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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 27 2013 12:14 GMT
#1101
On February 27 2013 21:12 IamPryda wrote:
Rain should have just added on gateways and built an immortal and face rolled that game flash was so far behind. Let's see what hots holds for flash because is wol was not that impressive Not even in my top 10 kespa only sc2


...lol
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 27 2013 12:14 GMT
#1102
On February 27 2013 21:06 papaz wrote:
How can he multitask like that. I have a hard time following what happens when just watching that.

It's really amazing. Not only is he multi-tasking like mad, his timings on his multi-tasked drops are impeccable. I loved when he had the 3 drop ships threaten to drop in the main, and just when Rain's army/warp-in arrived to defend against them, he dropped in the natural and racked up the damage. So he's doing all of this micro multi-tasking while the whole while he is out-macroing Rain back at home even though he was at a 10 worker deficit and slower expo from his first failed attack, which btw was beautifully defended by Rain. Although in hindsight, I think Rain should have let him kill something in that first attack because his denial just pissed him off and Flash went into God-mode.
$♥$
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
February 27 2013 12:15 GMT
#1103
On February 27 2013 21:10 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:08 moskonia wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:07 Pasargadae wrote:
Well, hopefully that was a portent of things to come. Flash went through Code A without dropping a single map.

In before Flash winning Code S without dropping a single map.


I highly doubt that. And that's an understatement.

I do wonder if anyone will be able to match Professor Tea with that achievement...
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
February 27 2013 12:15 GMT
#1104
On February 27 2013 21:12 IamPryda wrote:
Rain should have just added on gateways and built an immortal and face rolled that game flash was so far behind. Let's see what hots holds for flash because is wol was not that impressive Not even in my top 10 kespa only sc2

your tears, give them to me
Что?
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
February 27 2013 12:15 GMT
#1105
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems.
Amove for Aiur
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 27 2013 12:16 GMT
#1106
On February 27 2013 21:10 WerderBremen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:09 liberate71 wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:07 .Trex wrote:
That was pretty impressive, iddqd if you know what I mean


Hi 5 old timer! <3 :D


:D idclevs
So happy for Flash! Can't wait to see him in Hots Code S.


ohhh I remember idclevs but I dont remember its use...

idspispopd for hardcores... or just idnoclip for less hardcores
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 27 2013 12:16 GMT
#1107
On February 27 2013 21:12 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:07 Anta wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:05 GaliX wrote:
mhh What did Rain wrong? I didn't see any misstakes by Rain it was great defend.

in game 1 his drop defense was horrible...

in game 2 ye not much he could have done, may be he has to harrass by him self more often... oh and storming the own army is never a great idea.


I agree with game 1. Though game 2 I really don't see all that much he could have done differently. Flash just played excellently and used every hole and timing there is for him to get ahead. When he stormed his own army the game was already over. In fact - when Flash was 3 base and Rain went for his 3rd + storm transtition and got caught with his pants down Flash had that. Really incredible showing from Flash today.

P felt so stale and static in comparison to Flash's T in these games ~


Well, one thing I didn't like was how Rain kept on warping in units over and over again instead of just positioning properly.
It felt a bit like he was defending movement with resources...
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
February 27 2013 12:16 GMT
#1108
On February 27 2013 21:14 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:06 papaz wrote:
How can he multitask like that. I have a hard time following what happens when just watching that.

It's really amazing. Not only is he multi-tasking like mad, his timings on his multi-tasked drops are impeccable. I loved when he had the 3 drop ships threaten to drop in the main, and just when Rain's army/warp-in arrived to defend against them, he dropped in the natural and racked up the damage. So he's doing all of this micro multi-tasking while the whole while he is out-macroing Rain back at home even though he was at a 10 worker deficit and slower expo from his first failed attack, which btw was beautifully defended by Rain. Although in hindsight, I think Rain should have let him kill something in that first attack because his denial just pissed him off and Flash went into God-mode.


FLASH VS BEST FORTRESS

THE ULTIMATE BEATDOWN

if rain stomped DRG and flash stomped rain...? what could happen next season?
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
February 27 2013 12:18 GMT
#1109
On February 27 2013 21:16 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:14 Devolved wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:06 papaz wrote:
How can he multitask like that. I have a hard time following what happens when just watching that.

