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Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 12 2013 11:11 GMT
#3101
On January 12 2013 20:10 esdf wrote:
lol hydra kills stephano and jyp :D

also, why not send out jaedong, he is the zvz guy on EG-TL as ace.

He wasn't there.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
January 12 2013 11:13 GMT
#3102
On January 12 2013 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 20:06 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So can we stop arguing about whether or not HerO > JYP in terms of a pick and focus on why exactly Taeja didn't play? His surgery obviously didn't stop him from sweeping his Up/Downs group.


What's to focus on? We have no information on it. All that can be assumed is that he was unable to play or he would have.


Just like last time right? Where neither HerO nor Taeja were "able to play". It just seems like the coaches wanna make everybody happy by playing everybody regardless of who the best players are. Good to see Stephano doing well though, not good to see him getting almost fucking DQed because he types "gl, hf". That's just fucked up.

Yeah seriously.. I was almost certain that he would be DQ'd for that. He would have if he wasn't a foreigner. Now theyll award him the MVP award instead
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
January 12 2013 11:15 GMT
#3103
On January 12 2013 20:01 Jacmert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 19:59 Ch3rry wrote:
At least in the next match Stephano is going first. Just blindly put Taeja, Hero and JD after him and EG-TL should be ok.

Ironically I think this is a decent strategy for success. I'm afraid we're "overcoaching" when we put in HuK or JYP for a particular situation.


"We" Dont do shit.
Amove for Aiur
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
January 12 2013 11:15 GMT
#3104
On January 12 2013 20:13 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:06 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So can we stop arguing about whether or not HerO > JYP in terms of a pick and focus on why exactly Taeja didn't play? His surgery obviously didn't stop him from sweeping his Up/Downs group.


What's to focus on? We have no information on it. All that can be assumed is that he was unable to play or he would have.


Just like last time right? Where neither HerO nor Taeja were "able to play". It just seems like the coaches wanna make everybody happy by playing everybody regardless of who the best players are. Good to see Stephano doing well though, not good to see him getting almost fucking DQed because he types "gl, hf". That's just fucked up.

Yeah seriously.. I was almost certain that he would be DQ'd for that. He would have if he wasn't a foreigner. Now theyll award him the MVP award instead

Yup. dat foreigner bonus :/
a korean would get a roundhouse kick out of the studio.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 12 2013 11:16 GMT
#3105
On January 12 2013 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 20:06 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So can we stop arguing about whether or not HerO > JYP in terms of a pick and focus on why exactly Taeja didn't play? His surgery obviously didn't stop him from sweeping his Up/Downs group.


What's to focus on? We have no information on it. All that can be assumed is that he was unable to play or he would have.


Just like last time right? Where neither HerO nor Taeja were "able to play". It just seems like the coaches wanna make everybody happy by playing everybody regardless of who the best players are. Good to see Stephano doing well though, not good to see him getting almost fucking DQed because he types "gl, hf". That's just fucked up.


Kespa tournaments have very strict regulations in this regard, unlike foreign ones where players can even banter and joke to the viewers' delight.

For further reading, BackHo's incidents.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
January 12 2013 11:19 GMT
#3106
On January 12 2013 19:42 Proseat wrote:
Scoring:
CJ +2
EGTL +1
Revival +2
herO[jOin] +5
Stephano +5
Hydra +7
all other CJ players +1

Stephano and Hydra got +1 bonus for 2-game streak breaks, if anyone is wondering.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
derpface
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden925 Posts
January 12 2013 11:21 GMT
#3107
Hydra FUCK YEAH!!! Show those foreigners that they are a long way from home.
gg no re #_< no1 Hydra and Leta fan >_#
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 12 2013 11:27 GMT
#3108
On January 12 2013 20:15 rasers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 20:13 Elroi wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:06 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So can we stop arguing about whether or not HerO > JYP in terms of a pick and focus on why exactly Taeja didn't play? His surgery obviously didn't stop him from sweeping his Up/Downs group.


What's to focus on? We have no information on it. All that can be assumed is that he was unable to play or he would have.


Just like last time right? Where neither HerO nor Taeja were "able to play". It just seems like the coaches wanna make everybody happy by playing everybody regardless of who the best players are. Good to see Stephano doing well though, not good to see him getting almost fucking DQed because he types "gl, hf". That's just fucked up.

Yeah seriously.. I was almost certain that he would be DQ'd for that. He would have if he wasn't a foreigner. Now theyll award him the MVP award instead

Yup. dat foreigner bonus :/
a korean would get a roundhouse kick out of the studio.


lol, maybe the old Kespa. But I think we had the similiar thing happening in Round 1. It was a ZvZ and the player that was winning accidently typed 'g' or ',' or something. And he only got a warning as well.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
January 12 2013 11:29 GMT
#3109
Next time will be for EG-TL!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
January 12 2013 11:30 GMT
#3110
On January 12 2013 20:29 SoJu.WeRRa wrote:
Next time will be for EG-TL!

