I didn't follow BW, so I don't really have any favorite KeSPA players. However, I must say that herO is someone I really look forward to watching and cheering for. He seems to have some personality and I hope that's able to shine in 2013.
Bit of a hype for Light, playing here against the then zerg herO[jOin]
Also I think he managed to All Kill a We.Made here with starborn Baby in the lineup? Or something like that.
And this back in 2007 before all mech boredoods showed up was pure glory. On a map which was highly tilting towards Zerg at the time.
I'm so sad that this guy always had the fucking hardest OSL groups even after the ODTs he fought through were nothing short of slaughterhouses too. This was his group from the OSL-in-which-Iris-lost-his-trophy-out-of-the-nowhere:
and then when a fan was just about starting to hope that he might go on to the Ro8 at least, came this: With a match against The sAviOr - opposed to the savior of the latter times - which still gives anyone the chills, I'm sure. And then there was still Flash and iloveoov.
This was still only a year after he was drafted. He continued to improve up to the point where he managed to get the most kills in the Winner's League, and almost broke iloveoov's TvZ all-time record of 33-3.
And now he is here with a 7-1 at his home turf; smiling calmly awaiting his next opponent; as the Shrike, enjoying what comes next: All-Kill Time.
Ps.: DAYUM, totallyforgotthematchesheplayed against Jaedong at bigfile. ;_;7 BCs, bio, basetrades and queens - He truly is my superterran ~<3~
thanks to JBright again for continuing to make these threads <3 Which banner do you guys like more? The proleague banner from wo1fwood or the AK? If you guys have any banners you want me to use for the other matches just PM them me and I can update the op template or whatever.
sOs Ohana herO Soulkey Antiga Shipyard herO Soulkey Planet S Bbyong Soulkey Bifrost EffOrt Free CalDeum EffOrt Free Cloud Kingdom Hydra ZerO Entombed Valley Hydra
On January 05 2013 07:34 Solstafir wrote: Predictions
sOs Ohana herO Soulkey Antiga Shipyard herO Soulkey Planet S Bbyong Soulkey Bifrost EffOrt Free CalDeum EffOrt Free Cloud Kingdom Hydra ZerO Entombed Valley Hydra
On January 05 2013 10:29 Talanthalos wrote: Casters: Supernovamaniac | Whiplash
Who are they? Are they worth staying up for? And what happened to the TeamLiquid-Casts?
They are casters in Korea, relative unknowns, and everyone hates them for reasons that are slightly beyond me. They make some mistakes, but will improve in time. I think it just revolves around the fact that TB and TLO etc lost the job because kespa decided to pick random people who weren't "entitled" enough..
On January 05 2013 10:29 Talanthalos wrote: Casters: Supernovamaniac | Whiplash
Who are they? Are they worth staying up for? And what happened to the TeamLiquid-Casts?
I think SNM is excellent and on top of things, think Artosis without the long-windedness and air of self-importance. He's very accurate in terms of explaining the strategies and strengths of the players.
Whiplash is struggling a little bit with pronunciation but I think he's kind of funny.
What I like is that they follow the climax of the game. You can see they're into it and it draws you in. Much better than having Tasteless stop casting in anticipation for his coffee break. ie "expect GG aaaany second now" while he is slowly getting off his chair, ready to take off his headset.
On January 05 2013 10:29 Talanthalos wrote: Casters: Supernovamaniac | Whiplash
Who are they? Are they worth staying up for? And what happened to the TeamLiquid-Casts?
I think SNM is excellent and on top of things, think Artosis without the long-windedness and air of self-importance. He's very accurate in terms of explaining the strategies and strengths of the players.
Whiplash is struggling a little bit with pronunciation but I think he's kind of funny.
What I like is that they follow the climax of the game. You can see they're into it and it draws you in. Much better than having Tasteless stop casting in anticipation for his coffee break. ie "expect GG aaaany second now" while he is slowly getting off his chair, ready to take off his headset.
I think you have them backwards. SNM has the thicker accent. Whiplash is the analyst, if I recall correctly.
On January 05 2013 10:29 Talanthalos wrote: Casters: Supernovamaniac | Whiplash
Who are they? Are they worth staying up for? And what happened to the TeamLiquid-Casts?
I think SNM is excellent and on top of things, think Artosis without the long-windedness and air of self-importance. He's very accurate in terms of explaining the strategies and strengths of the players.
Whiplash is struggling a little bit with pronunciation but I think he's kind of funny.
What I like is that they follow the climax of the game. You can see they're into it and it draws you in. Much better than having Tasteless stop casting in anticipation for his coffee break. ie "expect GG aaaany second now" while he is slowly getting off his chair, ready to take off his headset.
I think you have them backwards. SNM has the thicker accent. Whiplash is the analyst, if I recall correctly.
Also, c'mon herO! Show dat smile, bro!
Yeah, I've been looking at vods and came back here to correct myself!
On January 05 2013 10:29 Talanthalos wrote: Casters: Supernovamaniac | Whiplash
Who are they? Are they worth staying up for? And what happened to the TeamLiquid-Casts?
I think SNM is excellent and on top of things, think Artosis without the long-windedness and air of self-importance. He's very accurate in terms of explaining the strategies and strengths of the players.
Whiplash is struggling a little bit with pronunciation but I think he's kind of funny.
What I like is that they follow the climax of the game. You can see they're into it and it draws you in. Much better than having Tasteless stop casting in anticipation for his coffee break. ie "expect GG aaaany second now" while he is slowly getting off his chair, ready to take off his headset.
I think you have them backwards. SNM has the thicker accent. Whiplash is the analyst, if I recall correctly.
Also, c'mon herO! Show dat smile, bro!
Yeah, I've been looking at vods and came back here to correct myself!
Sorry SNM and whiplash. My bad.
Whichever way it is, the accent gets kinda annoying for me :/. Also, there's definitely room for improvement in the casters' game knowledge. I remember a TvT (Puma versus Fantasy I believe) where a player was going for the reaper hellion medivac elevator all in, and they were confused by the build...That, and they sometimes have awkward pauses that they either don't fill up or fill up kinda poorly. That said, I'm sure they'll get better with time. I wish I could hear that awesomesauce dario casting though
On January 05 2013 07:34 Solstafir wrote: Predictions
sOs Ohana herO Soulkey Antiga Shipyard herO Soulkey Planet S Bbyong Soulkey Bifrost EffOrt Free CalDeum EffOrt Free Cloud Kingdom Hydra ZerO Entombed Valley Hydra
On January 05 2013 10:29 Talanthalos wrote: Casters: Supernovamaniac | Whiplash
Who are they? Are they worth staying up for? And what happened to the TeamLiquid-Casts?
I think SNM is excellent and on top of things, think Artosis without the long-windedness and air of self-importance. He's very accurate in terms of explaining the strategies and strengths of the players.
Whiplash is struggling a little bit with pronunciation but I think he's kind of funny.
What I like is that they follow the climax of the game. You can see they're into it and it draws you in. Much better than having Tasteless stop casting in anticipation for his coffee break. ie "expect GG aaaany second now" while he is slowly getting off his chair, ready to take off his headset.
I think you have them backwards. SNM has the thicker accent. Whiplash is the analyst, if I recall correctly.
Also, c'mon herO! Show dat smile, bro!
Yeah, I've been looking at vods and came back here to correct myself!
Sorry SNM and whiplash. My bad.
Thanks for the clarification. Your initial post drew a serious head tilt of confusion at my monitor as I haven't watched PL super recently and was wondering if the body snatchers had attacked.
Just looked at he rosters for both teams and saw the new liquipedia - SICK! Looks like no really good terrans on both teams. I hope for some terran action either way.
On January 05 2013 12:08 Dirkinity wrote: Just looked at he rosters for both teams and saw the new liquipedia - SICK! Looks like no really good terrans on both teams. I hope for some terran action either way.
Sin (BrAvO) is a good TvT player, Light is still a question mark but is possibly still a beast.
On January 05 2013 04:24 TommyP wrote: what is it with KeSPA teams sending their ace out first? see KT vs. EGTL
4-0 is worth more then winning with a closer score so it would be wise to send your best player out to hope for an all kill.
yea but the chances of all-kill arent high. Its better to play safe and grab the win I would think.
The teams that are doing that have just as capable players to hold in reserve; KT has stats, EG-TL has... everyone, SKT has Rain, Woongjin has Soulkey and CJ has Effort.
On January 05 2013 12:08 Dirkinity wrote: Just looked at he rosters for both teams and saw the new liquipedia - SICK! Looks like no really good terrans on both teams. I hope for some terran action either way.
Sin (BrAvO) is a good TvT player, Light is still a question mark but is possibly still a beast.
CJ has Bbyong and sKyHigh... I would expect one of them to play, but not both, so I'm not sure BrAvO will see playtime because of it =(
On January 05 2013 12:08 Dirkinity wrote: Just looked at he rosters for both teams and saw the new liquipedia - SICK! Looks like no really good terrans on both teams. I hope for some terran action either way.
Sin (BrAvO) is a good TvT player, Light is still a question mark but is possibly still a beast.
CJ has Bbyong and sKyHigh... I would expect one of them to play, but not both, so I'm not sure BrAvO will see playtime because of it =(
People have said a lot that WL-mode gives better chance to smaller teams. I strongly disagree. Bigger teams actually have more material to prepare very specific snipers for each match and possible situation. I expect bigger teams to get to use quite a lot of their less known players here and there, when the sniping goals require it.
