EPT[IPL5] Day 2 - Page 129
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Prof
Canada60 Posts
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Maloreon
United States911 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:23 MasterKang wrote: and why do terran lose 90% of games if their mid-game push doesn't do insane damage? hmm... Well you can also consider their push as an investment which needs to pay off to be worth it. vs. another style which has been popping up more lately which is investing into tech and mass OC's instead (turtle mech). I like the latter - though I'm not sure most people want to watch it. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:23 Snowbear wrote: Yeah true, but then I wonder why hyun crushed alive's army in the midgame. I saw alive being sieged, and good splits. Alive HAD to attack, since broodlords would come, right? Hyun was just on top of it, he had like the perfect army (roach ling baneling infestor) to the type of build Alive was doing. Alive should've played passively after keeping economically even with Hyun and played Metropolis split map style the way it is. Blade, I feel your pain. | ||
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Severian
Australia2052 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:24 Lunareste wrote: Don't forget that he's the ladykiller. He made SlayerS Eve cry. .....I fucking hate that guy. Yeah, you've got to have a history of BM to make that work for you. | ||
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SicPro
United States202 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:11 Fionn wrote: cool, sniper gets to kill another fan favorite. fun for him. Yeah, maybe, but when are you and the other TL writers going to admit that Huk (and NaNiwa most of the time) are at least worthy of being in the top30 power rank? They do this quite consistently where either one or the other makes a strong run ahead of all other foreigners. And yet they continue to be ranked below people such as MMA, Ryung, Bogus, Sting, Vortix... etc.... When is consistency going to come into play? You been biased against these two toss since day one. Even when they were top of their game. | ||
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FlyingTurtle
United States248 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:23 MasterKang wrote: and why do terran lose 90% of games if their mid-game push doesn't do insane damage? hmm... Maybe because they invest majorly in the push and don't get up a nice infrastructure plus expansions? Maybe because pushes in general tend to hurt the player doing them if no damage is done? -__- | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:26 ref4 wrote: is it just me or does Kibblez comes off like a condescending asshole? fuck that guy. How so? I remember him somewhat ignoring co-casters back in the day (not doing it now) and being kinda condecending towards the players. Pointing out flaws in an excessive manner. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:26 Prof wrote: Xigua 22 slow lings???? And just think this guy is already in the money and he won't have to win a single game. Stupid tournament bracket setup. Round 4 was wayyy too far in the bracket for the seeded players. | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:26 Prof wrote: Xigua 22 slow lings???? And just think this guy is already in the money and he won't have to win a single game. Stupid tournament bracket setup. You haven't witnessed a slow ling all in before? | ||
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:27 FlyingTurtle wrote: Maybe because they invest majorly in the push and don't get up a nice infrastructure plus expansions? Maybe because pushes in general tend to hurt the player doing them if no damage is done? -__- But the question is, why didn't the push do damage? I saw good tank spread, siege, and splits. I don't see what alive could've done better with that push (not saying Z is imba guys, just wondering what alive did wrong!!!). | ||
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zerious
Canada3803 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:27 SicPro wrote: Yeah, maybe, but when are you and the other TL writers going to admit that Huk (and NaNiwa most of the time) are at least worthy of being in the top30 power rank? They do this quite consistently where either one or the other makes a strong run ahead of all other foreigners. And yet they continue to be ranked below people such as MMA, Ryung, Bogus, Sting, Vortix... etc.... When is consistency going to come into play? You been biased against these two toss since day one. Even when they were top of their game. lol huk? when was the last time u watched sc2? | ||
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Doko
Argentina1737 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:24 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: And why the fuck would you build 20 ravens anyway ? Lets see. - Free damage from energy - Extra micro for the zerg that has to splits vs 20 seeker missiles - Enough turrets to make it impossible for ultras to ever break a position with units behind it. - Harrasment that leads to the opponent splitting his attention, which leads to more mistakes - Point defense for when your vikings are spread out to avoid fungals and corruptors start poking at the exposed flanks. The real question is... if you could, why the fuck wouldn't you build 20 ravens? | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:28 Boucot wrote: Round 4 was wayyy too far in the bracket for the seeded players. just realised he's getting paid, now that's some fucked up shit. | ||
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:28 Boucot wrote: Round 4 was wayyy too far in the bracket for the seeded players. I agree. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:29 Snowbear wrote: But the question is, why didn't the push do damage? I saw good tank spread, siege, and splits. I don't see what alive could've done better with that push (not saying Z is imba guys, just wondering what alive did wrong!!!). Did you read my response? And I think your trying to make a point just being polite about it. | ||
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Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:29 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: just realised he's getting paid, now that's some fucked up shit. To be fair he had to win a tournament for it. It's not like he just signed up somewhere. | ||
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Voreau
United States192 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:29 Doko wrote: Lets see. - Free damage from energy - Extra micro for the zerg that has to splits vs 20 seeker missiles - Enough turrets to make it impossible for ultras to ever break a position with units behind it. - Harrasment that leads to the opponent splitting his attention, which leads to more mistakes - Point defense for when your vikings are spread out to avoid fungals and corruptors start poking at the exposed flanks. The real question is... if you could, why the fuck wouldn't you build 20 ravens? Cause when they remax on ultras, you're pretty boned. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:27 SicPro wrote: Yeah, maybe, but when are you and the other TL writers going to admit that Huk (and NaNiwa most of the time) are at least worthy of being in the top30 power rank? They do this quite consistently where either one or the other makes a strong run ahead of all other foreigners. And yet they continue to be ranked below people such as MMA, Ryung, Bogus, Sting, Vortix... etc.... When is consistency going to come into play? You been biased against these two toss since day one. Even when they were top of their game. I had Naniwa ranked over MMA. MMA wasn't even in my top 30. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On December 01 2012 08:27 SicPro wrote: Yeah, maybe, but when are you and the other TL writers going to admit that Huk (and NaNiwa most of the time) are at least worthy of being in the top30 power rank? They do this quite consistently where either one or the other makes a strong run ahead of all other foreigners. And yet they continue to be ranked below people such as MMA, Ryung, Bogus, Sting, Vortix... etc.... When is consistency going to come into play? You been biased against these two toss since day one. Even when they were top of their game. The Fionn Curse works both ways. Players he likes lose, and players he doesn't like also lose. Basically Fionn is Sniper. | ||
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