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Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
February 21 2013 11:52 GMT
#1401
you shouldnt be talking about balance. Last game was decided by how curious set himself up for the late game with his mid game play. He had 3 - 3 air at like 20 min lol
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 21 2013 11:52 GMT
#1402
Artosis is giving all sorts of helpful advice tonight.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 21 2013 11:52 GMT
#1403
On February 21 2013 20:49 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:48 hiru wrote:
What's zerg's weakest matchup you think? ZvZ?

God I can't wait for Hots to be released so all this "Zerg imba" can stop.

That way I have a chance to whine about balance. :D

You really missed out on the first 13 months or so huh
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
February 21 2013 11:53 GMT
#1404
you can't beat super late game zerg army head on. When it gets to the point where zerg throw lings away to get more broods or infestors, then that should be the que to get abunch of prism and start taking out structures and bases.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 21 2013 11:53 GMT
#1405
On February 21 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:49 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:48 hiru wrote:
What's zerg's weakest matchup you think? ZvZ?

God I can't wait for Hots to be released so all this "Zerg imba" can stop.

That way I have a chance to whine about balance. :D

You really missed out on the first 13 months or so huh

I did, yeah. I think I caught the last two or three months then my time as a balance whiner ended abruptly.
Long live the King of Wings
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
February 21 2013 11:53 GMT
#1406
On February 21 2013 20:49 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:44 Grumbels wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:43 ZenithM wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:42 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Curious' spine and spore usage is really impressive.

Impressive indeed.
When you start praising Zergs for their static defense buildings micro, you know it's time for HotS.

I feel like Artosis is the kind of person to always compliment the most abusive play. ^^ ("so beautiful how he goes for that turtle strategy!")


"Abusive" is just another word for "intelligent".

"Look how this Terran builds an SCV with his first 50minerals. This is so abusive. If his opponent started with 10Zerglings in his Base he would be dead."


What you say is true but your example is abit lol.
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
February 21 2013 11:53 GMT
#1407
Casters are so bad, they became too sure of themselves over time its just horrible to hear. Anyways very nice game, Curious had a cool idea there with the spores and speed overlords, when he got speed I was like "wut?" and the casters didn't even mention it.

The game would have looked so different in HotS with tempests instead of carriers (Parting only got 1 carrier at the start for forcing the engagement, since he couldn't make tempests yet), can't wait till release!!
Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
February 21 2013 11:53 GMT
#1408
I have to say that was uncharacteristically poor control from Parting... but I guess who really practices the nuance of WoL skytoss control. As MC showed, you need some colossi in there to help the carriers zone out infestors, tank broodling hits, and kill broodlings to protect your HTs. You also need more HTs than Parting had. And, Parting's vortex usage was just bad. Used it way too quickly and carelessly. Vortex is supposed to be your last option, not your first. Positioning is the most important aspect of skytoss control in that situation and vortex is like FF in that it can mold the battle field to your will.
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
February 21 2013 11:53 GMT
#1409
On February 21 2013 20:50 Bashion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:49 Grumbels wrote:
Blizzard buffed protoss air for situations like this in HotS, but now it'll be the opposite, where zerg can't deal with situations like this.

HOTS hasnt even been released yet. People cant make that kind of claim yet.

yeah, all those pros that switched and played it for weeks (some even months) cant have any idea at all
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
February 21 2013 11:54 GMT
#1410
This is pretty much a BO win for curious from this point barring any major fuck ups.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
February 21 2013 11:54 GMT
#1411
On February 21 2013 20:51 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:49 Coolhwip wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:47 Belha wrote:
Artosis said it, there is nothing a P can do in that situation vs a competent Z. Moving on.

But...but.. MC won one late game PvZ in ro32. It cant be unbalanced!

i don't think it's got anything to do with balance. parting got caught with his pants down to the mutas, tried to recover but never really did. then curious just choked him slowly like the psychopath he is.


Yep, Curious just won the early game, won the mid game and then won the late game.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
February 21 2013 11:54 GMT
#1412
On February 21 2013 20:51 Breach_hu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:49 Big J wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:44 Grumbels wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:43 ZenithM wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:42 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Curious' spine and spore usage is really impressive.

Impressive indeed.
When you start praising Zergs for their static defense buildings micro, you know it's time for HotS.

I feel like Artosis is the kind of person to always compliment the most abusive play. ^^ ("so beautiful how he goes for that turtle strategy!")


"Abusive" is just another word for "intelligent".

"Look how this Terran builds an SCV with his first 50minerals. This is so abusive. If his opponent started with 10Zerglings in his Base he would be dead."


Yeah, abusive means intelligently.

It's about perspective imo. From a winning/competitive standpoint the most abusive is the most intelligent, and from a "DATZ NAWT FAAAAAAIR QQ" standpoint the most abusive is the most imba.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 11:54:58
February 21 2013 11:54 GMT
#1413
Abusive play tends to be intelligent, not all intelligent play is abusive. :o
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 11:55:02
February 21 2013 11:54 GMT
#1414
On February 21 2013 20:53 looken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:50 Bashion wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:49 Grumbels wrote:
Blizzard buffed protoss air for situations like this in HotS, but now it'll be the opposite, where zerg can't deal with situations like this.

HOTS hasnt even been released yet. People cant make that kind of claim yet.

yeah, all those pros that switched and played it for weeks (some even months) cant have any idea at all

remember for the longest time protoss don't build immortals and terran don't make hellions? and zergs don't make drones
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 21 2013 11:55 GMT
#1415
Last game was what Life was supposed to do on Akilon Flats, but he chose to stay on Mutas instead and we all saw how that turned out. Curious played that out very smartly.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 21 2013 11:55 GMT
#1416
On February 21 2013 20:53 yrt123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:49 Big J wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:44 Grumbels wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:43 ZenithM wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:42 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Curious' spine and spore usage is really impressive.

Impressive indeed.
When you start praising Zergs for their static defense buildings micro, you know it's time for HotS.

I feel like Artosis is the kind of person to always compliment the most abusive play. ^^ ("so beautiful how he goes for that turtle strategy!")


"Abusive" is just another word for "intelligent".

"Look how this Terran builds an SCV with his first 50minerals. This is so abusive. If his opponent started with 10Zerglings in his Base he would be dead."


What you say is true but your example is abit lol.


Well, it's quite abusive to build an SCV with the first 50minerals, when you could instead get a barracks slightly faster. Completly abusing the fact that you won't need it. In no scenario ever.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
February 21 2013 11:55 GMT
#1417
blink instead of collosus.

good job parting
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
February 21 2013 11:55 GMT
#1418
On February 21 2013 20:53 LimitSEA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 20:52 bo1b wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:49 LimitSEA wrote:
On February 21 2013 20:48 hiru wrote:
What's zerg's weakest matchup you think? ZvZ?

God I can't wait for Hots to be released so all this "Zerg imba" can stop.

That way I have a chance to whine about balance. :D

You really missed out on the first 13 months or so huh

I did, yeah. I think I caught the last two or three months then my time as a balance whiner ended abruptly.

So you missed that time Artosis and IdrA felt the need to start a weekly show in which they talked about how overpowered protoss was vZ?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17688 Posts
February 21 2013 11:56 GMT
#1419
lol Tasteless, sentries holding hands crying behind forcefields lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
February 21 2013 11:56 GMT
#1420
On February 21 2013 20:55 sitromit wrote:
Last game was what Life was supposed to do on Akilon Flats, but he chose to stay on Mutas instead and we all saw how that turned out. Curious played that out very smartly.

Exactly.

Gotta just spine up after mutas get you a midgame advantage.
I love crazymoving
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