• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:24
CEST 19:24
KST 02:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly4Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard"2ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!24Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)90
StarCraft 2
General
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut? Animated Gateway
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Games can Help with Majo…
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3398 users

[NASL] Season 4 Grand Finals Day 2 - Page 24

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 148 Next
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 09 2012 21:54 GMT
#461
On December 10 2012 06:53 Zorgaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:52 Ranir wrote:
I think they need to change oracle, I really liked the force field on the mineral line or what ever that spell was named, why did they remove it? They need something like that, an harassment unit but not as crazy as this one, it's too easy to kill some drones with the oracle as it is right now, the FF on mineral line felt like a spell that required more skills than as it is right now.


No that spell sucked, this is much better. Oracles aren't that strong if you are prepared. Entomb took 0% skill

idk lol they seem like banshees on crack to me
Cackle™
Ziggitz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States340 Posts
December 09 2012 21:54 GMT
#462
On December 10 2012 06:50 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:49 Enhancer_ wrote:
For the people citing the cost of the Oracle (600/600 for four of them), remember that you can get 6 Mutalisks for that same cost and get absolutely nothing done with them since they're denied by a single Queen, a couple Stalkers or a small group of Marines.

It'll get nerfed. Lots.

Not sure about comparing a Mutalisk to an Oracle like that, Mutas can do a lot of things Oracles cannot either (like attacking for longer than 10 seconds...)


Gee I wish I could clean out two mineral lines for 600/600. They are clearly a far more potent harassment option.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 09 2012 21:54 GMT
#463
death by disco ball incoming >_>
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 09 2012 21:55 GMT
#464
He's even getting +1 air attack.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 09 2012 21:55 GMT
#465
On December 10 2012 06:54 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:53 Zorgaz wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:52 Ranir wrote:
I think they need to change oracle, I really liked the force field on the mineral line or what ever that spell was named, why did they remove it? They need something like that, an harassment unit but not as crazy as this one, it's too easy to kill some drones with the oracle as it is right now, the FF on mineral line felt like a spell that required more skills than as it is right now.


No that spell sucked, this is much better. Oracles aren't that strong if you are prepared. Entomb took 0% skill

idk lol they seem like banshees on crack to me


They have way less range, no cloak, cost more and are significantly worse in a straight up fight than banshees.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 09 2012 21:55 GMT
#466
On December 10 2012 06:52 Ziggitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:47 TommyP wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:46 dani` wrote:
Btw those 4 Oracles are 600/600, let's not forget :-)

they need to be 10,000/1,000


Slightly hyperbolic, but yeah I would much much rather have 4 oracles than 6 mutas.

lol just slightly
#TheOneTrueDong
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 09 2012 21:55 GMT
#467
I can't wait to see HerO utilize all these new features of Protoss.
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 09 2012 21:55 GMT
#468
Rotti and Day9 are having so much fun casting this, it's infectious.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#469
On December 10 2012 06:54 Ziggitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:50 dani` wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:49 Enhancer_ wrote:
For the people citing the cost of the Oracle (600/600 for four of them), remember that you can get 6 Mutalisks for that same cost and get absolutely nothing done with them since they're denied by a single Queen, a couple Stalkers or a small group of Marines.

It'll get nerfed. Lots.

Not sure about comparing a Mutalisk to an Oracle like that, Mutas can do a lot of things Oracles cannot either (like attacking for longer than 10 seconds...)


Gee I wish I could clean out two mineral lines for 600/600. They are clearly a far more potent harassment option.


Have u actually played HotS?
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#470
Depending on how the meta develops, they may want to have two observers for games - so they can better cover multiple fights going on at once. (Like in Game 1 - we didn't see White-Ra's third getting sniped repeatedly.)

That's probably not a bad idea, regardless... but I think HotS is going to be more like BW in terms of having fights that don't fit on a single screen.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Demicore
Profile Joined October 2011
France503 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#471
On December 10 2012 06:54 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
death by disco ball incoming >_>


Haha so true. Now I'll always see them as disco balls, thanks.
"I love male nipples in starcraft; the two go together so well." ~Tasteless
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#472
On December 10 2012 06:55 Dodgin wrote:
He's even getting +1 air attack.

helps the void rays, but not the oracles

ret should plant down some spores
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#473
In WoL you can go 5 base in 3 minutes against ret.
Never make a hydralisk.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#474
On December 10 2012 06:55 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:54 TheKefka wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:53 Zorgaz wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:52 Ranir wrote:
I think they need to change oracle, I really liked the force field on the mineral line or what ever that spell was named, why did they remove it? They need something like that, an harassment unit but not as crazy as this one, it's too easy to kill some drones with the oracle as it is right now, the FF on mineral line felt like a spell that required more skills than as it is right now.


No that spell sucked, this is much better. Oracles aren't that strong if you are prepared. Entomb took 0% skill

idk lol they seem like banshees on crack to me


They have way less range, no cloak, cost more and are significantly worse in a straight up fight than banshees.

isn't banshe 150/100?
Cackle™
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#475
SPORES RET?!
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Sreka
Profile Joined May 2011
France114 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#476
Ret going SH lol, he's gonna be sad when he sees the oracles :/
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#477
On December 10 2012 06:47 Zorgaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:45 Darpa wrote:
Those things are why I dont play Hots atm. Every protoss against terran or zerg just masses 4 of them of the start, and their is literally no way to deny them. Ive never had them kill less than 15 workers.


I've played a protoss who flew in with 4 of them and get insta gibbed by my widow mine and a turret. It's okay!


had a viking instead of the turret, controls the area way better. If you snipe a few oracles before they can drain their energy its pretty hurtfull for the toss.
If you wanna troll the oracle stuff, go for neo steel frame and load in all your workers or super fast burrow.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 09 2012 21:56 GMT
#478
On December 10 2012 06:56 Demicore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:54 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
death by disco ball incoming >_>


Haha so true. Now I'll always see them as disco balls, thanks.


Their dance animation is an actual disco ball, fyi :p
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
December 09 2012 21:57 GMT
#479
If i were Ret, I wouldve GG'd the second I saw the oracles. That wouldve been hilarious.l
#TheOneTrueDong
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 09 2012 21:57 GMT
#480
MAN SO IMBA RITE
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 148 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
16:00
#123
Soulspirit vs goblin
TriGGeR vs Bunny
RotterdaM728
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 728
ProTech94
BRAT_OK 63
RushiSC 28
MindelVK 12
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 203
Dewaltoss 103
Mong 92
Sharp 49
Shine 49
Hyun 42
soO 40
Bale 38
JYJ 35
Aegong 25
[ Show more ]
Noble 23
Rock 19
NotJumperer 17
IntoTheRainbow 17
Counter-Strike
fl0m5897
Other Games
singsing2211
B2W.Neo283
TKL 276
C9.Mang0201
CosmosSc2 91
Liquid`VortiX89
ArmadaUGS83
QueenE74
XaKoH 65
KnowMe59
XcaliburYe53
Trikslyr48
Rex23
Grubby4
JuggernautJason1
Organizations
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 377
angryscii 7
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 39
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix10
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2087
• Nemesis1432
Other Games
• Shiphtur321
• imaqtpie232
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 36m
Replay Cast
7h 6m
Korean StarCraft League
9h 36m
Afreeca Starleague
10h 36m
RSL Revival
15h 36m
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
21h 36m
RSL Revival
1d 15h
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
OSC
1d 18h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
INu's Battles
3 days
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-22
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
Escore Tournament S3: W4
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.