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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On January 12 2013 19:59 Ch3rry wrote: At least in the next match Stephano is going first. Just blindly put Taeja, Hero and JD after him and EG-TL should be ok. Ironically I think this is a decent strategy for success. I'm afraid we're "overcoaching" when we put in HuK or JYP for a particular situation. | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
I would have thus sent TaeJa. He did not get wrist surgery, just electrotherapy (judging by the Twitter picture). But let's assume he couldn't play, then instead I would have sent either ThorZaiN or Zenio (Jaedong apparently wasn't at the studio). ThorZaiN ain't too bad at TvZ and Zenio's best matchup is ZvZ. I hope EG-TL will play their players differently in the future. There's no point in giving exposure to everyone on the team when in the end you will lose more than half your matches in Proleague. Oh well. What's done is done. Thankfully I have Hydra on my FPL team. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:02 Proseat wrote: Hydra's best matchup is ZvP, his ZvZ is up there, and ZvT is his worst (cf. last week's game vs Speed). Hence I would not have sent a Protoss, especially not on Neo Caldeum after they reduced the armor and hit points of the rocks and blocking structures making it much harder for Protoss to secure their natural. I would have thus sent TaeJa. He did not get wrist surgery, just electrotherapy (judging by the Twitter picture). But let's assume he couldn't play, then instead I would have sent either ThorZaiN or Zenio (Jaedong apparently wasn't at the studio). ThorZaiN ain't too bad at TvZ and Zenio's best matchup is ZvZ. I hope EG-TL will play their players differently in the future. There's no point in giving exposure to everyone on the team when in the end you will lose more than half your matches in Proleague. Oh well. What's done is done. Thankfully I have Hydra on my FPL team. I don't think JD and PuMa are back from the US yet, or if they are they're probably super jet-lagged. I don't really have a problem with them going with JYP who has a "hot hand." and has been doing well. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:01 Jacmert wrote: Ironically I think this is a decent strategy for success. I'm afraid we're "overcoaching" when we put in HuK or JYP for a particular situation. It really is, even despite the TL aces' uninspired play lately. I don't know why a lot of people are blaming the map when it's clear that regardless, JYP did not look prepared *at all*. So it's either his fault for not preparing or the coach's fault for not sending someone else out. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:03 bokchoi wrote: I don't think JD and PuMa are back from the US yet, or if they are they're probably super jet-lagged. I don't really have a problem with them going with JYP who has a "hot hand." and has been doing well. They are back because Jaedong had to play in the up and down wild group 24 hours ago. They probably gave him today off so he could rest | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:00 Jacmert wrote: Yeah, but who did he play? And two of those wins came from this Round, where he got 2 wins in the winner's format. Two of HerO's losses were to Rain and Flash, and his other loss was because he failed to wall off against a Zerg. I don't remember his 4th loss. I don't understand. Are wins less meaningful because they're in winner's league format...? | ||
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rasers
Sweden691 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:00 Jacmert wrote: Yeah, but who did he play? And two of those wins came from this Round, where he got 2 wins in the winner's format. Two of HerO's losses were to Rain and Flash, and his other loss was because he failed to wall off against a Zerg. I don't remember his 4th loss. he did play Fantasy. easily on Flash/rain level. twice vs soo who is mb a little bit under rain/flash but not much and went 1-1 vs him and also won vs stork effort soulkey who are all 3 pretty stronk. don't see your point. "and 2 wins are from this aorund in winners league" ... they are still wins ... no? | ||
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His_fas
20 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote: So can we stop arguing about whether or not HerO > JYP in terms of a pick and focus on why exactly Taeja didn't play? His surgery obviously didn't stop him from sweeping his Up/Downs group. Because EG-TL coaches thinks that only because JYP has a good PvZ he should put him against everyfucking zerg when he has the oportunity...instead of sending the best player... | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5600 Posts
CJ fighting! Keep those guys out of the play off spots  | ||
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote: So can we stop arguing about whether or not HerO > JYP in terms of a pick and focus on why exactly Taeja didn't play? His surgery obviously didn't stop him from sweeping his Up/Downs group. I told you. He tweeted on the 9th. His group was the 7th. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_1/Up_and_Down SEE THE DATES? ONE CAME AFTER THE OTHER. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote: So can we stop arguing about whether or not HerO > JYP in terms of a pick and focus on why exactly Taeja didn't play? His surgery obviously didn't stop him from sweeping his Up/Downs group. What's to focus on? We have no information on it. All that can be assumed is that he was unable to play or he would have. | ||
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decado90
United States480 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote: It really is, even despite the TL aces' uninspired play lately. I don't know why a lot of people are blaming the map when it's clear that regardless, JYP did not look prepared *at all*. So it's either his fault for not preparing or the coach's fault for not sending someone else out. Thorzain streams hours upon hours of HOTS every week. JD and Puma were just at an event in Las Vegas. They release silly interview videos. Preparation obviously isn't their main priority. | ||
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xN.07)MaK
Spain1159 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:01 Jacmert wrote: Ironically I think this is a decent strategy for success. I'm afraid we're "overcoaching" when we put in HuK or JYP for a particular situation. You don't have to be a genius to do that. Vs teams that are not that deep as KT or EG-TL, this should work pretty much every time. Stephano and Taeja 100% of the time, and JD, Hero or Revival sent on their best matchups. If your goal is that everyone in the team has to get to play, then it is not surprising that from time to time you lose vs less deep teams. | ||
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:06 decado90 wrote: Thorzain streams hours upon hours of HOTS every week. JD and Puma were just at an event in Las Vegas. They release silly interview videos. Preparation obviously isn't their main priority. Those silly videos were all shot on the same day... You can tell by aLive being in the background of all of them... He was only there for a week according to Tfunk... | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:06 GolemMadness wrote: What's to focus on? We have no information on it. All that can be assumed is that he was unable to play or he would have. Just like last time right? Where neither HerO nor Taeja were "able to play". It just seems like the coaches wanna make everybody happy by playing everybody regardless of who the best players are. Good to see Stephano doing well though, not good to see him getting almost fucking DQed because he types "gl, hf". That's just fucked up. | ||
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esdf
Croatia736 Posts
also, why not send out jaedong, he is the zvz guy on EG-TL as ace. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
On January 12 2013 20:01 Jacmert wrote: Ironically I think this is a decent strategy for success. I'm afraid we're "overcoaching" when we put in HuK or JYP for a particular situation. "we" :D On January 12 2013 20:10 esdf wrote: lol hydra kills stephano and jyp :D also, why not send out jaedong, he is the zvz guy on EG-TL as ace. i guess he is tired as fuck after playing a tournament in the US, flying back to Korea and playing Up&Downs the day before. And they had two good Zergs, under normal circumstances there is no need for him. | ||
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