Sigh. sHy and ZerO you were so good for me the first round but with your point values increasing my FPL team can no longer afford you. Best of luck! I will root for you out of loyalty.
On January 05 2013 12:08 Dirkinity wrote: Just looked at he rosters for both teams and saw the new liquipedia - SICK! Looks like no really good terrans on both teams. I hope for some terran action either way.
Sin (BrAvO) is a good TvT player, Light is still a question mark but is possibly still a beast.
Light is no questionmark to me. I laughed when I saw he was worth so little points in FPL and took him as my ace. He's looked great in every game I've seen him, he just hasn't been given a lot of playing time.
On January 05 2013 12:17 figq wrote: People have said a lot that WL-mode gives better chance to smaller teams. I strongly disagree. Bigger teams actually have more material to prepare very specific snipers for each match and possible situation. I expect bigger teams to get to use quite a lot of their less known players here and there, when the sniping goals require it.
Probably. Although EGTL, because of their team make-up sans Jaedong, have a lot of players that are used to playing winner's league formats and are better rounded players - less likely to be a single match up sniper, and have a chance for better longevity in the match picking up multiple wins.
Of course, since we haven't seen the KeSPA elite in this format with this game, maybe we'll be surprised.
Let's find out!
(And always, with the Ohana family joke... Somewhere, Mr. Bitter is giggling maniacly.)
On January 05 2013 12:14 whirlpool wrote: hoping for flying gets 2-3 kills lol hes so cheap
Flying is probably playing this round. KotH is often a matter of confidence and Flying is a competent player that went 0-4. I doubt he will be able to regain the edge this round. free should be played against zerg ahead of him.
On January 05 2013 12:08 Dirkinity wrote: Just looked at he rosters for both teams and saw the new liquipedia - SICK! Looks like no really good terrans on both teams. I hope for some terran action either way.
Sin (BrAvO) is a good TvT player, Light is still a question mark but is possibly still a beast.
CJ has Bbyong and sKyHigh... I would expect one of them to play, but not both, so I'm not sure BrAvO will see playtime because of it =(
Bbyong is the top terran on CJ and they follow a per match player system which could have him play quite a few match if the conditions are right. EffOrt will be played ahead of him but he should still be the 3rd wheel of CJ.
On January 05 2013 12:17 figq wrote: People have said a lot that WL-mode gives better chance to smaller teams. I strongly disagree. Bigger teams actually have more material to prepare very specific snipers for each match and possible situation. I expect bigger teams to get to use quite a lot of their less known players here and there, when the sniping goals require it.
You took that statement the wrong way. Smaller teams need less help from their supporting players which levels the playing field. But the better teams often have the better aces (like SKT)
God damnit herO I needed you to win one game for me... I have sOs on my anti for just this week until I can trade him for Stephano T.T with my luck sOs is gonna now AK and ruin my FPL from week one D:
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 1: 0-0 sOs vs herO Map: Ohana
0:00 sOs spawns in the top right herO spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for sOs gateway first for herO gas for herO
2:00 gas for sOs 2nd gas for herO Cybernetics core for herO Cybernetics core for sOs
3:00 2nd gas for sOs 3 probes on each assimilator for herO zealot for herO zealot for sOs sentry for herO sentry for sOs
4:00 Twilight council for sOs Stargate for herO 2nd sentry for herO zealot for sOs 2nd gate for herO Dark Shrine for sOs
5:00 phoenix production started for herO Nexus started for sOs 2nd gate for sOs First phoenix moves out for herO robo for herO 3rd gate for sOs
6:00 4th gate for sOs Phoenix of herO scouts the dark shrine as it finishes Dark shrine warped in near herO's 3rd base area observer on the way for herO forcefield on herO's main ramp to block out the DT
7:00 immortal production started for herO nexus started for herO archon started for sOs with his next 2 DTs after the first is killed sOs chronoboosting his gateways zealot archon attack at herO's base
8:00 sOs moves into the main with his archon gateway force probes are pulled to defend 2nd immortal comes out for herO to defend 1 immortal falls to zealots phoenixes are trying to lift and help archon is finally killed by immortal + probes
9:00 sOs is just rallying warp in reinforcements into herO's main natural nexus of herO is killed sOs is 20 supply up more stalkers are coming in probes get a surround on the stalkers but there is too much herO retreats back to his main mineral line
10:00 herO is down by 15 probes probes are still fighting the stalkers of sOs sOs is trying to kite around the base and target fire herO's stalkers the phoenixes are dead herO ggs! sOs wins and gives Woongjin Stars a 1-0 lead!
Hero coul'va FF his ramp a bit long against the Archon-Zealot army - he thought he could handle this army upstairs, but the push was harder than he expected .
On January 05 2013 12:30 Emptyness wrote: Hero coul'va FF his ramp a bit long against the Archon-Zealot army - he thought he could handle this army upstairs, but the push was harder than he expected .
On January 05 2013 12:30 Emptyness wrote: Hero coul'va FF his ramp a bit long against the Archon-Zealot army - he thought he could handle this army upstairs, but the push was harder than he expected .
On January 05 2013 12:30 Emptyness wrote: Hero coul'va FF his ramp a bit long against the Archon-Zealot army - he thought he could handle this army upstairs, but the push was harder than he expected .
You can't hold a ramp against archon they're massif.
On January 05 2013 12:30 Emptyness wrote: Hero coul'va FF his ramp a bit long against the Archon-Zealot army - he thought he could handle this army upstairs, but the push was harder than he expected .
You can't hold a ramp against archon they're massif.
Aha, I see now, sorry, didn't know that . But thanks for the info.
On January 05 2013 12:33 AgentW wrote: Should have considered it was a PvP before I decided to shower before the matches. Anyone have a quick recap?
Hero goes Phenix sOs goes DT expand Hero plays very safe with lots of sentries and an observer sOs gets an archon to break the ffs and breaks into Hero's base and kills him
Off of an expand? That's kind of weird, but I suppose sentries and phoenix can't really touch an archon :D
On January 05 2013 12:33 AgentW wrote: Should have considered it was a PvP before I decided to shower before the matches. Anyone have a quick recap?
Hero goes Phenix sOs goes DT expand Hero plays very safe with lots of sentries and an observer sOs gets an archon to break the ffs and breaks into Hero's base and kills him
herO mistake was too pick immo over stalkers. Zealot/Archon is the natural follow-up of DT opening, a Blink play comes slightly latter.
On January 05 2013 12:33 AgentW wrote: Should have considered it was a PvP before I decided to shower before the matches. Anyone have a quick recap?
Hero goes Phenix sOs goes DT expand Hero plays very safe with lots of sentries and an observer sOs gets an archon to break the ffs and breaks into Hero's base and kills him
Off of an expand? That's kind of weird, but I suppose sentries and phoenix can't really touch an archon :D
he cut workers (didnt make like usual for expanding), chronoed gates
On January 05 2013 12:37 UnKooL wrote: Did shy just revolutionize pvp?
No, not really. DT expands have been around for a while, and archon is generally the DT followup. It's just that twilight tech is usually pretty good against Pheonix.
Hydra wins a game, but loses to random woongjin terran. Leta shows up and becomes the bisu of WoL (hots gets pushed back 'cause Blizzard). Dominates everyone. That fan that cheered for woongjin cries and Leta comes outta the booth with a dress on dancin' like never before. Jaedong runs into the studio and joins him. StarCraft (2, tho) wins the E-Sports war.
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 2: 1-0 sOs vs Hydra Map: Antiga Shipyard
0:00 sOs spawns in the bottom right Hydra spawns in the top left
2:00 pool first for Hydra Nexus first for sOs Hatch for Hydra forge for sOs
3:00 gateway for sOs cannon for sOs gas for sOs
4:00 3rd base for Hydra 2nd gas for sOs Cybernetics core for sOs
5:00 stalker for sOs Stargate for sOs double gas for Hydra 3rd gas for sOs 4th gas for sOs
6:00 overlord scout is killed phoenix production started for sOs Roach warren for Hydra
7:00 ling speed started for Hydra +1 attack started for sOs phoenix is revealed to start killing overlords 2 more gates for sOs Roach production started for Hydra 4th gate for sOs
8:00 Lair started for Hydra Robo started for sOs evo on the way for Hydra 3 phoenixes picking off overlords now 2nd cannon started for sOs spores started for Hydra ling roach attack moving across the map is scouted by a phoenix 3rd and 4th cannons started for sOs
9:00 void ray started for sOs +1 carapace started for Hydra Hydra attacking at the natural forcefields push away the lings the cannons are finishing up void ray comes out Hydra den started for Hydra 4 phoenixes are picking off all of the queens
10:00 Hydra retreats with the rest of his roaches and lings Grooved spines and Roach spped started for Hydra +1 armor started for sOs 2 more gates for sOs Phoenixes pick off another queen and start killing more overlords 3rd base started for sOs Robo bay started for sOs immortal production started for sOs
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 2: 1-0 sOs vs Hydra Map: Antiga Shipyard
0:00 sOs spawns in the bottom right Hydra spawns in the top left
2:00 pool first for Hydra Nexus first for sOs Hatch for Hydra forge for sOs
3:00 gateway for sOs cannon for sOs gas for sOs
4:00 3rd base for Hydra 2nd gas for sOs Cybernetics core for sOs
5:00 stalker for sOs Stargate for sOs double gas for Hydra 3rd gas for sOs 4th gas for sOs
6:00 overlord scout is killed phoenix production started for sOs Roach warren for Hydra
7:00 ling speed started for Hydra +1 attack started for sOs phoenix is revealed to start killing overlords 2 more gates for sOs Roach production started for Hydra 4th gate for sOs
8:00 Lair started for Hydra Robo started for sOs evo on the way for Hydra 3 phoenixes picking off overlords now 2nd cannon started for sOs spores started for Hydra ling roach attack moving across the map is scouted by a phoenix 3rd and 4th cannons started for sOs
9:00 void ray started for sOs +1 carapace started for Hydra Hydra attacking at the natural forcefields push away the lings the cannons are finishing up void ray comes out Hydra den started for Hydra 4 phoenixes are picking off all of the queens
10:00 Hydra retreats with the rest of his roaches and lings Grooved spines and Roach spped started for Hydra +1 armor started for sOs 2 more gates for sOs Phoenixes pick off another queen and start killing more overlords 3rd base started for sOs Robo bay started for sOs immortal production started for sOs
11:00 more roaches on the way for Hydra phoenixes keep picking off overlords and drones
12:00 +1 range attack started for Hydra Colossus production started for sOs Roach hydra force moving across the map Hydra is breaking down the rocks to sOs' 3rd
13:00 Roaches and hydras engage the protoss army first colossus comes out but Roaches close the distance the colossus falls Hydras are still alive doing lots of damage Hydra takes a 90 supply lead 2nd colossus is on the way with range almost done Spire finishes for Hydra
14:00 Hydra pushes into the natural 2nd colossus comes out but roaches are able to pick it off mass roach rally across the map into the natural of sOs roaches are now breaking into the main sOs has to gg! Hydra wins and ties the score!
