
Bomber's simcity and position is really strong though.
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LunaSaint
United Kingdom620 Posts
![]() Bomber's simcity and position is really strong though. | ||
neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:24 wangstra wrote: I really wish Blizzard had kept their promise when SC2 came out that they wanted to make air units viable fighting force compared to BW where they were supplemental. As it were sky terran and sky toss just don't make the cut as viable fighting forces on their own. Even sky zerg is lopsided involving only two units. You also have to use a few overseers to see what's under the mothership. You can't just reveal + dismantle everything with a few fungals. | ||
teamamerica
United States958 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:33 TheBB wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 09:32 revel8 wrote: On December 01 2012 09:29 TheBB wrote: After WB5, LB5 and Sniper vs Huk. Most likely winners: Leenock: 41.82% viOLet: 19.09% Symbol: 17.54% Polt: 15.23% Creator: 2.67% HerO: 1.08% DongRaeGu: 1.00% Sniper: 0.65% HyuN: 0.38% Bomber: 0.36% TheStC: 0.08% Sleep: 0.05% BBoongBBoong: 0.03% Snute: 0.01% XiGua: >0.00% details, data source, code + Show Spoiler [Life expectancies] + Leenock: 10.68 rounds (top 2) viOLet: 9.97 rounds (top 3) Symbol: 9.88 rounds (top 3) Polt: 9.70 rounds (top 3) Creator: 7.53 rounds (top 6) HerO: 7.20 rounds (top 8) Sniper: 7.05 rounds (top 8) Sleep: 6.85 rounds (top 8) TheStC: 6.56 rounds (top 8) DongRaeGu: 6.33 rounds (top 12) Bomber: 6.26 rounds (top 12) BBoongBBoong: 6.05 rounds (top 12) HyuN: 5.97 rounds (top 12) xigua: 5.57 rounds (top 12) Snute: 5.40 rounds (top 16) HuK: 5.00 rounds (top 16) Squirtle: 4.00 rounds (top 24) YoDa: 4.00 rounds (top 24) Life: 4.00 rounds (top 24) Scarlett: 4.00 rounds (top 24) TaeJa: 4.00 rounds (top 24) Crank: 4.00 rounds (top 24) aLive: 4.00 rounds (top 24) San: 4.00 rounds (top 24) Sea: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Vortix: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Ryung: 3.00 rounds (top 32) MC: 3.00 rounds (top 32) sculp: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Bogus: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Seed: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Stephano: 3.00 rounds (top 32) puCK: 2.00 rounds (top 40) ViBE: 2.00 rounds (top 40) goswser: 2.00 rounds (top 40) Naniwa: 2.00 rounds (top 40) MMA: 2.00 rounds (top 40) Shine: 2.00 rounds (top 40) ToD: 2.00 rounds (top 40) Heart: 2.00 rounds (top 40) Nerchio: 1.00 rounds (top 56) TubbyTheFat: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Byun: 1.00 rounds (top 56) CatZ: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Caliber: 1.00 rounds (top 56) HwangSin: 1.00 rounds (top 56) GanZi: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Golden: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Genius: 1.00 rounds (top 56) drewbie: 1.00 rounds (top 56) ByuL: 1.00 rounds (top 56) MaSsan: 1.00 rounds (top 56) luvsic: 1.00 rounds (top 56) LucifroN: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Sasquatch: 1.00 rounds (top 56) theognis: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Shuttle: 0.00 rounds (top 72) Glon: 0.00 rounds (top 72) sLivko: 0.00 rounds (top 72) Perfect: 0.00 rounds (top 72) Apocalypse: 0.00 rounds (top 72) Eifersuchtig: 0.00 rounds (top 72) TriMaster: 0.00 rounds (top 72) daisuki: 0.00 rounds (top 72) MajOr: 0.00 rounds (top 72) + Show Spoiler [Details] + Detailed placement probabilities Xigua has > 0.00% chance of winning? Not very specific! It's standard terminology. It means it's not impossible, but estimated at below printed precision. His chance is tiny, with coin-flip and zerg power scenario in SC2 right now, still possible in some sense. | ||
TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:33 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 09:33 TheBB wrote: On December 01 2012 09:32 revel8 wrote: On December 01 2012 09:29 TheBB wrote: After WB5, LB5 and Sniper vs Huk. Most likely winners: Leenock: 41.82% viOLet: 19.09% Symbol: 17.54% Polt: 15.23% Creator: 2.67% HerO: 1.08% DongRaeGu: 1.00% Sniper: 0.65% HyuN: 0.38% Bomber: 0.36% TheStC: 0.08% Sleep: 0.05% BBoongBBoong: 0.03% Snute: 0.01% XiGua: >0.00% details, data source, code + Show Spoiler [Life expectancies] + Leenock: 10.68 rounds (top 2) viOLet: 9.97 rounds (top 3) Symbol: 9.88 rounds (top 3) Polt: 9.70 rounds (top 3) Creator: 7.53 rounds (top 6) HerO: 7.20 rounds (top 8) Sniper: 7.05 rounds (top 8) Sleep: 6.85 rounds (top 8) TheStC: 6.56 rounds (top 8) DongRaeGu: 6.33 rounds (top 12) Bomber: 6.26 rounds (top 12) BBoongBBoong: 6.05 rounds (top 12) HyuN: 5.97 rounds (top 12) xigua: 5.57 rounds (top 12) Snute: 5.40 rounds (top 16) HuK: 5.00 rounds (top 16) Squirtle: 4.00 rounds (top 24) YoDa: 4.00 rounds (top 24) Life: 4.00 rounds (top 24) Scarlett: 4.00 rounds (top 24) TaeJa: 4.00 rounds (top 24) Crank: 4.00 rounds (top 24) aLive: 4.00 rounds (top 24) San: 4.00 rounds (top 24) Sea: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Vortix: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Ryung: 3.00 rounds (top 32) MC: 3.00 rounds (top 32) sculp: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Bogus: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Seed: 3.00 rounds (top 32) Stephano: 3.00 rounds (top 32) puCK: 2.00 rounds (top 40) ViBE: 2.00 rounds (top 40) goswser: 2.00 rounds (top 40) Naniwa: 2.00 rounds (top 40) MMA: 2.00 rounds (top 40) Shine: 2.00 rounds (top 40) ToD: 2.00 rounds (top 40) Heart: 2.00 rounds (top 40) Nerchio: 1.00 rounds (top 56) TubbyTheFat: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Byun: 1.00 rounds (top 56) CatZ: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Caliber: 1.00 rounds (top 56) HwangSin: 1.00 rounds (top 