It's really amazing. Not only is he multi-tasking like mad, his timings on his multi-tasked drops are impeccable. I loved when he had the 3 drop ships threaten to drop in the main, and just when Rain's army/warp-in arrived to defend against them, he dropped in the natural and racked up the damage. So he's doing all of this micro multi-tasking while the whole while he is out-macroing Rain back at home even though he was at a 10 worker deficit and slower expo from his first failed attack, which btw was beautifully defended by Rain. Although in hindsight, I think Rain should have let him kill something in that first attack because his denial just pissed him off and Flash went into God-mode.


FLASH VS BEST FORTRESS

THE ULTIMATE BEATDOWN

if rain stomped DRG and flash stomped rain...? what could happen next season?


True to win the whole thing.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
February 27 2013 12:18 GMT
#1110
On February 27 2013 21:16 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:14 Devolved wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:06 papaz wrote:
How can he multitask like that. I have a hard time following what happens when just watching that.

It's really amazing. Not only is he multi-tasking like mad, his timings on his multi-tasked drops are impeccable. I loved when he had the 3 drop ships threaten to drop in the main, and just when Rain's army/warp-in arrived to defend against them, he dropped in the natural and racked up the damage. So he's doing all of this micro multi-tasking while the whole while he is out-macroing Rain back at home even though he was at a 10 worker deficit and slower expo from his first failed attack, which btw was beautifully defended by Rain. Although in hindsight, I think Rain should have let him kill something in that first attack because his denial just pissed him off and Flash went into God-mode.


FLASH VS BEST FORTRESS

THE ULTIMATE BEATDOWN

if rain stomped DRG and flash stomped rain...? what could happen next season?


thats not even the best Flash vs BeSt game, try looking at the ultimate god mode bunker rush.
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GaliX
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany380 Posts
February 27 2013 12:18 GMT
#1111
On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems.



I don't think so. Its more like the meta game changed. If you choose to macro a game against a top Terran you give the controle away. You are getting a puppet somehow.
fartosis77
Profile Joined February 2013
Belgium461 Posts
February 27 2013 12:18 GMT
#1112
On February 27 2013 21:16 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:14 Devolved wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:06 papaz wrote:
How can he multitask like that. I have a hard time following what happens when just watching that.

It's really amazing. Not only is he multi-tasking like mad, his timings on his multi-tasked drops are impeccable. I loved when he had the 3 drop ships threaten to drop in the main, and just when Rain's army/warp-in arrived to defend against them, he dropped in the natural and racked up the damage. So he's doing all of this micro multi-tasking while the whole while he is out-macroing Rain back at home even though he was at a 10 worker deficit and slower expo from his first failed attack, which btw was beautifully defended by Rain. Although in hindsight, I think Rain should have let him kill something in that first attack because his denial just pissed him off and Flash went into God-mode.


FLASH VS BEST FORTRESS

THE ULTIMATE BEATDOWN

if rain stomped DRG and flash stomped rain...? what could happen next season?

Loved that game :D Reminded me a lot of this drop spam in GSL
IM NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
February 27 2013 12:19 GMT
#1113
On February 27 2013 21:14 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:12 IamPryda wrote:
Rain should have just added on gateways and built an immortal and face rolled that game flash was so far behind. Let's see what hots holds for flash because is wol was not that impressive Not even in my top 10 kespa only sc2


...lol


He is 6th on mine
http://aligulac.com/periods/79/?page=1&sort=&race=ptzrs&nats=kr
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
February 27 2013 12:19 GMT
#1114
On February 27 2013 21:16 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:12 Doublemint wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:07 Anta wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:05 GaliX wrote:
mhh What did Rain wrong? I didn't see any misstakes by Rain it was great defend.

in game 1 his drop defense was horrible...

in game 2 ye not much he could have done, may be he has to harrass by him self more often... oh and storming the own army is never a great idea.


I agree with game 1. Though game 2 I really don't see all that much he could have done differently. Flash just played excellently and used every hole and timing there is for him to get ahead. When he stormed his own army the game was already over. In fact - when Flash was 3 base and Rain went for his 3rd + storm transtition and got caught with his pants down Flash had that. Really incredible showing from Flash today.

P felt so stale and static in comparison to Flash's T in these games ~


Well, one thing I didn't like was how Rain kept on warping in units over and over again instead of just positioning properly.
It felt a bit like he was defending movement with resources...


Being a Protoss player I know how Rain felt, against the threat of drops from multiple fronts my multitasking gets really stretched to its limits, so I tend to hit the panic button and just warp in units. You're right though, Protoss players need to learn how to anticipate and position units better rather than rely on warp-ins all the time.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 27 2013 12:20 GMT
#1115
On February 27 2013 21:16 shadymmj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:14 Devolved wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:06 papaz wrote:
How can he multitask like that. I have a hard time following what happens when just watching that.

