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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51549 Posts
January 26 2013 04:50 GMT
#341
On January 26 2013 13:47 Dosey wrote:
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On January 26 2013 13:46 AgentW wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:44 FeyFey wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:41 sashkata wrote:
wait what happened? I saw zerg win a battle I minimized and 30 sec latter every broodlord is dead.


you have to check the Resources as well. Doesn't matter if the Zerg wins the battle and has no bank. If the Protoss has resources left and the Zerg is not close to their spines they basically lost their whole army too. Atleast if Infestors are out of energy to cover the retreat.
And yeah the spine wall was at the Hive, bit to far away.

They also dont show health bars and the brood lords were hit by like 5 storms so they were probably all in the red/orange health region

Did this severely annoy anyone else or just me? I was wondering how close the fight was going to be but had no idea about the status of the BLs.


Legend should host an observer training camp and make some money off of these KeSPA amateurs.


apparently the hype is lost when you don't know if someone gonna make it or not...

you learn something new everyday.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 26 2013 04:50 GMT
#342
On January 26 2013 13:45 figq wrote:
Stop talking about storms. Brood lords have about a million HP. The point was Afrotoss had huge bank and warped in as many stalkers as he wished, so eventually all BLs were dead.

So... we might want to whine a bit about the instant warp in mechanic.


BL die to 3 full storms... A lot of the BLs took 2 full storms and then the stalkers killed them off.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 26 2013 04:50 GMT
#343
--- Nuked ---
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 26 2013 04:50 GMT
#344
On January 26 2013 13:45 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:42 sitromit wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:41 sashkata wrote:
wait what happened? I saw zerg win a battle I minimized and 30 sec latter every broodlord is dead.


Infestor nerf x 3 happened.


Yup, so now 5 base P can actually win against a 4 base Zerg now...


Yeah you're right Zerg has such a strong mobile army to deny those bases! All these bad Zerg players, just letting Toss take base after base! Why are they so damn bad? Why don't they just warp in a round of Zealots to kill bases like Protoss does?

Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
January 26 2013 04:50 GMT
#345
FLAAAASH
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
January 26 2013 04:50 GMT
#346
Flasshhhh
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
January 26 2013 04:50 GMT
#347
Come on Flash!!! You can do it sexy
#TheOneTrueDong
Vesky
Profile Joined January 2013
United States857 Posts
January 26 2013 04:51 GMT
#348
On January 26 2013 13:46 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:44 FeyFey wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:41 sashkata wrote:
wait what happened? I saw zerg win a battle I minimized and 30 sec latter every broodlord is dead.


you have to check the Resources as well. Doesn't matter if the Zerg wins the battle and has no bank. If the Protoss has resources left and the Zerg is not close to their spines they basically lost their whole army too. Atleast if Infestors are out of energy to cover the retreat.
And yeah the spine wall was at the Hive, bit to far away.

They also dont show health bars and the brood lords were hit by like 5 storms so they were probably all in the red/orange health region

Did this severely annoy anyone else or just me? I was wondering how close the fight was going to be but had no idea about the status of the BLs.


The health bar thing is really aggravating.

I personally like 'always on' for health bars, I understand how that can clutter the screen, but if you're going to turn them off you need a great observer (which they don't have).
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-26 04:51:24
January 26 2013 04:51 GMT
#349
On January 26 2013 13:41 Zenbrez wrote:
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On January 26 2013 13:40 SniXSniPe wrote:
Afrotoss wins... barely.

As stupid as that is :/

What? Really?



I mean he shouldn't have, "barely" won.
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
January 26 2013 04:51 GMT
#350
On January 26 2013 13:46 sparklyresidue wrote:
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On January 26 2013 13:45 geokilla wrote:
Hero needs to stop smoking... His teeth are terrible.

?? Does smoking make your teeth grow in crooked?


he just has to go to the dentist and have him put on braces for 1-2 year. worst 2 years of my life when I had them on (my teeth grew in a really fucked up way) but now they're beautiful and I can't explain how happy I was when the doc removed it
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
January 26 2013 04:52 GMT
#351
On January 26 2013 13:50 Emzeeshady wrote:
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On January 26 2013 13:47 StaplerPhone wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:44 Gorlin wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:43 StaplerPhone wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:41 haka wrote:
Wait... what? I swear it was over when Action got that np off...

Walking into like 8 storms and sitting there tends to lose you games.

How did he "walk into storms". It's not like storm lasts 10 seconds and he moved into it. His army was well spread, the two engaged, and Paralyze landed a bunch of great storms. What the fuck are you saying.

Maybe "walk into" was phrased poorly, I meant there were so many templar with storms ready. And his "spread" wasn't the best, two storms side by side covered most of the BL's. Not to say they weren't great storms just Action making mistakes during that engagement and not pulling back

you can't pull back with BL/Infestor...

