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Ladies and gentlemen, it is page 143 and any patchzerg, balance related commentary and the usual bashing etc from this point on will be met with harsh moderation.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
November 30 2012 23:32 GMT
#2601
On December 01 2012 08:32 Ketch wrote:
Alive read that wrong?


I can't see any other reason for that. I mean he didn't have any bunkers, a wall or even siege mode. He was dead from the minute the first banelings morphed.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#2602
On December 01 2012 08:24 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 08:20 Godwrath wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:19 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:17 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:17 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
lawl HSM


Z makes 20 infestors, is OP

T makes 3 ravens, HSM obviously sucks


errrrr


well fungal always connects \:D/


And how the fuck do you build 20 Ravens ?


And why the fuck would you build 20 ravens anyway ?

Because mass ravens is hilarious

also happen to have this saved from a FFA I played with friends a long time ago

[image loading]
[image loading]
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 23:33:38
November 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#2603
hyun's roach/ling/bane timing soulful or soulless?
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
November 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#2604
On December 01 2012 08:32 Ketch wrote:
Alive read that wrong?


And Hyun being the beast he is.
Snowbear
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1925 Posts
November 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#2605
On December 01 2012 08:31 FlyingTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 08:29 Snowbear wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:27 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:23 MasterKang wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:22 Pandain wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:19 Snowbear wrote:
Can someone tell me why alive lost this one? I don't see his mistake


His mid game timing got absolutely crushed and from there it was an uphill battle which he almost did but couldn't quite micro like the God you need to to make TvZ comebacks.

But people probably forgot about that push and instead complain about balance.


and why do terran lose 90% of games if their mid-game push doesn't do insane damage? hmm...


Maybe because they invest majorly in the push and don't get up a nice infrastructure plus expansions? Maybe because pushes in general tend to hurt the player doing them if no damage is done? -__-


But the question is, why didn't the push do damage? I saw good tank spread, siege, and splits. I don't see what alive could've done better with that push (not saying Z is imba guys, just wondering what alive did wrong!!!).


It all depends on what the Zerg is investing in. Most zergs nowadays expect the pre-hive timing and focus on getting base defense and a strong defensive comp instead of getting more tech/expansions/macro infrastructure. If the Terran realizes that the Zerg is preparing in this manner, he can just scrap the push and tech/expand faster because the Zerg is investing in defense.


And tech to what? Ravens? BOOM ultralisks are in the house! Battlecruisers? Ghosts? Thors???
kju
Profile Joined September 2010
6143 Posts
November 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#2606
Hyun vs. DRG

the only 2 zergs I like :/
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2607
Interesting play by Xigua, he stayed alive longer than I thought he would in that game.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2608
As saddening as the first game was, that was a really smart play by Hyun.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2609
Fucking YoDa. Gah. May he catch a debilitating disease. I will go sleep and lick my wounds.
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2610
Thank YOU Grubby, awesome casting !
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2611
If Bomber loses to Snute I will probably break something =(
FlyingTurtle
Profile Joined February 2012
United States248 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2612
On December 01 2012 08:33 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 08:31 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:29 Snowbear wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:27 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:23 MasterKang wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:22 Pandain wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:19 Snowbear wrote:
Can someone tell me why alive lost this one? I don't see his mistake


His mid game timing got absolutely crushed and from there it was an uphill battle which he almost did but couldn't quite micro like the God you need to to make TvZ comebacks.

But people probably forgot about that push and instead complain about balance.


and why do terran lose 90% of games if their mid-game push doesn't do insane damage? hmm...


Maybe because they invest majorly in the push and don't get up a nice infrastructure plus expansions? Maybe because pushes in general tend to hurt the player doing them if no damage is done? -__-


But the question is, why didn't the push do damage? I saw good tank spread, siege, and splits. I don't see what alive could've done better with that push (not saying Z is imba guys, just wondering what alive did wrong!!!).


It all depends on what the Zerg is investing in. Most zergs nowadays expect the pre-hive timing and focus on getting base defense and a strong defensive comp instead of getting more tech/expansions/macro infrastructure. If the Terran realizes that the Zerg is preparing in this manner, he can just scrap the push and tech/expand faster because the Zerg is investing in defense.


And tech to what? Ravens? BOOM ultralisks are in the house! Battlecruisers? Ghosts? Thors???


Tech as in air upgrades (which are usually left out for the pre-hive timing), more starports, techlabs for Marauders vs Ultras and Ravens vs BLs.
"This creature is the completion of a cycle. Its role in the cosmic order was preordained when the stars were young. Behold the culmination of your history." -Samir Duran, on the Hybrid
projectChaos
Profile Joined December 2011
154 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2613
Zerg only finals incoming, but it is ok the numbers are showing balance.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2614
On December 01 2012 08:33 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 08:24 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:20 Godwrath wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:19 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:17 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:17 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
lawl HSM


Z makes 20 infestors, is OP

T makes 3 ravens, HSM obviously sucks


errrrr


well fungal always connects \:D/


And how the fuck do you build 20 Ravens ?


And why the fuck would you build 20 ravens anyway ?

Because mass ravens is hilarious

also happen to have this saved from a FFA I played with friends a long time ago

[image loading]
[image loading]


split didn't exist in starcraft 2 when u took this screenshot? xD
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
November 30 2012 23:34 GMT
#2615
On December 01 2012 08:33 Zelniq wrote:
hyun's roach/ling/bane timing soulful or soulless?


Soulful
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
November 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#2616
Does anyone know exactly how are they gonna distribute GSL, WC and IPL throughout the weekend?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6668 Posts
November 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#2617
On December 01 2012 08:33 Zelniq wrote:
hyun's roach/ling/bane timing soulful or soulless?

Hmm can a vicious animal truly have a soul?

HyuN is a deadly beast, better then having a soul.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#2618
On December 01 2012 08:34 Asha` wrote:
If Bomber loses to Snute I will probably break something =(

Bomber has been playing too well today. it's only a matter of time before he...



bombs out
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#2619
On December 01 2012 08:33 Zelniq wrote:
hyun's roach/ling/bane timing soulful or soulless?


Should I add Hyun to the soul list?
Moderator
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 30 2012 23:35 GMT
#2620
hahah, 7gate?
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