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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
January 29 2013 12:21 GMT
#1201
I'm surprised Tastosis was criticizing Byun's build + choice to not scout for this game. Cloaked Banshee is absolutely one of the safest, most versatile builds out there. Your opponent basically has to stay defensive or hit you with a really weird counter-build that is designed to kill early.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 29 2013 12:21 GMT
#1202
On January 29 2013 21:20 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know who I want to win this match. :< who would be better for LosirA to beat?


I think Ryung's TvZ is more 'solid'.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 29 2013 12:21 GMT
#1203
On January 29 2013 21:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro32 Group E
ByuN vs Ryung
Game 3
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
ByuN spawns in the top right
Ryung spawns in the bottom left

1:30
gas first for Byun
rax first for Ryung

2:00
rax for Byun
gas for Ryung

3:00
Factory for Byun
Ryung scv scout sees gas first and factory
tech lab for Byun
reactor for Ryung
2nd gas for Byun

4:00
Starport for Byun
hellion for Byun
factory for Ryung
CC on the high ground for Ryung

5:00
cloak starte dfor Byun
hellion scout from Byun sees factory landing on the reactor
banshee started for Byun
Starport for Ryung
2nd gas for Ryung
reactored hellion production for Ryung

6:00
viking for Ryung
bunker finishes for Byun
Ryung tries to move up Ryung's ramp with marines and hellions but backs off from the bunker
banshee flies into the main of Ryung
Ryung scans once but the banshee lives

7:00
2nd scan cleans up the banshee
Raven on the way for Ryung
9 scvs die to the first banshee
siege tank production started for Byun
CC finishes on the high ground for Byun

8:00
2nd banshee flies in but th raven spawns
1 mule and 2 scvs killed before the banshee dies
3rd CC started for Byun
cloak started for Ryung
2nd viking out for Ryung
banshee started for Ryung

9:00
siege mode research started for Byun
2 more rax for Byun

10:00
3rd gas for Byun
vikings land to kill Byun's hellion scout
medivac production started for Ryung
3rd CC started for Ryung
cloaked banshee of Ryung enters the main of byun
stim research started for Byun
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12179 Posts
January 29 2013 12:22 GMT
#1204
On January 29 2013 21:20 LimitSEA wrote:
I don't know who I want to win this match. :< who would be better for LosirA to beat?


Oh come on you know you want Ryung to win. Everyone from Ro8 finished 3rd of their group so far. We don't want that to end.
No will to live, no wish to die
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 29 2013 12:22 GMT
#1205
On January 29 2013 21:19 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:17 sAsImre wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:16 BisuDagger wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:14 sAsImre wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:12 BisuDagger wrote:
Imagine how different this game will be with free siege mode. Ryung with the research at the fifteenth minute. When it's free then that defense for him would have made this game even instead of putting him way behind.


You realized Ryund didn't have a siege tank when Byun pushed ?

Yeah he had tons of helions instead. But with freemode on tanks then he would probably have gotten one or two right away to help support him at home because it's so cost effective.


the 3rd fact finished when Byun was at his doorstep, wouldn't have changed anything in that game.

fair enough. So do you think proxy tank rushes could be more efficient then proxy marauder if you can hide the tech?


proxy reactor rax/factory are already really good, and it'll definitely be a lot ot better. But good scouting can deny it. And since tanks are not that slow you don't really need to proxy them anyway if you don't proxy the rax Imo it won't change that many things in TvT except that defense vs a lot of stuff will be easier, swap add ons and you've got a sieged tank :p

Proxy marau are still good but the problem is that a lot of builfs are in a range from very good to decent against it. It's not like you're ahead even if you're not spotted.
Zest fanboy.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
January 29 2013 12:24 GMT
#1206
On January 29 2013 21:17 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:16 govie wrote:
13% Protoss in gsl 2013. Maybe Protoss having more new units in hots is justified and blizzard was right?
basing such statements on one tournament has been proven a fallacy a long time ago.