Action engaged almost optimally and won the battle. He was too far behind in economy to reinforce and Paralyze killed him for it.

Not a full pull back obviously just back behind the watch tower to utilize the terrain since Paralyze didn't blink in right away
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
incoherent
Profile Joined November 2011
United States54 Posts
January 26 2013 04:52 GMT
#352
On January 26 2013 13:49 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:45 figq wrote:
Stop talking about storms. Brood lords have about a million HP. The point was Afrotoss had huge bank and warped in as many stalkers as he wished, so eventually all BLs were dead.

Why can't it be both?
Cuz the storms were not the essential thing here. The essential thing was protoss had huge bank. (+ protoss can produce units instantly in a burst without delay, so there's no time to retreat or anything)

His dozen or so stalkers he warped in would still die rather easily to the brood lords if they weren't all orange from eating a couple storms apiece. The storms softened them up fairly significantly: a BL has 225 health, which is a little less than 3 full storms.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
January 26 2013 04:52 GMT
#353
Wow, Entombed really does not favor Terran.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51549 Posts
January 26 2013 04:52 GMT
#354
On January 26 2013 13:51 SniXSniPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:41 Zenbrez wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:40 SniXSniPe wrote:
Afrotoss wins... barely.

As stupid as that is :/

What? Really?



I mean he shouldn't have, "barely" won.


that game was a war of attrition...he wanted an "actual" victory I guess.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
January 26 2013 04:52 GMT
#355
On January 26 2013 13:50 Gorlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:45 figq wrote:
Stop talking about storms. Brood lords have about a million HP. The point was Afrotoss had huge bank and warped in as many stalkers as he wished, so eventually all BLs were dead.

So... we might want to whine a bit about the instant warp in mechanic.

Don't be ridiculous. Stalkers couldn't have killed that many broodlords without the storm, nor would the result of that battle had changed if Action also had a bank. The warp in mechanic determined the outcome of the battle. It only determined the outcome of the game because Action did not have a comparable bank.
The main point is really the bank. And people hugely overestimated how many storms were there and how much damage they caused. And accusing Action of not dodging storms, as if BLs can really "dodge" anything.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 26 2013 04:53 GMT
#356
On January 26 2013 13:49 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:45 figq wrote:
Stop talking about storms. Brood lords have about a million HP. The point was Afrotoss had huge bank and warped in as many stalkers as he wished, so eventually all BLs were dead.

Why can't it be both?
Cuz the storms were not the essential thing here. The essential thing was protoss had huge bank. (+ protoss can produce units instantly in a burst without delay, so there's no time to retreat or anything)


This is stupid. Both were essential. And if you want to talk about unit production, Zerg has the best remax ability as well.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51549 Posts
January 26 2013 04:53 GMT
#357
On January 26 2013 13:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Wow, Entombed really does not favor Terran.


I've seen Flash play TvP on entombed, he'll be fine.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 26 2013 04:53 GMT
#358
IT IS FLASH TIME.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
January 26 2013 04:53 GMT
#359
On January 26 2013 13:47 StaplerPhone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:44 Gorlin wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:43 StaplerPhone wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:41 haka wrote:
Wait... what? I swear it was over when Action got that np off...

Walking into like 8 storms and sitting there tends to lose you games.

How did he "walk into storms". It's not like storm lasts 10 seconds and he moved into it. His army was well spread, the two engaged, and Paralyze landed a bunch of great storms. What the fuck are you saying.

Maybe "walk into" was phrased poorly, I meant there were so many templar with storms ready. And his "spread" wasn't the best, two storms side by side covered most of the BL's. Not to say they weren't great storms just Action making mistakes during that engagement and not pulling back

I disagree, but it is hard to determine for sure due to the slight ambiguity of the area covered by storm and the lack of healthbars. I know for certain, though, that it took closer to four storms to hit the Broodlords and I think that any wider of a spread probably would have left broodlords without cover from the support on the ground and too susceptible to stalkers.
I'm not sure at what point Action could have pulled back without taking heavy losses. He had been winning the battle, but the state of the economies definitely meant that Action would be unwise to not at least try to press his advantage.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
January 26 2013 04:53 GMT
#360
On January 26 2013 13:50 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 13:45 vthree wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:42 sitromit wrote:
On January 26 2013 13:41 sashkata wrote:
wait what happened? I saw zerg win a battle I minimized and 30 sec latter every broodlord is dead.


Infestor nerf x 3 happened.


Yup, so now 5 base P can actually win against a 4 base Zerg now...


Yeah you're right Zerg has such a strong mobile army to deny those bases! All these bad Zerg players, just letting Toss take base after base! Why are they so damn bad? Why don't they just warp in a round of Zealots to kill bases like Protoss does?




Because, you know, zerglings are never used in the blord/infestor comp and infestors definitely don't have a free unit that can be spawned for 25 energy and can wreck a base super quickly once you spawn like ~20 of them.
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