It's really amazing. Not only is he multi-tasking like mad, his timings on his multi-tasked drops are impeccable. I loved when he had the 3 drop ships threaten to drop in the main, and just when Rain's army/warp-in arrived to defend against them, he dropped in the natural and racked up the damage. So he's doing all of this micro multi-tasking while the whole while he is out-macroing Rain back at home even though he was at a 10 worker deficit and slower expo from his first failed attack, which btw was beautifully defended by Rain. Although in hindsight, I think Rain should have let him kill something in that first attack because his denial just pissed him off and Flash went into God-mode.


FLASH VS BEST FORTRESS

THE ULTIMATE BEATDOWN

if rain stomped DRG and flash stomped rain...? what could happen next season?


Life happens.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 27 2013 12:20 GMT
#1116
On February 27 2013 21:14 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:06 papaz wrote:
How can he multitask like that. I have a hard time following what happens when just watching that.

It's really amazing. Not only is he multi-tasking like mad, his timings on his multi-tasked drops are impeccable. I loved when he had the 3 drop ships threaten to drop in the main, and just when Rain's army/warp-in arrived to defend against them, he dropped in the natural and racked up the damage. So he's doing all of this micro multi-tasking while the whole while he is out-macroing Rain back at home even though he was at a 10 worker deficit and slower expo from his first failed attack, which btw was beautifully defended by Rain. Although in hindsight, I think Rain should have let him kill something in that first attack because his denial just pissed him off and Flash went into God-mode.


I would love to get my hands on that replay. I cannot even imagine what his FPV looks like.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 27 2013 12:21 GMT
#1117
On February 27 2013 21:15 Snusmumriken wrote:
Im not really sure if Rain is top3 protoss currently. I feel like he mainly benefited from innovative thinking in the first period of the kespa transition but his mechanics are not as solid as some other top-players (but still very good) and he's actually become very predictable it seems.


Oh Rain definitely isn't a top 3 protoss anymore. Top 3 kespa toss, with maybe sOs as the top of that list.

Rain still doesn't hold me as stronger than Parting, Squirtle and MC though. I mean maybe he still is up there, but he just looks so far from the near invincible kespa player that stormed into OSL and GSL last year.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8516 Posts
February 27 2013 12:24 GMT
#1118
On February 27 2013 21:19 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:16 Big J wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:12 Doublemint wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:07 Anta wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:05 GaliX wrote:
mhh What did Rain wrong? I didn't see any misstakes by Rain it was great defend.

in game 1 his drop defense was horrible...

in game 2 ye not much he could have done, may be he has to harrass by him self more often... oh and storming the own army is never a great idea.


I agree with game 1. Though game 2 I really don't see all that much he could have done differently. Flash just played excellently and used every hole and timing there is for him to get ahead. When he stormed his own army the game was already over. In fact - when Flash was 3 base and Rain went for his 3rd + storm transtition and got caught with his pants down Flash had that. Really incredible showing from Flash today.

P felt so stale and static in comparison to Flash's T in these games ~


Well, one thing I didn't like was how Rain kept on warping in units over and over again instead of just positioning properly.
It felt a bit like he was defending movement with resources...


Being a Protoss player I know how Rain felt, against the threat of drops from multiple fronts my multitasking gets really stretched to its limits, so I tend to hit the panic button and just warp in units. You're right though, Protoss players need to learn how to anticipate and position units better rather than rely on warp-ins all the time.


good luck against those turbo boost medivacs...

Though you are somewhat right. if he had like his core army in the front, in between nat and 3rd, and blink stalkers in the main it could have worked better. Who knows.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 27 2013 12:24 GMT
#1119
Rains reactions to the drops were a lot slower than I would've expected from a player like him. He's certainly not the best protoss, even if he's somewhere near the top.
Amazing play from Flash though, never seen such flawless macro behind such hyper aggressive multi prong drops.
Makes me feel worthless as i float 1k doing a simple banshee harass
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
February 27 2013 12:26 GMT
#1120
On February 27 2013 21:19 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2013 21:14 GolemMadness wrote:
On February 27 2013 21:12 IamPryda wrote:
Rain should have just added on gateways and built an immortal and face rolled that game flash was so far behind. Let's see what hots holds for flash because is wol was not that impressive Not even in my top 10 kespa only sc2


...lol


He is 6th on mine
http://aligulac.com/periods/79/?page=1&sort=&race=ptzrs&nats=kr


I don't think that many people take a list with ForGG at 11th too seriously.
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