On January 05 2013 12:54 fuzzylogic44 wrote: Has there been a PvZ on Planet S yet?
Yeah. vs that new guy Comet and he just got gold base roach rushed but I dont remember who the zerg was They moved the gold base location on Neo Planet S because of that game
Free coming out. Soulkey is probably now last resort. Considering that WJS have two aces, they will save one of the two for the last match and in this case it will be soulkey.
On January 05 2013 12:54 Emptyness wrote: Sos did some good harass with those 4 Phoenixes, but he went for a 3rd without much ground army .
And those colosi needed range upgrade and perhaps to be on the high ground . Especiallz the first one .
Ahhh finally an interesting analysis. Hydra was planning for a timing with hydras and the appropriate answer to that is the colossus deathball on 2 bases. The last engagement was kinda bad too.
On January 05 2013 12:54 Emptyness wrote: And those colosi needed range upgrade and perhaps to be on the high ground . Especiallz the first one .
Totally agree. Hydra had no way of spotting high ground, and sHy putting that collossi on the high ground would have done a LOT more for him than it did. Might just have pushed Hydra to go after the third though, which would have ended the game just as well.
Edit: Probably should have just puled in the phoenix to lift roaches as well, just for the hell of it. Sure he would have lost them, but 5 less roaches on the ground means his army and cannon live longer, and it's better to risk losing them than lose the game. Oh well.
On January 05 2013 13:00 Inviteme wrote: where can I find my round 2 fantasy team?? I made it but somehow I cant find it... It only shows me my round 1 fantasy team..
On January 05 2013 13:00 Inviteme wrote: where can I find my round 2 fantasy team?? I made it but somehow I cant find it... It only shows me my round 1 fantasy team..
OH GOD. PLEASE LOSE. I put him on my Anti-Team for a reason.
And what's the reason? I run a big table of R1 scores and current price. Free was the most valuable 3 pointer protoss in the league and among the top most valuable 3 pointers overall in the league. He is very underrated but brings the score to your team.
On January 05 2013 12:59 opterown wrote: amusing to see how much FPL makes people more invested in seeing certain players or teams do well :p
Indeed. It has sparkles a lot of interest for a mediocre league (in term of fanterest and playing level).
I wonder what would be the public's answer to a foreign proleague.
you mean like IPL's team league (winner's league format), or EG's masters cup (proleague format)? Mediocre response.
maybe if they had an FPL for it too :p
There's so many troubles with these on-line leagues Teams forfeit matches, don't have enough players, play with sub-par line-up because the main players couldn't play...
On January 05 2013 12:59 opterown wrote: amusing to see how much FPL makes people more invested in seeing certain players or teams do well :p
Indeed. It has sparkles a lot of interest for a mediocre league (in term of fanterest and playing level).
I wonder what would be the public's answer to a foreign proleague.
you mean like IPL's team league (winner's league format), or EG's masters cup (proleague format)? Mediocre response.
maybe if they had an FPL for it too :p
Well we are doing it from round to round. I wish we would extend it though but it's tricky with round 2 being winners league. We do need longer periods for the FPL though or else it's too short even with every team playing two matches a week.
On January 05 2013 12:59 opterown wrote: amusing to see how much FPL makes people more invested in seeing certain players or teams do well :p
Indeed. It has sparkles a lot of interest for a mediocre league (in term of fanterest and playing level).
I wonder what would be the public's answer to a foreign proleague.
you mean like IPL's team league (winner's league format), or EG's masters cup (proleague format)? Mediocre response.
maybe if they had an FPL for it too :p
Well we are doing it from round to round. I wish we would extend it though but it's tricky with round 2 being winners league. We do need longer periods for the FPL though or else it's too short even with every team playing two matches a week.
The next two rounds are both a return to the proleague format, so I wonder if we'll perhaps see a 2-round FPL?
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 3: 1-1 free vs Hydra Map: Neo Planet S
0:00 free spawns in the bottom left Hydra spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Hydra Nexus first from free Hatch for Hydra
3:00 forge for free gateway for free cannon for free
4:00 double gas for free 3rd base for Hydra Cybernetics core for free
5:00 stalker for free double gas for Hydra stargate for free
6:00 2 more gas for free sentry for free Roach warren for Hydra ling speed for Hydra
7:00 phoenix production started for free free hiding his phoenixes -- 2nd on the way overlord gets the scout off evo chamber started 30 lings and 8 roache started
8:00 3 more gates started for free Lair started for Hydra free going up to 8 gates +1 range attack started for Hydra phoenixes scout roaches moving across the map extra cannons started
9:00 Hydra begins attacking the gateway at the front wall off is killed phoenixes are picking up roaches and sentries are forcefielding Roach speed started for Hydra Hydra den started for Hydra Hydra backs off with his units Void ray comes out Hydra has lost 2000 more resources
10:00 spores finish at each base's mineral line macro hatch for Hydra phoenixes begin picking off queens free moving across the map with his gateway force Hydra range started Hydra production started +1 attack on the way for free
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 3: 1-1 free vs Hydra Map: Neo Planet S
0:00 free spawns in the bottom left Hydra spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Hydra Nexus first from free Hatch for Hydra
3:00 forge for free gateway for free cannon for free
4:00 double gas for free 3rd base for Hydra Cybernetics core for free
5:00 stalker for free double gas for Hydra stargate for free
6:00 2 more gas for free sentry for free Roach warren for Hydra ling speed for Hydra
7:00 phoenix production started for free free hiding his phoenixes -- 2nd on the way overlord gets the scout off evo chamber started 30 lings and 8 roache started
8:00 3 more gates started for free Lair started for Hydra free going up to 8 gates +1 range attack started for Hydra phoenixes scout roaches moving across the map extra cannons started
9:00 Hydra begins attacking the gateway at the front wall off is killed phoenixes are picking up roaches and sentries are forcefielding Roach speed started for Hydra Hydra den started for Hydra Hydra backs off with his units Void ray comes out Hydra has lost 2000 more resources
10:00 spores finish at each base's mineral line macro hatch for Hydra phoenixes begin picking off queens free moving across the map with his gateway force Hydra range started Hydra production started +1 attack on the way for free
11:00 free is attacking into the natural forcefield traps some of the hydras back drones are pulled to help defend in the natural queens are picked off
12:00 drones are pulled again in the natural to fight lings are cleaned up there are just some hydras and roaches left free takes a supply loead more and more lings coming in queens trying to transfuse
13:00 the hydras are being cleaned up free is 30 supply ahead natural hatchery of Hydra is killed free moves into the main with his gateway army Hydra ggs! free wins and gives Woongjin Stars the 2-1 lead!
i wonder how much prep actually goes into map-specific practice considering there are so many scenarios possible with all-kill format, with two matches per week too
On January 05 2013 13:15 opterown wrote: i wonder how much prep actually goes into map-specific practice considering there are so many scenarios possible with all-kill format, with two matches per week too
Knowing the alleged KeSPA training, probably a disgusting amount of time.
Anyone taking bets that someone snipes Free? No one?
On January 05 2013 13:07 ExceeD_DreaM wrote: Another good protoss player from CJ Entus, Hydra. LOL. These casters constantly making these annoying mistakes..
YAY Hydra my FPL!!
The mistakes are just absolutely brutal to listen to sometimes, not always but it is in crucial fights that determine the games outcome. I was only a GM zerg in north america (which in korean terms isnt very good) but man its just hurts to listen to sometimes simplistic mistakes that make it sound so much worse. I dunno if its nerves or w.e on their part but I just cant find it acceptable that its still like this in round 2 of proleague when they've been casting for a good bit. I feel like they really need to go back watch the VODs of their casting and fix it based on that if they wanna improve. I don't think its really possible to improve that much in a short time just off feedback they really gotta hear their own casting to see just how awful sometimes it can be. It isn't always bad but when its bad its bad lol ah well hopefully they improve.
