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Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#181
On February 23 2013 14:42 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty interesting. What does blinding cloud do? I thought it was like dark swarm so units have to move out?


Essentially. Was kind of weird to see Ryung just stay sieged and sit in them,
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Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#182
Blinding cloud is hard to see, but units under it is easy to see.
Dark swarm is easy to see, but units under it is hard to see.

I wonder where the middle ground lies and what color is the best for it.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#183
On February 23 2013 14:38 covetousrat wrote:
Who said Zerg is weak in HOTS...

Zergs who have gotten used to crushing all aggression with queendralisks and having 80 drones at 12 minutes.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#184
On February 23 2013 14:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What is Wolf talking about? That was the 3rd ZvT win.
MarineKing > Lucky
Maru < JKS
ByuN < JKS
Dream > SSanaEE
jjakji > Shine
jjakji > Monster
Ryung < RagnaroK
4 - 3

Maybe he meant macro games and not all ins or something?
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#185
Ryung didn't seem like his head was really in that game... didn't really try to pressure at all, made 3 bunkers early on when Z wasn't even pushing, went bio/medivac bug didn't make any hellbats, let his siege tanks just sit in the blinding cloud for the entire duration during the first big engagement, and never made any vikings to counter the vipers after he saw them... oh well.
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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#186
On February 23 2013 14:42 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty interesting. What does blinding cloud do? I thought it was like dark swarm so units have to move out?

It is... Hence why the Siege Tanks didn't fire a single shot when in them...
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 05:44:25
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#187
All ground units have range reduced to melee, while under ground. Your own units included. Fun. Fact: ultras have range of 1 and have a tougher time to reach enemies under cloud.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#188
On February 23 2013 14:42 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty interesting. What does blinding cloud do? I thought it was like dark swarm so units have to move out?


it reduces the range of the units inside it to 1
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#189
On February 23 2013 14:42 suicideyear wrote:
ryung played like it was still HoTS.

I wonder how much Heart has been playing the new game since he's not really in any more WoL competitions.

*WoL
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
February 23 2013 05:43 GMT
#190
Ragnarok has been playing a ton of HOTS and he's currently one of the best 4-5 zerg players at HOTS, at least on ladder. I think he will probably all kill unless one of the protosses takes him out.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 23 2013 05:44 GMT
#191
WHAT UP WHAT UP WHATUP
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
February 23 2013 05:44 GMT
#192
On February 23 2013 14:42 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty interesting. What does blinding cloud do? I thought it was like dark swarm so units have to move out?

It's pretty much disruption web from BW except units still keep 1 range instead of being totally unable to attack.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
February 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#193
On February 23 2013 14:43 goswser wrote:
Ragnarok has been playing a ton of HOTS and he's currently one of the best 4-5 zerg players at HOTS, at least on ladder. I think he will probably all kill unless one of the protosses takes him out.

MMA 2-0'd him in the IPL6 qualifier...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#194
Does anyone know how good Alicia's PvZ is in HoTS? He beat some good P and T in that IPL6 qualifier but I don't think he played any zergs
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corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
February 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#195
On February 23 2013 14:43 goswser wrote:
Ragnarok has been playing a ton of HOTS and he's currently one of the best 4-5 zerg players at HOTS, at least on ladder. I think he will probably all kill unless one of the protosses takes him out.


apparently alicia's performing pretty well lately in hots, maybe he can pull it off
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
February 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#196
On February 23 2013 14:43 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 14:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What is Wolf talking about? That was the 3rd ZvT win.
MarineKing > Lucky
Maru < JKS
ByuN < JKS
Dream > SSanaEE
jjakji > Shine
jjakji > Monster
Ryung < RagnaroK
4 - 3

Maybe he meant macro games and not all ins or something?


Yep.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#197
On February 23 2013 14:45 Wolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 14:43 bo1b wrote:
On February 23 2013 14:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
What is Wolf talking about? That was the 3rd ZvT win.
MarineKing > Lucky
Maru < JKS
ByuN < JKS
Dream > SSanaEE
jjakji > Shine
jjakji > Monster
Ryung < RagnaroK
4 - 3

Maybe he meant macro games and not all ins or something?


Yep.

oh well my bad Wolf. Carry on
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Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
February 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#198
On February 23 2013 14:43 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 14:42 BigFan wrote:
that was pretty interesting. What does blinding cloud do? I thought it was like dark swarm so units have to move out?


it reduces the range of the units inside it to 1

Melee, not 1. Ultras have range 1 and it's longer thank else, its why they can attack from behind lings.
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Cuce
Profile Joined March 2011
Turkey1127 Posts
February 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#199
On February 23 2013 14:43 Orek wrote:
Blinding cloud is hard to see, but units under it is easy to see.
Dark swarm is easy to see, but units under it is hard to see.

I wonder where the middle ground lies and what color is the best for it.



I think best solution would have spell change color depending on tileset.

if map was cloud kingdom, I dont think we would have this many comments
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 23 2013 05:45 GMT
#200
On February 23 2013 14:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Does anyone know how good Alicia's PvZ is in HoTS? He beat some good P and T in that IPL6 qualifier but I don't think he played any zergs

It's probably decent if hes been focusing only on hots.
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