2013 21:33 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? K dude,,,who knows more about the game. An actual progamer, or you? Ad MKP is bad because Idra said so, right? Actually Idra retracted that statement fyi. Its silly when casuals argue with players that play the game at the highest level. Then I assume that Progamers are topping liquid bets and fantasy PL, right? It is silly to think that a progamer is right all the time.
Better player does not mean they will always win.
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On February 27 2013 21:42 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? nah I'm with TT1 on this. gotcha back on dis bro. ez son. but now that i think about it more its hard to say whether or not those players are better than like stats or herojoin, so im just gonna say that the top 5 toss's are flying rain shy herojoin and stats, imo parting falls outside of the top 5.
I think this is the part where BackSideAttack Back Tracks.
I kid I kid BackSideAttack :D <3
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On February 27 2013 21:42 ROOTT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 21:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 27 2013 21:32 liberate71 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 ROOTT1 wrote:On February 27 2013 21:30 BackSideAttack wrote:On February 27 2013 21:21 bittman wrote:On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote: Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems. Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list. Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year. MC really is not that strong anymore and Squirtle recently has been good but not great. Overall i would say Rain is still a top 2 protoss trailing Parting. top 3 toss are flying rain and shy Flying? are you drunk? nah I'm with TT1 on this. gotcha back on dis bro. ez son. but now that i think about it more its hard to say whether or not those players are better than stats or herojoin, so im just gonna say that the top 5 toss's are flying rain shy herojoin and stats, imo parting falls outside of the top 5.
How about free? On the same team but gets sent out more and has better record?
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