On January 05 2013 13:07 ExceeD_DreaM wrote: Another good protoss player from CJ Entus, Hydra. LOL. These casters constantly making these annoying mistakes..
YAY Hydra my FPL!!
The mistakes are just absolutely brutal to listen to sometimes, not always but it is in crucial fights that determine the games outcome. I was only a GM zerg in north america (which in korean terms isnt very good) but man its just hurts to listen to sometimes simplistic mistakes that make it sound so much worse. I dunno if its nerves or w.e on their part but I just cant find it acceptable that its still like this in round 2 of proleague when they've been casting for a good bit. I feel like they really need to go back watch the VODs of their casting and fix it based on that if they wanna improve. I don't think its really impossible to improve that much in a short time just off feedback they really gotta hear their own casting to see just how awful sometimes it can be. It isn't always bad but when its bad its bad lol ah well hopefully they improve.
Now, would that be due to the North America or the Zerg?
I think that push from Hydra didn't do as much dmg as it was suppose to do - one gateway kill . Waaaay too much lings and not enough roaches and no hydra's dps .
And the counter-attack from free was the normal response and unstoppable .
On January 05 2013 13:15 opterown wrote: i wonder how much prep actually goes into map-specific practice considering there are so many scenarios possible with all-kill format, with two matches per week too
Knowing the alleged KeSPA training, probably a disgusting amount of time.
Anyone taking bets that someone snipes Free? No one?
They have players train specifically for certain players.
On January 05 2013 13:17 Serpico wrote: how the hell are soulkey and light supposed to play if he keeps winning ;___;
That's what I thought about the ace players, usually they are held back in case things get dicy. And if they come out early, they might get sniped. Oh well. I guess we'll see how this will develop.
On January 05 2013 13:17 Serpico wrote: how the hell are soulkey and light supposed to play if he keeps winning ;___;
i have WJS as team and 3 WJS players too, so i don't really mind since i'd get the team points for my team as well as each player haha
Not a bad decision at all. I was even considering picking 3 from WJS too.
i have light, soulkey and fokins as my 1-point throwaway, hoping he'll get me some team points since i don't expect him to play ever lol. was tossing up with shy or soulkey for a loong time.
Bbyong is the biggest question mark on my FPL team... He started last round on my anti, ruining the round for me and stopped playing well after I traded him away. Time for him to redeem himself, I guess ^^
On January 05 2013 13:26 DyEnasTy wrote: I hope all you who dropped Bbyong will eat your own fists in a few minutes. I believe he is well worth the 3 points.
Worth Revival though? I made the same decision as several posters previous, and think he's a far inferior player (I didn't realize Revival was only 3).
On January 05 2013 13:26 DyEnasTy wrote: I hope all you who dropped Bbyong will eat your own fists in a few minutes. I believe he is well worth the 3 points.
Mehh dropping him down let me grab SKT as my team so even if he wins...
Though I agree he is worth more then three points, I just wanted SKT as my main team
Alright, I know everybody says this in every ProLeague LR thread, but I"m turning this off because of the casters.
Not because of their lack of charisma, personality or play-by-play ability (all of which are basically nil), but because they seem to lack even the most basic knowledge of game mechanics, such as forcefields. During the replay of the last game, he just said that he was using FFs to keep out as many units as possible, which is clearly not what you do with FFs. You use them to segment out the enemy Zerg forces and kill small chunks of them at a time, rather than facing the full brunt of the swarm. That is the fucking basics.
Adios, sorry if this rant brought anybody else down or anything.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I was torn because I thought Free was obviously better than his cost but didn't know if he was gonna get play time. WJS had both Free and Light begging for more playtime, didn't know who would be the ones to get their wish.
I think Revival might/will play better next weekend. I just try not to jump on the common bandwagon too often. This weekend though he might not be in his usual form.
On January 05 2013 13:28 blacksheepwall wrote: Alright, I know everybody says this in every ProLeague LR thread, but I"m turning this off because of the casters.
Not because of their lack of charisma, personality or play-by-play ability (all of which are basically nil), but because they seem to lack even the most basic knowledge of game mechanics, such as forcefields. During the replay of the last game, he just said that he was using FFs to keep out as many units as possible, which is clearly not what you do with FFs. You use them to segment out the enemy Zerg forces and kill small chunks of them at a time, rather than facing the full brunt of the swarm. That is the fucking basics.
Adios, sorry if this rant brought anybody else down or anything.
If your interested at all why not watch korean stream?
On January 05 2013 13:07 ExceeD_DreaM wrote: Another good protoss player from CJ Entus, Hydra. LOL. These casters constantly making these annoying mistakes..
YAY Hydra my FPL!!
The mistakes are just absolutely brutal to listen to sometimes, not always but it is in crucial fights that determine the games outcome. I was only a GM zerg in north america (which in korean terms isnt very good) but man its just hurts to listen to sometimes simplistic mistakes that make it sound so much worse. I dunno if its nerves or w.e on their part but I just cant find it acceptable that its still like this in round 2 of proleague when they've been casting for a good bit. I feel like they really need to go back watch the VODs of their casting and fix it based on that if they wanna improve. I don't think its really impossible to improve that much in a short time just off feedback they really gotta hear their own casting to see just how awful sometimes it can be. It isn't always bad but when its bad its bad lol ah well hopefully they improve.
Now, would that be due to the North America or the Zerg?
SNM is going to be annoying no matter what he does, I just hate his voice >_<. That's the reason I don't try casting, I feel like I have a weird voice that people wouldn't want to listen to, and that really is a requirement. Sometimes I also wonder, does he speak English as a second language? Some of the errors he makes in his speech just remind me of my foreign friends.
Definitely agree that an important way to improve as a caster is to go back over your own work... Just like with players watching their own replays, besides being good at the game itself casters should try doing the same game three or four times, privately, to figure out the best ways to say things and to catch themselves on any quirky sayings they might have.
On January 05 2013 13:28 blacksheepwall wrote: Alright, I know everybody says this in every ProLeague LR thread, but I"m turning this off because of the casters.
Not because of their lack of charisma, personality or play-by-play ability (all of which are basically nil), but because they seem to lack even the most basic knowledge of game mechanics, such as forcefields. During the replay of the last game, he just said that he was using FFs to keep out as many units as possible, which is clearly not what you do with FFs. You use them to segment out the enemy Zerg forces and kill small chunks of them at a time, rather than facing the full brunt of the swarm. That is the fucking basics.
Adios, sorry if this rant brought anybody else down or anything.
If your interested at all why not watch korean stream?
On January 05 2013 13:28 blacksheepwall wrote: Alright, I know everybody says this in every ProLeague LR thread, but I"m turning this off because of the casters.
Not because of their lack of charisma, personality or play-by-play ability (all of which are basically nil), but because they seem to lack even the most basic knowledge of game mechanics, such as forcefields. During the replay of the last game, he just said that he was using FFs to keep out as many units as possible, which is clearly not what you do with FFs. You use them to segment out the enemy Zerg forces and kill small chunks of them at a time, rather than facing the full brunt of the swarm. That is the fucking basics.
Adios, sorry if this rant brought anybody else down or anything.
If your interested at all why not watch korean stream?
On January 05 2013 13:28 blacksheepwall wrote: Alright, I know everybody says this in every ProLeague LR thread, but I"m turning this off because of the casters.
Not because of their lack of charisma, personality or play-by-play ability (all of which are basically nil), but because they seem to lack even the most basic knowledge of game mechanics, such as forcefields. During the replay of the last game, he just said that he was using FFs to keep out as many units as possible, which is clearly not what you do with FFs. You use them to segment out the enemy Zerg forces and kill small chunks of them at a time, rather than facing the full brunt of the swarm. That is the fucking basics.
Adios, sorry if this rant brought anybody else down or anything.
If your interested at all why not watch korean stream?
I thought we couldn't watch the korean stream?
You most certainly can. Check the OP it even has a link for those not using the other methods.
On January 05 2013 13:07 ExceeD_DreaM wrote: Another good protoss player from CJ Entus, Hydra. LOL. These casters constantly making these annoying mistakes..
YAY Hydra my FPL!!
The mistakes are just absolutely brutal to listen to sometimes, not always but it is in crucial fights that determine the games outcome. I was only a GM zerg in north america (which in korean terms isnt very good) but man its just hurts to listen to sometimes simplistic mistakes that make it sound so much worse. I dunno if its nerves or w.e on their part but I just cant find it acceptable that its still like this in round 2 of proleague when they've been casting for a good bit. I feel like they really need to go back watch the VODs of their casting and fix it based on that if they wanna improve. I don't think its really impossible to improve that much in a short time just off feedback they really gotta hear their own casting to see just how awful sometimes it can be. It isn't always bad but when its bad its bad lol ah well hopefully they improve.