It wasnt a statement, look at the questionmark?
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#1207
On January 29 2013 21:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro32 Group E
ByuN vs Ryung
Game 3
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
ByuN spawns in the top right
Ryung spawns in the bottom left

1:30
gas first for Byun
rax first for Ryung

2:00
rax for Byun
gas for Ryung

3:00
Factory for Byun
Ryung scv scout sees gas first and factory
tech lab for Byun
reactor for Ryung
2nd gas for Byun

4:00
Starport for Byun
hellion for Byun
factory for Ryung
CC on the high ground for Ryung

5:00
cloak starte dfor Byun
hellion scout from Byun sees factory landing on the reactor
banshee started for Byun
Starport for Ryung
2nd gas for Ryung
reactored hellion production for Ryung

6:00
viking for Ryung
bunker finishes for Byun
Ryung tries to move up Ryung's ramp with marines and hellions but backs off from the bunker
banshee flies into the main of Ryung
Ryung scans once but the banshee lives

7:00
2nd scan cleans up the banshee
Raven on the way for Ryung
9 scvs die to the first banshee
siege tank production started for Byun
CC finishes on the high ground for Byun

8:00
2nd banshee flies in but th raven spawns
1 mule and 2 scvs killed before the banshee dies
3rd CC started for Byun
cloak started for Ryung
2nd viking out for Ryung
banshee started for Ryung

9:00
siege mode research started for Byun
2 more rax for Byun

10:00
3rd gas for Byun
vikings land to kill Byun's hellion scout
medivac production started for Ryung
3rd CC started for Ryung
cloaked banshee of Ryung enters the main of byun
stim research started for Byun

11:00
2 scans and marines kill the banshee
2nd banshee arrives at the natural and byun has no scans
2 more factories for Ryung
combat shields for Byun
+1 attack started for Ryung
armory for Ryung

12:00
cloaked banshee from Byun enters the main of Ryung
6 scvs killed before Byun's banshee dies
byun is ahead by 13 workers
Marauder production started for Byun
2nd ebay and armory for Byun

13:00
siege mode on the way for Ryung
double tank production for Ryung
both players land their 3rd bases
2nd armory for Ryung
blue flame research started for Ryung
concussive shells started for Byun
+1 armor started for Byun

14:00
hellion runby tot he 3rd of byun is killed by bio
+2 attack started by Byun
Byun moving down the map towards the 3rd of Ryung

15:00
Byun scans the army of Ryung and backs off
sensor tower going up for Ryung
2 more factories for Ryung
2nd factory for Byun
3 more rax for Byun
2nd raven for Ryung
Byun changing his point of attack
Ryung repositioning his defense
2 hellion runby to the 3rd of Byun
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Deckard_Cain
Profile Joined February 2012
493 Posts
January 29 2013 12:25 GMT
#1208
They're having gold minerals on this map?!
love can change what we want
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
January 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#1209
On January 29 2013 21:22 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:19 BisuDagger wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:17 sAsImre wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:16 BisuDagger wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:14 sAsImre wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:12 BisuDagger wrote:
Imagine how different this game will be with free siege mode. Ryung with the research at the fifteenth minute. When it's free then that defense for him would have made this game even instead of putting him way behind.


You realized Ryund didn't have a siege tank when Byun pushed ?

Yeah he had tons of helions instead. But with freemode on tanks then he would probably have gotten one or two right away to help support him at home because it's so cost effective.


the 3rd fact finished when Byun was at his doorstep, wouldn't have changed anything in that game.

fair enough. So do you think proxy tank rushes could be more efficient then proxy marauder if you can hide the tech?


proxy reactor rax/factory are already really good, and it'll definitely be a lot ot better. But good scouting can deny it. And since tanks are not that slow you don't really need to proxy them anyway if you don't proxy the rax Imo it won't change that many things in TvT except that defense vs a lot of stuff will be easier, swap add ons and you've got a sieged tank :p

Proxy marau are still good but the problem is that a lot of builfs are in a range from very good to decent against it. It's not like you're ahead even if you're not spotted.