56) GanZi: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Golden: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Genius: 1.00 rounds (top 56) drewbie: 1.00 rounds (top 56) ByuL: 1.00 rounds (top 56) MaSsan: 1.00 rounds (top 56) luvsic: 1.00 rounds (top 56) LucifroN: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Sasquatch: 1.00 rounds (top 56) theognis: 1.00 rounds (top 56) Shuttle: 0.00 rounds (top 72) Glon: 0.00 rounds (top 72) sLivko: 0.00 rounds (top 72) Perfect: 0.00 rounds (top 72) Apocalypse: 0.00 rounds (top 72) Eifersuchtig: 0.00 rounds (top 72) TriMaster: 0.00 rounds (top 72) daisuki: 0.00 rounds (top 72) MajOr: 0.00 rounds (top 72) + Show Spoiler [Details] + Detailed placement probabilities Xigua has > 0.00% chance of winning? Not very specific! It's standard terminology. It means it's not impossible, but estimated at below printed precision. I guess what he means is technically > 0% can mean anything while saying < 0.01% would convey the same meaning you want Well yeah, but what I'm saying is that this is used practically everywhere in situations like these, so I dunno if I want to change it. | ||
Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:35 Pey wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 09:33 Scrubwave wrote: On December 01 2012 09:32 Pey wrote: Why is it that commentators in SC2 so often use 'he's all over the place' to praise players, when that idiom really is a negative one? Is it negative? Yeah, it means you're disoriented, disorganised or confused. In football commentators use it when teams defend terribly for example Different terms for different places. In starcraft it means he is multitasking like a monster aka attacking everywhere at the same time. | ||
Discerpo
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MooMu
Canada615 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:35 calQL8r wrote: sorry I'm new at sc2 but why do people say that stephano and nerchio is the best foreign Zergs if snute made it so far? Stephano used to own until recently. He hasn't had much success in the major tournaments in the last few months. | ||
lolspoon
450 Posts
edit: well im glad it was just a trade and it still ok for snute, but u never know, full foreigner mode and bomber wins | ||
Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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Gesarjack
Switzerland117 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:33 JacobShock wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 09:30 wangstra wrote: On December 01 2012 09:26 Chenz wrote: On December 01 2012 09:25 Thrillz wrote: Everyone knows it, everyone thinks it, but it cannot be spoken in TL. Such a word has become the He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named equivalent in SC2. It most certainly can be mentioned on TL, but LR threads are not the place for such discussion. The unstoppable force that you come up against again and again is that its precisely within LR that people can observe together supposed imbalances in the game. Actual balance threads while serving a needed purpose are stale in comparison in capturing that communal observation in real time. Yes, cause taking a few minutes, hours, or days to reflect and you know think is not the way to go about anything in life. No lets express ourselves in the now and annoy everyone while doing so. yes.. While I can't really disagree with what you're saying, I don't see how we are more annoying than the people explaining to us how the top protosses / terrans in the world made huge critical mistakes, should have played better in order to win, took terrible engagements, and on and on... | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:36 Mouzone wrote: Why is it that all pro zergs insist on keeping their banelings clumped up? Because they don't need to split them to win, just to win faster. | ||
templar rage
United States2509 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:35 Pey wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 09:33 Scrubwave wrote: On December 01 2012 09:32 Pey wrote: Why is it that commentators in SC2 so often use 'he's all over the place' to praise players, when that idiom really is a negative one? Is it negative? Yeah, it means you're disoriented, disorganised or confused. In football commentators use it when teams defend terribly for example I think they mean it like "he's multitasking really well". Kinda weird I guess given that you're right in that the general meaning is bad, but it works IMO. Maybe saying "all over the map" eliminates the confusion? | ||
Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43798 Posts
Come on Bomber! | ||
XiGua
Sweden3085 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
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wangstra
922 Posts
On December 01 2012 09:33 JacobShock wrote: Show nested quote + On December 01 2012 09:30 wangstra wrote: On December 01 2012 09:26 Chenz wrote: On December 01 2012 09:25 Thrillz wrote: Everyone knows it, everyone thinks it, but it cannot be spoken in TL. Such a word has become the He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named equivalent in SC2. It most certainly can be mentioned on TL, but LR threads are not the place for such discussion. The unstoppable force that you come up against again and again is that its precisely within LR that people can observe together supposed imbalances in the game. Actual balance threads while serving a needed purpose are stale in comparison in capturing that communal observation in real time. Yes, cause taking a few minutes, hours, or days to reflect and you know think is not the way to go about anything in life. No lets express ourselves in the now and annoy everyone while doing so. yes.. Not arguing with you bro. Just stating the obvious that can be observed. | ||
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