With the first 4 maps being ladder maps and Stephano as starter that is pretty likely. He of course has to survive his first ZvZ.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 11:36:17
January 12 2013 11:31 GMT
#3111
Let's go through each player and choose the best possible ace:
HerO - Nervous as fuck in the booth, not confident in his own play recently, very emotional player. Admits PvZ is his worst match-up recently. Lost to Hydra in round 1 of Proleague.
TaeJa - Had an electrical acupuncture 3 days ago. Probably not able to play to his full ability.
Zenio - Known to be extremely nervous in the booth. Likes to be played first if possible. Probably not the best choice.
DeMusliM - In America.
HuK - Just got placed into Code S 2 days ago. Won against fellow KeSPA player Flying in his Up & Down group. Good choice to be sent out against herO, but probably didn't practice on the Neo version of Bifrost, which explains the botched forcefields.
IdrA - In America.
Jaedong & PuMa - Just arrived in Korea from the Kingston Hyper X 10 year anniversary tournament in Korea. Most likely jetlagged as fuck, didn't even show up to the studio. Probably sleeping right now.
JYP - 70% win rate against Zerg in the GSL, showed great form against SKT... until he played against soO on the exact same map.
Revival - played first, unable to play again.
Stephano - lost against Hydra.
ThorZaIN - practicing HotS close to daily on stream...

Looking at these options, it's a choice between Zenio and JYP... Both amazing against Zerg, but JYP gets less nervous than Zenio, he was clearly the best choice available. It's just a shame that Caldeum was the last map instead of Ohana.

edit - Not to mention that Hydra just beat Stephano, which would make Zenio more nervous because he's the same race.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 12 2013 11:39 GMT
#3112
On January 12 2013 20:31 Elite_ wrote:
Let's go through each player and choose the best possible ace:
HerO - Nervous as fuck in the booth, not confident in his own play recently, very emotional player. Admits PvZ is his worst match-up recently. Lost to Hydra in round 1 of Proleague.
TaeJa - Had an electrical acupuncture 3 days ago. Probably not able to play to his full ability.
Zenio - Known to be extremely nervous in the booth. Likes to be played first if possible. Probably not the best choice.
DeMusliM - In America.
HuK - Just got placed into Code S 2 days ago. Won against fellow KeSPA player Flying in his Up & Down group. Good choice to be sent out against herO, but probably didn't practice on the Neo version of Bifrost, which explains the botched forcefields.
IdrA - In America.
Jaedong & PuMa - Just arrived in Korea from the Kingston Hyper X 10 year anniversary tournament in Korea. Most likely jetlagged as fuck, didn't even show up to the studio. Probably sleeping right now.
JYP - 70% win rate against Zerg in the GSL, showed great form against SKT... until he played against soO on the exact same map.
Revival - played first, unable to play again.
Stephano - lost against Hydra.
ThorZaIN - practicing HotS close to daily on stream...

Looking at these options, it's a choice between Zenio and JYP... Both amazing against Zerg, but JYP gets less nervous than Zenio, he was clearly the best choice available. It's just a shame that Caldeum was the last map instead of Ohana.


No. You need to take the map into account. You NEED to. That's what ProLeague is based on. Not just who is doing good right now, who is nervous or not, who is jetlagged etc. If EG-TL wants to do better they need to seriously start taking maps into account and preparing really hard for individual maps, picking snipers and so on. This is what adds a whole 'nother layer of depth to team leagues and why it's so interesting and fun to watch. The fact that this is nothing new to Kespa teams is a big advantage toi have over EG-TL, even though on paper their line-ups might be (and most would agree) considerably weaker.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 12 2013 11:44 GMT
#3113
On January 12 2013 20:09 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 20:06 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:02 DarkLordOlli wrote:
So can we stop arguing about whether or not HerO > JYP in terms of a pick and focus on why exactly Taeja didn't play? His surgery obviously didn't stop him from sweeping his Up/Downs group.


What's to focus on? We have no information on it. All that can be assumed is that he was unable to play or he would have.


Just like last time right? Where neither HerO nor Taeja were "able to play". It just seems like the coaches wanna make everybody happy by playing everybody regardless of who the best players are. Good to see Stephano doing well though, not good to see him getting almost fucking DQed because he types "gl, hf". That's just fucked up.


You mean the match they won 4-2? You're right, though. It's probably just some conspiracy to make EG/TL do worse.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
January 12 2013 11:49 GMT
#3114
wow, didnt see that one coming

sAviOr must be proud

User was temp banned for this post.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 12 2013 11:50 GMT
#3115
On January 12 2013 20:49 Inzan1ty wrote:
wow, didnt see that one coming

sAviOr must be proud


...Really?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
January 12 2013 11:52 GMT
#3116
Fuck yeah CJ ! I am a little bit dissapointed in Effort i traded for him this week in FPL hoping to get me some wins , but Revival really does have solid ZvZ . At least Hydra is doing work for my FPL team best 3 pointer with free as well .
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
January 12 2013 11:52 GMT
#3117
On January 12 2013 20:50 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 20:49 Inzan1ty wrote:
wow, didnt see that one coming

sAviOr must be proud


...Really?


The spirit of the maestro is in all of them.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
January 12 2013 11:55 GMT
#3118
On January 12 2013 20:52 Inzan1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 20:50 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:49 Inzan1ty wrote:
wow, didnt see that one coming

sAviOr must be proud


...Really?


The spirit of the maestro is in all of them.


Oh please, none could ever come close. That guy was simply brilliant in how he played the game. ;_;
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
January 12 2013 11:57 GMT
#3119
looooooool. That*s what we get for JYP ace and Huk playing. That*s what we get for not using Hero or Taeja. That*s what we get because the coaches of *EG-TL* are actually hired by EG to be EG coaches. Sad about the loss but not that sad because I know why it happened.
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
January 12 2013 12:00 GMT
#3120
On January 12 2013 20:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 20:52 Inzan1ty wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:50 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 12 2013 20:49 Inzan1ty wrote:
wow, didnt see that one coming

sAviOr must be proud


...Really?


The spirit of the maestro is in all of them.


Oh please, none could ever come close. That guy was simply brilliant in how he played the game. ;_;


true, sAviOr > Jaedong at his peak ;_;
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
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