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On January 21 2013 17:52 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 17:50 justinpal wrote:On January 21 2013 17:46 Dosey wrote:On January 21 2013 17:39 ROOTheognis wrote:
lol baby played like total ass. wtf, when they showed his base he had like 5 supply drops. He also forgot his upgrades and never got a 4th. Meh, seemed really really shaky for a player of his caliber.
GG hero! I'm beginning to think his "caliber" isn't really all that high... Really though, who has he beaten? Brain (who?), Flash(mildly overrated and not very good at TvT), Symbol(very streaky himself), and a couple Bo1's against mid-tier terrans. He's shown some pretty good games, but is relatively unproven as a top tier player. He outplayed hero until he let all his ghosts die. It was smart of him to run around kill the third and snipe colossus with his vikings and then run back around. However, he stopped running around and attacked with his ghosts and the rest of hero's army caught up. Also, as you know he also decided not to snipe the colossus. It seemed like either he had a mental lapse of miscontrol, or he couldn't manage two or three control groups simultaneously. Up until then everything he did was smart. No, he didnt outplay hero at all. Not even close. Try something else dude because that map is heavily T favored against protoss and the fact that Baby tried so many times to snipe the third nexus isnt what you call "outplaying".
what the
He was wiping the floor with Hero until he fucked up that last engagement super bad and lost the game.
Also throwing out stuff like "heavily favored" on a map that probably doesn't even have 5 pro TvPs played on it ever is dumb.
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On January 21 2013 17:59 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Seeing baby use the supply drops really shows that he is still in experimentation mode and it could take much longer then we expected for the Kespa players do dominate.
it already has taken much longer than expected~
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On January 21 2013 17:51 DOUDOU wrote:
what is the title of the current song?
anyone know the name of the last song that was played during break?
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On January 21 2013 17:52 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 17:50 justinpal wrote:On January 21 2013 17:46 Dosey wrote:On January 21 2013 17:39 ROOTheognis wrote:
lol baby played like total ass. wtf, when they showed his base he had like 5 supply drops. He also forgot his upgrades and never got a 4th. Meh, seemed really really shaky for a player of his caliber.
GG hero! I'm beginning to think his "caliber" isn't really all that high... Really though, who has he beaten? Brain (who?), Flash(mildly overrated and not very good at TvT), Symbol(very streaky himself), and a couple Bo1's against mid-tier terrans. He's shown some pretty good games, but is relatively unproven as a top tier player. He outplayed hero until he let all his ghosts die. It was smart of him to run around kill the third and snipe colossus with his vikings and then run back around. However, he stopped running around and attacked with his ghosts and the rest of hero's army caught up. Also, as you know he also decided not to snipe the colossus. It seemed like either he had a mental lapse of miscontrol, or he couldn't manage two or three control groups simultaneously. Up until then everything he did was smart. No, he didnt outplay hero at all. Not even close. Try something else dude because that map is heavily T favored against protoss and the fact that Baby tried so many times to snipe the third nexus isnt what you call "outplaying".
Heavily terran favourite is not backed up with statistics from TLPD . 3 - 2 in favour of protoss in PvT shows that the map is playable .
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On January 21 2013 18:00 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 17:59 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Seeing baby use the supply drops really shows that he is still in experimentation mode and it could take much longer then we expected for the Kespa players do dominate. it already has taken much longer than expected~
if it took more then a week it was going to be longer then some people expected
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On January 21 2013 18:00 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 17:59 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Seeing baby use the supply drops really shows that he is still in experimentation mode and it could take much longer then we expected for the Kespa players do dominate. it already has taken much longer than expected~
I should have specified. Much much longer than expected 
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JYP is still better than Hero right? RIGHT???
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On January 21 2013 17:59 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Seeing baby use the supply drops really shows that he is still in experimentation mode and it could take much longer then we expected for the Kespa players do dominate.
At this point I think taking for granted that it will happen at all is a mistake. The Elephant Theory is so dead it's fossilized.
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On January 21 2013 18:04 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 17:59 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Seeing baby use the supply drops really shows that he is still in experimentation mode and it could take much longer then we expected for the Kespa players do dominate. At this point I think taking for granted that it will happen at all is a mistake. The Elephant Theory is so dead it's fossilized.
idk man, LG-IM First won IEM and he only started playing sc2 in feb/march of 2012. ELEPHANTS WINNING EVERYTHING!
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On January 21 2013 18:04 forsooth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 17:59 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Seeing baby use the supply drops really shows that he is still in experimentation mode and it could take much longer then we expected for the Kespa players do dominate. At this point I think taking for granted that it will happen at all is a mistake. The Elephant Theory is so dead it's fossilized.