Now, would that be due to the North America or the Zerg?
harharhar well i meant like more so that like im not at a high korean level to predict their strategies unique ones etc.... (not that really any commentator plays at a high korean GM level) but that with my knowledge its just extremely blatant very basic mistakes the casters make in very crucial situations/fights.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 4: 2-1 free vs Bbyong Map: Neo Bifrost
0:00 free spawns in the bottom left Bbyong spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for free
2:00 gas for free CC first for Bbyong in the pocket natural rax for Bbyong probe scout of free scouts cc first cybernetics core for free
3:00 probes are pulled out of gas by free when he sees cc first so he can get a nexus 2nd rax for Bbyong to complete his front wall off Nexus for free
4:00 stalker for free 2nd gas for free first few marines of Bbyong move out 3rd rax for Bbyong
5:00 2nd stalker for free double gas for Bbyong double forge for free sentry for free 3rd gas for free
6:00 stalker spots the 6 marines of Bbyong moving across the map sentry misses the forcefield to block the main choke 1-1 started for free stalker trying to scout marines stim research started for Bbyong bunker finishes for Bbyong in his main
7:00 free manages to clean up the marines and saves his stalker factory started for Bbyong Marauder production started for Bbyong 3rd CC started for Bbyong robo and 2 more gates started for free Twilight council started for free
8:00 more marines moving across the map for Bbyong double ebay for Bbyong stalkers are kiting marines across the map forcefield on the main choke keeps the marines out 3 more gates for free Starport started for Bbyong 2-2 started for free
9:00 1-1 started for Bbyong observer coming out for free 4 more rax for Bbyong Blink research started for free double medivac production started for Bbyong
10:00 Concussive shells started for Bbyong combat shield started for Bbyomg armory started for Bbyong 3rd base started for free 3rd CC floated out for Bbyong Bbyong moving out with his first 2 medivacs
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
Which is bad everytime when WJS lose a match, straight -4 no matter what.
no you don't get -1 when team loses
Yeah, brainfart, lol.
Heh, and that's only if a player on your anti team wins. That's where the minus one comes from. O:
Yeah, I feel for those who loaded their anti team with three players from the same team.
I guess having 4 players of the same team on your main team will not net you good points if that team loses while other teams win. I like spreading it out.
On January 05 2013 13:35 nkr wrote: what are the chances of light coming out for woongjin? :s
not sure; they have a lot of good players clamouring for the two non-guaranteed spots. shy and soulkey probably will play 90% of the games or something, and light, hon_sin, zero, free, flying are probably competing for the last two spots.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I was torn because I thought Free was obviously better than his cost but didn't know if he was gonna get play time. WJS had both Free and Light begging for more playtime, didn't know who would be the ones to get their wish.
Woongjin is a ridiculously deep team, I think that's why free cost so little - he's going to be one of those players who comes out to snipe someone specific... and there are better ways to use your player slots. If you're one of the people that picked 2-3 7/8/9 point plahyers though and just didn't have the points to go around, he was definitely a good choice.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
Which is bad everytime when WJS lose a match, straight -4 no matter what.
no you don't get -1 when team loses
Yeah, brainfart, lol.
Heh, and that's only if a player on your anti team wins. That's where the minus one comes from. O:
Yeah, I feel for those who loaded their anti team with three players from the same team.
I guess having 4 players of the same team on your main team will not net you good points if that team loses while other teams win. I like spreading it out.
Yeah man, you need some balance. Then you have guys who are relying on 1-2 players to do all the leg work. The teams I go with are fairly balanced most of the time in FPL.
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 4: 2-1 free vs Bbyong Map: Neo Bifrost
0:00 free spawns in the bottom left Bbyong spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for free
2:00 gas for free CC first for Bbyong in the pocket natural rax for Bbyong probe scout of free scouts cc first cybernetics core for free
3:00 probes are pulled out of gas by free when he sees cc first so he can get a nexus 2nd rax for Bbyong to complete his front wall off Nexus for free
4:00 stalker for free 2nd gas for free first few marines of Bbyong move out 3rd rax for Bbyong
5:00 2nd stalker for free double gas for Bbyong double forge for free sentry for free 3rd gas for free
6:00 stalker spots the 6 marines of Bbyong moving across the map sentry misses the forcefield to block the main choke 1-1 started for free stalker trying to scout marines stim research started for Bbyong bunker finishes for Bbyong in his main
7:00 free manages to clean up the marines and saves his stalker factory started for Bbyong Marauder production started for Bbyong 3rd CC started for Bbyong robo and 2 more gates started for free Twilight council started for free
8:00 more marines moving across the map for Bbyong double ebay for Bbyong stalkers are kiting marines across the map forcefield on the main choke keeps the marines out 3 more gates for free Starport started for Bbyong 2-2 started for free
9:00 1-1 started for Bbyong observer coming out for free 4 more rax for Bbyong Blink research started for free double medivac production started for Bbyong
10:00 Concussive shells started for Bbyong combat shield started for Bbyomg armory started for Bbyong 3rd base started for free 3rd CC floated out for Bbyong Bbyong moving out with his first 2 medivacs
11:00 free scouts the army moving out and Bbyong moves back Robotics bay started for free 2-2 started for Bbyong
12:00 3-3 started for free Colossus proudction started for free
13:00 Extended thermal lance research started for free Bbyong is massing up in the center of the map with bioball charge research started for free 2 more gates for free zealot runby at the 3rd of Bbyong
14:00 +1 ship weapons started for Bbyong viking production started for Bbyong small marine marauder force on the high ground harassing free's 3rd Bbyong flanks with his main army as free pulls back free's army is crushed because it's split
15:00 manner mule from bbyong templar archives on the way free is 60 supply down free ggs! Bbyong ties it up 2-2!
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
On January 05 2013 13:39 Proseat wrote: And there goes Free. It was fun while it lasted, right BLIND?
meh, points are points, if free can garuntee a win it doesn't matter I'll always make 2 points out of him, same for hydra.
Yeah, I wonder if we're always just seeing 2 points for each player most of the time. Well, except for the final player winning it I guess. Definitely favors balanced FPL teams.
On January 05 2013 13:39 LighT. wrote: Send out Zero!!! DO NOT SEND OUT FATTY
really was expecting to see hOn_sin, wonder why they aren't playing him here? It's not like they need to save him to play CJ's "other" terrans (sKyHigh), since It's pretty much a sure thing that effOrt comes out next anyway...
On January 05 2013 13:42 nooboon wrote: WJS line up. So stacked o.o Might actually lead to a lot of sniping meaning less multi game winners and more 4-3 scores.
Yup, they certainly have a good core of players to keep it close.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
The prince of queens will prove you wrong
Yeah, I originally had ZerO in my team, until I took a look at how deep Woongjin is and realized he probably won't get that many games. Switched to soO right away, since he's pretty likely to play as the third-best player on his team. I'm not sure why you would pick ZerO over soO, given that Woongjin also has Soulkey.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
The prince of queens will prove you wrong
Yeah, I originally had ZerO in my team, until I took a look at how deep Woongin is and realized he probably won't get that many games. Switched to soO right away, since he's pretty likely to play as the third-best player on his team.
My thought was that soO might play more but that he would lose those matches.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
The prince of queens will prove you wrong
Yeah, I originally had ZerO in my team, until I took a look at how deep Woongin is and realized he probably won't get that many games. Switched to soO right away, since he's pretty likely to play as the third-best player on his team.
My thought was that soO might play more but that he would lose those matches.
why not settle for both? have ZerO and soO on my team
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
The prince of queens will prove you wrong
Yeah, I originally had ZerO in my team, until I took a look at how deep Woongjin is and realized he probably won't get that many games. Switched to soO right away, since he's pretty likely to play as the third-best player on his team. I'm not sure why you would pick ZerO over soO, given that Woongjin also has Soulkey.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
The prince of queens will prove you wrong
Yeah, I originally had ZerO in my team, until I took a look at how deep Woongin is and realized he probably won't get that many games. Switched to soO right away, since he's pretty likely to play as the third-best player on his team.
My thought was that soO might play more but that he would lose those matches.
You sure? He had a pretty-ok last round, losing to Soulkey and JYP, and JYP surprised everyone. He also did some pretty cool things in november at MLG dallas, and appears to be improving pretty quickly as time goes on.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
The prince of queens will prove you wrong
Yeah, I originally had ZerO in my team, until I took a look at how deep Woongin is and realized he probably won't get that many games. Switched to soO right away, since he's pretty likely to play as the third-best player on his team.
My thought was that soO might play more but that he would lose those matches.
You sure? He had a pretty-ok last round, losing to Soulkey and JYP, and JYP surprised everyone. He also did some pretty cool things in november at MLG dallas, and appears to be improving pretty quickly as time goes on.
JYP didn't surprise me at all I expected him to go 5-3 and he did lol.
On January 05 2013 13:48 NPF wrote: Quick question :Tthis season for Proleague ends around March I'm guessing just around when HOTS comes out?
Probably ends in the summer. Seems that they will switch to HOTS after it comes out.
Assuming that it goes the whole 6 rounds and playoffs, with each round being a month long. Yeah it will probably overlap with HOTS making this one hectic Proleague. As soon as players begin to hit their stride with WOL, BAM new game.
Korean commentators might not know the heavy metal symbol or understand why he did it then (I guess he just thought it would be cool). Next thing we know, it's the guy, not the girl hiding!
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 5: 2-2 ZerO vs Bbyong Map: Neo Caldeum
0:00 ZerO spawns in the bottom left Bbyong spawns in the top right
1:40 proxy rax from Bbyong in the middle of the map drone scout runs straight into the building proxy rax
2:00 pool for ZerO 2 drones are pulled to harass the building scv both scvs near the rax are killed the proxy rax is forced to cancel CC at the top of the ramp to wall off for Bbyong
3:00 rax for Bbyong to complete his wall off Hatch for ZerO 2nd rax for Bbyong
4:00 lings start killing the neutral assimilator at Bbyong's natural ZerO just droning up after scouting the CC
5:00 double gas for Bbyong Bbyong floats down his natural OC marines come down the ramp and pick off 2 lings for free
On January 05 2013 13:48 NPF wrote: Quick question :Tthis season for Proleague ends around March I'm guessing just around when HOTS comes out?