Bare with me now lol, now it seems like whoever goes mech can have a huge advantage by being able to get +1 weapons on the tank quicker by using freemode money on +1 instead.

Also wow what a hold by Ryung.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
January 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#1210
On January 29 2013 21:25 Deckard_Cain wrote:
They're having gold minerals on this map?!


Yes, in the middle
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#1211
there is a reason that explains why everyone is meching on planet S byun...
Zest fanboy.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
January 29 2013 12:26 GMT
#1212
Holy crap... doesn't Code S normally end by now?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
January 29 2013 12:27 GMT
#1213
On January 29 2013 21:26 Seeker wrote:
Holy crap... doesn't Code S normally end by now?


lol no
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 29 2013 12:27 GMT
#1214
Byun should drop that 3rd :/
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 29 2013 12:27 GMT
#1215
oh hey guys, team vvv disbanded.

I don't know anyone on that team but that sucks.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 29 2013 12:27 GMT
#1216
On January 29 2013 21:26 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:22 sAsImre wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:19 BisuDagger wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:17 sAsImre wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:16 BisuDagger wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:14 sAsImre wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:12 BisuDagger wrote:
Imagine how different this game will be with free siege mode. Ryung with the research at the fifteenth minute. When it's free then that defense for him would have made this game even instead of putting him way behind.


You realized Ryund didn't have a siege tank when Byun pushed ?

Yeah he had tons of helions instead. But with freemode on tanks then he would probably have gotten one or two right away to help support him at home because it's so cost effective.


the 3rd fact finished when Byun was at his doorstep, wouldn't have changed anything in that game.

fair enough. So do you think proxy tank rushes could be more efficient then proxy marauder if you can hide the tech?


proxy reactor rax/factory are already really good, and it'll definitely be a lot ot better. But good scouting can deny it. And since tanks are not that slow you don't really need to proxy them anyway if you don't proxy the rax Imo it won't change that many things in TvT except that defense vs a lot of stuff will be easier, swap add ons and you've got a sieged tank :p

Proxy marau are still good but the problem is that a lot of builfs are in a range from very good to decent against it. It's not like you're ahead even if you're not spotted.

Bare with me now lol, now it seems like whoever goes mech can have a huge advantage by being able to get +1 weapons on the tank quicker by using freemode money on +1 instead.

Also wow what a hold by Ryung.

you can get bfh + sieged tanks, that's really good. But the anti-mech stuff is really good too.
Zest fanboy.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
January 29 2013 12:27 GMT
#1217
On January 29 2013 21:24 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 21:17 Yorbon wrote:
On January 29 2013 21:16 govie wrote:
13% Protoss in gsl 2013. Maybe Protoss having more new units in hots is justified and blizzard was right?
basing such statements on one tournament has been proven a fallacy a long time ago.


It wasnt a statement, look at the questionmark?
i know, i just didn't see the relevance of the statistical fact and pre-countered any discussion regarding it.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 29 2013 12:28 GMT
#1218
On January 29 2013 21:27 Dodgin wrote:
oh hey guys, team vvv disbanded.

I don't know anyone on that team but that sucks.


They didn't actually have an sc2 roster so i can't really be bothered by that news. From what i've heard it wasn't exactly a very well run team either.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
January 29 2013 12:28 GMT
#1219
Flank but Ryung set up a trap on the high ground.. mmmm... tasty TvT!
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
January 29 2013 12:28 GMT
#1220
On January 29 2013 21:27 Dodgin wrote:
oh hey guys, team vvv disbanded.

I don't know anyone on that team but that sucks.

Yeah they were really active in the SC2 community at least the first two years. I haven't heard much from them in 2012.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
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