Shall we refer to it as the Woolly Mammoth theory from here on?
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There are some exceptionally talented and strong guys from the Kespa side no doubt, but I am kinda glad this BW elitism has run its course to be honest
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On January 21 2013 18:08 Doublemint wrote:There are some exceptionally talented and strong guys from the Kespa side no doubt, but I am kinda glad this BW elitism has run its course to be honest
If you discount the fact that 90% of the players that have won something significant in SC2 were BW pros then yeah . The only notable players who don't have a BW background are Polt and Stephano i can't think of anyone else .
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On January 21 2013 18:15 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 18:08 Doublemint wrote:There are some exceptionally talented and strong guys from the Kespa side no doubt, but I am kinda glad this BW elitism has run its course to be honest If you discount the fact that 90% of the players that have won something significant in SC2 were BW pros then yeah . The only notable players who don't have a BW background are Polt and Stephano i can't think of anyone else .
i loled
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Jeez, JD lost ZvP again, when does he finally steps in?
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Damn i double post to much when not focused ...
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On January 21 2013 18:15 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 18:08 Doublemint wrote:There are some exceptionally talented and strong guys from the Kespa side no doubt, but I am kinda glad this BW elitism has run its course to be honest If you discount the fact that 90% of the players that have won something significant in SC2 were BW pros then yeah . The only notable players who don't have a BW background are Polt and Stephano i can't think of anyone else .
The BW elitism Doublemint is talking about is probably the idea that The Elephant in the Room was theorizing about (good/dominant players in BW coming over to SC2 and steamrolling the competition). If you instead decide to interpret it as "any player with a BW background regardless of record being good at SC2" then BW elitism doesn't even mean much anymore.
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On January 21 2013 18:15 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 18:08 Doublemint wrote:There are some exceptionally talented and strong guys from the Kespa side no doubt, but I am kinda glad this BW elitism has run its course to be honest If you discount the fact that 90% of the players that have won something significant in SC2 were BW pros then yeah . The only notable players who don't have a BW background are Polt and Stephano i can't think of anyone else .
Life?
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On January 21 2013 18:04 Meggiroth wrote:
JYP is still better than Hero right? RIGHT???
I'm seriously afraid every time they're picking someone that JYP will get sent out instead of HerO. Because JYP is "amazing at PvZ" or something like that... :S :S (NO HE'S NOT!!!! at least compared to HerO he's not, anyways)
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On January 21 2013 18:19 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 18:08 Doublemint wrote:There are some exceptionally talented and strong guys from the Kespa side no doubt, but I am kinda glad this BW elitism has run its course to be honest If you discount the fact that 95% of the players that have won something significant in SC2 were BW pros then yeah . The only notable players who don't have a BW background are Polt and Stephano i can't think of anyone else .
creator, life, taeja come to mind too.
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On January 21 2013 18:01 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 17:52 mongmong wrote:On January 21 2013 17:50 justinpal wrote:On January 21 2013 17:46 Dosey wrote:On January 21 2013 17:39 ROOTheognis wrote:
lol baby played like total ass. wtf, when they showed his base he had like 5 supply drops. He also forgot his upgrades and never got a 4th. Meh, seemed really really shaky for a player of his caliber.
GG hero! I'm beginning to think his "caliber" isn't really all that high... Really though, who has he beaten? Brain (who?), Flash(mildly overrated and not very good at TvT), Symbol(very streaky himself), and a couple Bo1's against mid-tier terrans. He's shown some pretty good games, but is relatively unproven as a top tier player. He outplayed hero until he let all his ghosts die. It was smart of him to run around kill the third and snipe colossus with his vikings and then run back around. However, he stopped running around and attacked with his ghosts and the rest of hero's army caught up. Also, as you know he also decided not to snipe the colossus. It seemed like either he had a mental lapse of miscontrol, or he couldn't manage two or three control groups simultaneously. Up until then everything he did was smart. No, he didnt outplay hero at all. Not even close. Try something else dude because that map is heavily T favored against protoss and the fact that Baby tried so many times to snipe the third nexus isnt what you call "outplaying". Heavily terran favourite is not backed up with statistics from TLPD . 3 - 2 in favour of protoss in PvT shows that the map is playable .
And you think such a small sample size of 5 is reliable enough to believe its not terran favoured. lol
This is like watching Sson beat Flash 2-0 and saying "oh they only played two games but Sson is a better player
than Flash!"
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