Probably ends in the summer. Seems that they will switch to HOTS after it comes out.
Assuming that it goes the whole 6 rounds and playoffs, with each round being a month long. Yeah it will probably overlap with HOTS making this one hectic Proleague. As soon as players begin to hit their stride with WOL, BAM new game.
Proleague is taking a Hiatus around the release time of HotS. There should be a month long break for the players to adjust.
actually kind of a wash in scouting the proxy... ZerO had to pull a bunch of drones and go pool first, but the barracks got cancelled. Huge map, and now Bbyong has an expo up... sure, he's behind but it definitely could have been worse.
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 5: 2-2 ZerO vs Bbyong Map: Neo Caldeum
0:00 ZerO spawns in the bottom left Bbyong spawns in the top right
1:40 proxy rax from Bbyong in the middle of the map drone scout runs straight into the building proxy rax
2:00 pool for ZerO 2 drones are pulled to harass the building scv both scvs near the rax are killed the proxy rax is forced to cancel CC at the top of the ramp to wall off for Bbyong
3:00 rax for Bbyong to complete his wall off Hatch for ZerO 2nd rax for Bbyong
4:00 lings start killing the neutral assimilator at Bbyong's natural ZerO just droning up after scouting the CC
5:00 double gas for Bbyong Bbyong floats down his natural OC marines come down the ramp and pick off 2 lings for free
6:00 3rd base started for ZerO marines moving across the map bunker started for Bbyong in his natural factory started for Bbyong double gas for ZerO marines pick off an overlord for free 2 queens come over to the 3rd of ZerO to defend
7:00 marines run away from the 2 queens 3rd gas for ZerO tech lab and reactor for Bbyong Stim research started for Bbyong 3rd CC started for Bbyong lings run in and kill off a few of Bbyong's reinforcements as they rally towards the main group
8:00 baneling nest started for ZerO Lair started for ZerO reactored hellion production started for Bbyong evo chamber for Bbyong
9:00 double ebay for Bbyong +1 melee started for ZerO ling speed started for ZerO starport started for Bbyong baneling speed started for ZerO 1-1 started for Bbyong 2 more gas for Bbyong 4 hellions move towards the 3rd base of ZerO lings and queens are able to force the hellions away from the drones
10:00 the hellions are able to kill some lings but they are chased away with only 1 surviving double medivac production started for Bbyong 3 more rax for Bbyong 40 lings on the way for ZerO armory started for Bbyong
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 5: 2-2 ZerO vs Bbyong Map: Neo Caldeum
0:00 ZerO spawns in the bottom left Bbyong spawns in the top right
1:40 proxy rax from Bbyong in the middle of the map drone scout runs straight into the building proxy rax
2:00 pool for ZerO 2 drones are pulled to harass the building scv both scvs near the rax are killed the proxy rax is forced to cancel CC at the top of the ramp to wall off for Bbyong
3:00 rax for Bbyong to complete his wall off Hatch for ZerO 2nd rax for Bbyong
4:00 lings start killing the neutral assimilator at Bbyong's natural ZerO just droning up after scouting the CC
5:00 double gas for Bbyong Bbyong floats down his natural OC marines come down the ramp and pick off 2 lings for free
6:00 3rd base started for ZerO marines moving across the map bunker started for Bbyong in his natural factory started for Bbyong double gas for ZerO marines pick off an overlord for free 2 queens come over to the 3rd of ZerO to defend
7:00 marines run away from the 2 queens 3rd gas for ZerO tech lab and reactor for Bbyong Stim research started for Bbyong 3rd CC started for Bbyong lings run in and kill off a few of Bbyong's reinforcements as they rally towards the main group
8:00 baneling nest started for ZerO Lair started for ZerO reactored hellion production started for Bbyong evo chamber for Bbyong
9:00 double ebay for Bbyong +1 melee started for ZerO ling speed started for ZerO starport started for Bbyong baneling speed started for ZerO 1-1 started for Bbyong 2 more gas for Bbyong 4 hellions move towards the 3rd base of ZerO lings and queens are able to force the hellions away from the drones
10:00 the hellions are able to kill some lings but they are chased away with only 1 surviving double medivac production started for Bbyong 3 more rax for Bbyong 40 lings on the way for ZerO armory started for Bbyong
11:00 29 banelings started for ZerO siege tank and siege mode research started for Bbyong Bbyong starting to wall off his natural banelings bust through the wall banelings are chasing after the marines Bbyong is splitting against the banelings as best as he can
12:00 all of the scvs in the natural are being killed Bbyong ggs! ZerO wins and gives Woongjin Stars the 3-2 lead!
Ehh, mostly just lings for those hellions. Not the greatest trade. Bbyong's macro is really really good though. Maybe he can take this in late game if he pulls off some amazing engagements somehow.
BAH, I didn't see the splitting or anything when the banelings were attacking, because I often get hit with 이 한 타이밍 stream lag right in the midst of action. >_<
On January 05 2013 14:03 opterown wrote: i wonder if woogjin would put flying against effort for ace, considering his weak ZvP and entombed valley, and his excellent ZvZ
Throw the ultimate curve ball and contract Mvp to come back for 1 game
On January 05 2013 14:03 opterown wrote: i wonder if woogjin would put flying against effort for ace, considering his weak ZvP and entombed valley, and his excellent ZvZ
Throw the ultimate curve ball and contract Mvp to come back for 1 game
EffOrt my favorite player... but he is too easy to snipe with Protoss so I didn't pick him up for Winners. But, I still have CJ so I need him to smash face, regardless...
On January 05 2013 14:03 opterown wrote: i wonder if woogjin would put flying against effort for ace, considering his weak ZvP and entombed valley, and his excellent ZvZ
Throw the ultimate curve ball and contract Mvp to come back for 1 game
One player starts chanting Rudy and then the entire team starts chanting Rudy. The entire studio becomes filled with the cry for Rudy to play.
On January 05 2013 14:03 opterown wrote: i wonder if woogjin would put flying against effort for ace, considering his weak ZvP and entombed valley, and his excellent ZvZ
Throw the ultimate curve ball and contract Mvp to come back for 1 game
One player starts chanting Rudy and then the entire team starts chanting Rudy. The entire studio becomes filled with the cry for Rudy to play.
On January 05 2013 14:03 opterown wrote: i wonder if woogjin would put flying against effort for ace, considering his weak ZvP and entombed valley, and his excellent ZvZ
Throw the ultimate curve ball and contract Mvp to come back for 1 game
One player starts chanting Rudy and then the entire team starts chanting Rudy. The entire studio becomes filled with the cry for Rudy to play.
On January 05 2013 14:09 Shellshock1122 wrote: Games of the week Rank 2: White people get a win for the first time in 6.5 years! Rank 1: KHAN WINS A MATCH!
Come on jangbi vs hero was a good game give them credit!
On January 05 2013 14:09 Shellshock1122 wrote: Games of the week Rank 2: White people get a win for the first time in 6.5 years! Rank 1: KHAN WINS A MATCH!
Come on jangbi vs hero was a good game give them credit!
I know I'm jk :D hopefully they have a better round 2
Evolution chamber coming up for Effort. "It looks like Effort will be the first to attack." It's as if they think an evolution chamber and upgrades are free and instant.
On January 05 2013 14:09 Shellshock1122 wrote: Games of the week Rank 2: White people get a win for the first time in 6.5 years! Rank 1: KHAN WINS A MATCH!
Come on jangbi vs hero was a good game give them credit!
I know I'm jk :D hopefully they have a better round 2
As long as jangbi dosnt win ill be fine for FPL >.>
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 6: 3-2 ZerO vs EffOrt Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 ZerO spawns in the top right EffOrt spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Pool first for ZerO on 15 Hatch first for EffOrt gas for EffOrt Hatch for ZerO Pool for EffOrt
3:00 gas for ZerO drones queens
4:00 ling speed started for EffOrt baneling nest for EffOrt ling speed started for ZerO
5:00 baneling nest for ZerO evo chamber for EffOrt spine started for ZerO in his natural +1 carapace started for EffOrt
6:00 2 lings get into the main of ZerO and get a full scout 1 drone is actually picked off by the 2 lings before they are cleaned up 2nd gas and Lair started for ZerO evo chamber started for ZerO 2 more gas for EffOrt spine started for EffOrt in his natural defensive bane from ZerO Roach warren started for ZerO
7:00 2 more gas for ZerO Lair started for EffOrt Roach warren started for EffOrt 2 more spines started for ZerO 2 lings of ZerO get into the main of EffOrt and scout the Lair and roach warren +1 range attack started for ZerO macro hatch started for EffOrt after the scouting lings leave
8:00 Roach speed started for ZerO 22 lings on the way for EffOrt infestation pit started for ZerO +1 range attack started for EffOrt roach speed started for EffOrt lings and banes of EffOrt begin attacking intot he natural of ZerO natural spinecrawler is killed
9:00 infestation pit started for EffOrt Roaches spawn in time to save a queen of ZerO Roaches clean up the lings of EffOrt ZerO is ahead by 5 drones pathogen glands started for ZerO
10:00 pathogen glands started for EffOrt a few more lings run in and pick off ZerO's queen +2 range attack started for ZerO 2nd evo for ZerO 3rd base for ZerO 3rd base for EffOrt Roach ling attack heading out for EffOrt towards Zero's 3rd
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 6: 3-2 ZerO vs EffOrt Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 ZerO spawns in the top right EffOrt spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Pool first for ZerO on 15 Hatch first for EffOrt gas for EffOrt Hatch for ZerO Pool for EffOrt
3:00 gas for ZerO drones queens
4:00 ling speed started for EffOrt baneling nest for EffOrt ling speed started for ZerO
5:00 baneling nest for ZerO evo chamber for EffOrt spine started for ZerO in his natural +1 carapace started for EffOrt
6:00 2 lings get into the main of ZerO and get a full scout 1 drone is actually picked off by the 2 lings before they are cleaned up 2nd gas and Lair started for ZerO evo chamber started for ZerO 2 more gas for EffOrt spine started for EffOrt in his natural defensive bane from ZerO Roach warren started for ZerO
7:00 2 more gas for ZerO Lair started for EffOrt Roach warren started for EffOrt 2 more spines started for ZerO 2 lings of ZerO get into the main of EffOrt and scout the Lair and roach warren +1 range attack started for ZerO macro hatch started for EffOrt after the scouting lings leave
8:00 Roach speed started for ZerO 22 lings on the way for EffOrt infestation pit started for ZerO +1 range attack started for EffOrt roach speed started for EffOrt lings and banes of EffOrt begin attacking intot he natural of ZerO natural spinecrawler is killed
9:00 infestation pit started for EffOrt Roaches spawn in time to save a queen of ZerO Roaches clean up the lings of EffOrt ZerO is ahead by 5 drones pathogen glands started for ZerO
10:00 pathogen glands started for EffOrt a few more lings run in and pick off ZerO's queen +2 range attack started for ZerO 2nd evo for ZerO 3rd base for ZerO 3rd base for EffOrt Roach ling attack heading out for EffOrt towards Zero's 3rd
11:00 Roaches attack at the 3rd of ZerO lings of EffOrt run into the main of ZerO ZerO uses good roach and queen positioning to defend vs the lings lings in ZerO's main are cleaned up +1 carapace started for ZerO ZerO saved his 3rd base as well
12:00 infestors are now out for EffOrt and ZerO Burrow research started for ZerO +2 range attack started for EffOrt ZerO is pushing out to attack
13:00 ZerO is 30 supply ahead Roach runby from EffOrt towards ZerO's 3rd ZerO retreats with his main army
14:00 EffOrt is now looking to put on some pressure at ZerO's 3rd Hydra den started for ZerO ZerO has 10 infestors out now vs 5
15:00 Roaches try to runby into the natural of ZerO but infestors fungal them and burrow 2nd army of EffOrt attacks intot he 3rd of ZerO ITs are thrown out but fungals blanket EffOrt's army and ZerO holds him off ZerO is 50 supply ahead Hydra range started for ZerO burrow research started for EffOrt
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 6: 3-2 ZerO vs EffOrt Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 ZerO spawns in the top right EffOrt spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Pool first for ZerO on 15 Hatch first for EffOrt gas for EffOrt Hatch for ZerO Pool for EffOrt
3:00 gas for ZerO drones queens
4:00 ling speed started for EffOrt baneling nest for EffOrt ling speed started for ZerO
5:00 baneling nest for ZerO evo chamber for EffOrt spine started for ZerO in his natural +1 carapace started for EffOrt
6:00 2 lings get into the main of ZerO and get a full scout 1 drone is actually picked off by the 2 lings before they are cleaned up 2nd gas and Lair started for ZerO evo chamber started for ZerO 2 more gas for EffOrt spine started for EffOrt in his natural defensive bane from ZerO Roach warren started for ZerO
7:00 2 more gas for ZerO Lair started for EffOrt Roach warren started for EffOrt 2 more spines started for ZerO 2 lings of ZerO get into the main of EffOrt and scout the Lair and roach warren +1 range attack started for ZerO macro hatch started for EffOrt after the scouting lings leave
8:00 Roach speed started for ZerO 22 lings on the way for EffOrt infestation pit started for ZerO +1 range attack started for EffOrt roach speed started for EffOrt lings and banes of EffOrt begin attacking intot he natural of ZerO natural spinecrawler is killed
9:00 infestation pit started for EffOrt Roaches spawn in time to save a queen of ZerO Roaches clean up the lings of EffOrt ZerO is ahead by 5 drones pathogen glands started for ZerO
10:00 pathogen glands started for EffOrt a few more lings run in and pick off ZerO's queen +2 range attack started for ZerO 2nd evo for ZerO 3rd base for ZerO 3rd base for EffOrt Roach ling attack heading out for EffOrt towards Zero's 3rd
11:00 Roaches attack at the 3rd of ZerO lings of EffOrt run into the main of ZerO ZerO uses good roach and queen positioning to defend vs the lings lings in ZerO's main are cleaned up +1 carapace started for ZerO ZerO saved his 3rd base as well
12:00 infestors are now out for EffOrt and ZerO Burrow research started for ZerO +2 range attack started for EffOrt ZerO is pushing out to attack
13:00 ZerO is 30 supply ahead Roach runby from EffOrt towards ZerO's 3rd ZerO retreats with his main army
14:00 EffOrt is now looking to put on some pressure at ZerO's 3rd Hydra den started for ZerO ZerO has 10 infestors out now vs 5
15:00 Roaches try to runby into the natural of ZerO but infestors fungal them and burrow 2nd army of EffOrt attacks intot he 3rd of ZerO ITs are thrown out but fungals blanket EffOrt's army and ZerO holds him off ZerO is 50 supply ahead Hydra range started for ZerO burrow research started for EffOrt
16:00 ZerO is counterattacking EffOrt sets up a defense at his 3rd base ZerO is maxed +2 carapace started for ZerO
17:00 Hydra den started for EffORt ZerO tries a roach runby to the natural of EffOrt but EffOrt has units in place to make it back off +2 carapace started for EffOrt Hydra production started for ZerO 4th base started for ZerO
18:00 ZerO has a huge bank (4000-1000) vs (1900-500) 4th base started for EffOrt EffOrt tries to pressure the 4th of ZerO but there are too many units nearby
19:00 Hive started for EffOrt EffOrt attacks into the 4th of ZerO IT and fungals everywhere infestors just pooping 2nd group of Roaches run around and flank for EffOrt ZerO has more IT and EffOrt's supply starts to drop
20:00 ZerO holds off the attack easily EffOrt had to cancel his 4th base 4th base restarted for EffOrt Hive started for ZerO spines started for ZerO +3 range attack started for EffOrt
On January 05 2013 14:29 Trizz wrote: These casters are really bad, effOrt cancelled his 4th hatch before he needed the money? He had 1400 mins after remaxing..
I think they said he cancelled it because he anticipated an counter-attack.
[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs CJ Entus R2 Game 6: 3-2 ZerO vs EffOrt Map: Cloud Kingdom
0:00 ZerO spawns in the top right EffOrt spawns in the bottom left
2:00 Pool first for ZerO on 15 Hatch first for EffOrt gas for EffOrt Hatch for ZerO Pool for EffOrt
3:00 gas for ZerO drones queens
4:00 ling speed started for EffOrt baneling nest for EffOrt ling speed started for ZerO
5:00 baneling nest for ZerO evo chamber for EffOrt spine started for ZerO in his natural +1 carapace started for EffOrt
6:00 2 lings get into the main of ZerO and get a full scout 1 drone is actually picked off by the 2 lings before they are cleaned up 2nd gas and Lair started for ZerO evo chamber started for ZerO 2 more gas for EffOrt spine started for EffOrt in his natural defensive bane from ZerO Roach warren started for ZerO
7:00 2 more gas for ZerO Lair started for EffOrt Roach warren started for EffOrt 2 more spines started for ZerO 2 lings of ZerO get into the main of EffOrt and scout the Lair and roach warren +1 range attack started for ZerO macro hatch started for EffOrt after the scouting lings leave
8:00 Roach speed started for ZerO 22 lings on the way for EffOrt infestation pit started for ZerO +1 range attack started for EffOrt roach speed started for EffOrt lings and banes of EffOrt begin attacking intot he natural of ZerO natural spinecrawler is killed
9:00 infestation pit started for EffOrt Roaches spawn in time to save a queen of ZerO Roaches clean up the lings of EffOrt ZerO is ahead by 5 drones pathogen glands started for ZerO
10:00 pathogen glands started for EffOrt a few more lings run in and pick off ZerO's queen +2 range attack started for ZerO 2nd evo for ZerO 3rd base for ZerO 3rd base for EffOrt Roach ling attack heading out for EffOrt towards Zero's 3rd
11:00 Roaches attack at the 3rd of ZerO lings of EffOrt run into the main of ZerO ZerO uses good roach and queen positioning to defend vs the lings lings in ZerO's main are cleaned up +1 carapace started for ZerO ZerO saved his 3rd base as well
12:00 infestors are now out for EffOrt and ZerO Burrow research started for ZerO +2 range attack started for EffOrt ZerO is pushing out to attack
13:00 ZerO is 30 supply ahead Roach runby from EffOrt towards ZerO's 3rd ZerO retreats with his main army
14:00 EffOrt is now looking to put on some pressure at ZerO's 3rd Hydra den started for ZerO ZerO has 10 infestors out now vs 5
15:00 Roaches try to runby into the natural of ZerO but infestors fungal them and burrow 2nd army of EffOrt attacks intot he 3rd of ZerO ITs are thrown out but fungals blanket EffOrt's army and ZerO holds him off ZerO is 50 supply ahead Hydra range started for ZerO burrow research started for EffOrt
16:00 ZerO is counterattacking EffOrt sets up a defense at his 3rd base ZerO is maxed +2 carapace started for ZerO
17:00 Hydra den started for EffORt ZerO tries a roach runby to the natural of EffOrt but EffOrt has units in place to make it back off +2 carapace started for EffOrt Hydra production started for ZerO 4th base started for ZerO
18:00 ZerO has a huge bank (4000-1000) vs (1900-500) 4th base started for EffOrt EffOrt tries to pressure the 4th of ZerO but there are too many units nearby
19:00 Hive started for EffOrt EffOrt attacks into the 4th of ZerO IT and fungals everywhere infestors just pooping 2nd group of Roaches run around and flank for EffOrt ZerO has more IT and EffOrt's supply starts to drop
20:00 ZerO holds off the attack easily EffOrt had to cancel his 4th base 4th base restarted for EffOrt Hive started for ZerO spines started for ZerO +3 range attack started for EffOrt
21:00 10 spines on the way for ZerO at his 4th EffOrt attacking into the 4th of ZerO spines are finishing up EffOrt tries to circle from behind with roaches again IT of ZerO are killing off EffOrt's army
22:00 ZerO is 40 supply ahead ZerO is counterattacking now EffOrt has no infestors left EffOrt's army is almost pure hydra 13 infestors out for ZerO and 40 roaches ZerO attacking at the 4th of Effort
23:00 3-3 started for ZerO spire started for ZerO IT thrown out at the 4th EffOrt's army is crushed EffOrt ggs! ZerO wins and Woongjin Stars takes the match 4-2!
On January 05 2013 14:29 Trizz wrote: These casters are really bad, effOrt cancelled his 4th hatch before he needed the money? He had 1400 mins after remaxing..
yeah, then he said that effort canceled his hive... while effort was making +3. really poor casting :/
Effort didn't quite have his +3 attack :\.... And yeah the roach flanks are always just too late. He really needed to clear out those overlords from around there and engage all at once. Maybe even bring an Overseer with those Roaches, as he always misses the opportunity to kill all those Infestors at the back.
On January 05 2013 15:02 Kipsate wrote: Leta is on Entus Light didn't play.
That is +1 light +0 Entus
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Wait, so does that mean Lineup Apperance isnt the "lineup" but if the player plays or not? I've always thought the lineup was if they're sitting on the bench or not.
SO it would be +1 for all players in the bench +1 for additional win
On January 05 2013 15:02 Kipsate wrote: Leta is on Entus Light didn't play.
That is +1 light +0 Entus
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Wait, so does that mean Lineup Apperance isnt the "lineup" but if the player plays or not? I've always thought the lineup was if they're sitting on the bench or not.
SO it would be +1 for all players in the bench +1 for additional win
No, the bench has no FPL-scoring consequence whatsoever. You get +1 for lineup if a player comes out to play, no matter how many maps he'll win in this format then. And every player in the FPL database for a winning team will also get +1 no matter if he is in the studio or not.
On January 05 2013 15:02 Kipsate wrote: Leta is on Entus Light didn't play.
That is +1 light +0 Entus
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Wait, so does that mean Lineup Apperance isnt the "lineup" but if the player plays or not? I've always thought the lineup was if they're sitting on the bench or not.
SO it would be +1 for all players in the bench +1 for additional win
No, the bench has no FPL-scoring consequence whatsoever. You get +1 for lineup if a player comes out to play, no matter how many maps he'll win in this format then. And every player in the FPL database for a winning team will also get +1 no matter if he is in the studio or not.
Zero +6 Light +1 Hydra +2 then.. its still not bad
Oh my god thank you so much for those VODS down there. I didnt notice it until now and got this match spoiled by extremely stupid VOD system on twitch.
T.T only 5 points for this match, I hope that Shy won't turn out to be a bad pick. I guess he will play a lot for his team so it's not that bad, I will probably have to check the vods to see if he is legitly good or not. Can't trade him anyways.
On January 05 2013 19:45 Poopi wrote: T.T only 5 points for this match, I hope that Shy won't turn out to be a bad pick. I guess he will play a lot for his team so it's not that bad, I will probably have to check the vods to see if he is legitly good or not. Can't trade him anyways.
averaging five points per match is pretty solid imo
well... out of 2 WJS guys I have on my FPL team (Light and free) only free played, and won 1, lost 1. Bbata also didn't play so that means Day 1 got me fucked in FPL :<
On January 05 2013 19:45 Poopi wrote: T.T only 5 points for this match, I hope that Shy won't turn out to be a bad pick. I guess he will play a lot for his team so it's not that bad, I will probably have to check the vods to see if he is legitly good or not. Can't trade him anyways.
averaging five points per match is pretty solid imo
Maybe but it's still worrying that right now the players bringing in the more points (Terminator +6 and ZerO +6) were "low to mid" cost players. Since it's an all-kill format if this trend continues having a lot of mid cost players will have proven more successful than the more intuitive "two or three super aces players".
However imo WJS and T8 were favored in both of this matches so they didn't need to send the big guns necessarily and it was the first match so teams will adapt.
On January 05 2013 20:07 esdf wrote: well... out of 2 WJS guys I have on my FPL team (Light and free) only free played, and won 1, lost 1. Bbata also didn't play so that means Day 1 got me fucked in FPL :<
did you really expect bbatta to get a game? lol only 4 players get a game, and he seems to be one of the least likely on KHAN
On January 05 2013 20:07 esdf wrote: well... out of 2 WJS guys I have on my FPL team (Light and free) only free played, and won 1, lost 1. Bbata also didn't play so that means Day 1 got me fucked in FPL :<
did you really expect bbatta to get a game? lol only 4 players get a game, and he seems to be one of the least likely on KHAN
well, yeah, KHAN is 1-7 as of today, and all their point men keep on failing. I was rather surprised when I saw the rookie not playing.
On January 05 2013 20:07 esdf wrote: well... out of 2 WJS guys I have on my FPL team (Light and free) only free played, and won 1, lost 1. Bbata also didn't play so that means Day 1 got me fucked in FPL :<
did you really expect bbatta to get a game? lol only 4 players get a game, and he seems to be one of the least likely on KHAN
well, yeah, KHAN is 1-7 as of today, and all their point men keep on failing. I was rather surprised when I saw the rookie not playing.
You know when even your best players lose, small is the chance that your weakest players will magically win :/.
On January 05 2013 20:07 esdf wrote: well... out of 2 WJS guys I have on my FPL team (Light and free) only free played, and won 1, lost 1. Bbata also didn't play so that means Day 1 got me fucked in FPL :<
did you really expect bbatta to get a game? lol only 4 players get a game, and he seems to be one of the least likely on KHAN
well, yeah, KHAN is 1-7 as of today, and all their point men keep on failing. I was rather surprised when I saw the rookie not playing.
You know when even your best players lose, small is the chance that your weakest players will magically win :/.
I was more hoping that they're all out of ideas on what to do and send out a Rookie. + You never know, he might be the next best thing, or a total fail.
On January 05 2013 20:07 esdf wrote: well... out of 2 WJS guys I have on my FPL team (Light and free) only free played, and won 1, lost 1. Bbata also didn't play so that means Day 1 got me fucked in FPL :<
did you really expect bbatta to get a game? lol only 4 players get a game, and he seems to be one of the least likely on KHAN
well, yeah, KHAN is 1-7 as of today, and all their point men keep on failing. I was rather surprised when I saw the rookie not playing.
You know when even your best players lose, small is the chance that your weakest players will magically win :/.
I was more hoping that they're all out of ideas on what to do and send out a Rookie. + You never know, he might be the next best thing, or a total fail.
probably the latter :p i'm sure they have inhouse tournaments and the like to judge how good their players are haha
On January 05 2013 17:18 Aerisky wrote: Wow, a lot of you guys banked pretty hard solely on Stars XD
cause they have an easy draw for week1 (look at Khan in Round1 and look at CJ in the sc2 part of the hybrid league). I also have 3 players + WJS in my team, but i think i will get rid of 2 of them after week1.
On January 05 2013 13:25 BLinD-RawR wrote: I must be the only one who has free in their FPL team, well I guess grobyc too.
I wanted to take him at first, but then decided on Revival.
same, but i also would have had 4 WJS players if i took free haha
I have four WJ stars :D sHy, Free, Zero and Light B-)
not sure that's a good choice though, since free, zero and light aren't guaranteed to play, it may be smarter to get soo or similar rather than zero since soo is guaranteed to play?
The prince of queens will prove you wrong
Yeah, I originally had ZerO in my team, until I took a look at how deep Woongjin is and realized he probably won't get that many games. Switched to soO right away, since he's pretty likely to play as the third-best player on his team. I'm not sure why you would pick ZerO over soO, given that Woongjin also has Soulkey.
Just checked back at the thread, wow, this was the worst timing for you to have ZerO roll CJ, I guess
I'm also going with 4 WJs Light, hOn-sin, ZerO, and Flying, with Fanta and sSak rounding it up, and having WJ as my team, ofc too.
If I'm counting right this match gave me not as many points though because it was only ZerO who played out of the 4.
What's the new scoring for the team's results, again? Can't remember it, but I guess 4-2 goes with like 2 points or something? That leaves me barely above 10 points for now.
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Bbyong![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/c/c1/ActionJesuz.jpg)
