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[Code S] RO8 Day 2 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 54

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dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
November 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#1061
Bogus 3- 0 :O
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
November 21 2012 13:10 GMT
#1062
the fact that different players seem to win and lose all the time in sc2 is not something to be happy about imo. it shows the game is badly designed, or at the very least is nowhere near figured out yet. of course if the same person would actually win all the time, it would be really boring too, but being even just a little bit better than your opponent SHOULD give you a much bigger chance of winning the game. alas, it does not.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
November 21 2012 13:12 GMT
#1063
It feels as if the match results are decided by a coinflip. >>
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
November 21 2012 13:12 GMT
#1064
Wow! Bogus so gosu! <3 Sad for Soulkey tho
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
November 21 2012 13:14 GMT
#1065
really thought it was Leenock's time... pretty surprised by the last four standing! excited to see new contenders (although most of them are not "new")
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
November 21 2012 13:14 GMT
#1066
I really hate the people spouting off nonsense about how bad this is. The players who win advance. That's how it is, that's how it should be. All of these players defeated fantastic players to get to this point. Who the fuck are you to say they don't deserve it.

Anyways, GO HYUN!
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Skyling
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
November 21 2012 13:17 GMT
#1067
Woo Hoo as a DRG and MVP fan-boy I am excited that sniper made it to the round of 4. Its like cheering for DRG by proxy :p
6BiT
Profile Joined December 2011
513 Posts
November 21 2012 13:18 GMT
#1068
On November 21 2012 21:15 Dodgin wrote:
So, in 2012 we'll have four new GSL champions and one repeat champion ( Mvp )

I wonder if this will continue or if it will stabilize next year and we will start seeing multiple title players again.

I guess it really depends on HOTS since there will only be one more WOL GSL.


If things continue to go as they are now with little consistency and new champions every season I doubt we'll ever see Mvp's GSL records be broken.


I don't see Mvp's records being broken for a loooong time. Its much harder to win a GSL in 2012 thanks to tournament length and tougher competition.
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kmh
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland351 Posts
November 21 2012 13:27 GMT
#1069
On November 21 2012 21:59 MikeMM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 20:55 ZerglingTwins wrote:

I would guess right now, at least 100 players in Korea can win GSL Code S when they are on fire.

They are just so even skillwise, anyone can beat anyone, and the game is so volatile.

I agree.
There is too much randomness in SC2.



Boxing is so random. Anyone can beat anyone and the sport is so volatile. There is too much randomness in boxing.

Any time you have an elimination tournament, you are going to have upsets. You only need to lose 2-4 maps to drop out of the running. If you want a "fairer" tournament, have everyone play round robin instead.
kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 13:29:30
November 21 2012 13:28 GMT
#1070
I don't have the statistics but I guess that few people have more than 50% correct on their liquibet this season. Normal seasons I get like 60% correct.

SC2 is so damn competitive at top top level. 50 top players in the world can easily win each other on a good day.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 21 2012 13:34 GMT
#1071
On November 21 2012 22:27 kmh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 21:59 MikeMM wrote:
On November 21 2012 20:55 ZerglingTwins wrote:

I would guess right now, at least 100 players in Korea can win GSL Code S when they are on fire.

They are just so even skillwise, anyone can beat anyone, and the game is so volatile.

I agree.
There is too much randomness in SC2.

If you want a "fairer" tournament, have everyone play round robin instead.

Actually I would really like to see this. I was excited about NASL's format (and I still am), but they fall short in several other respects.

I'd die to see a proleague-style round robin without all-kill format including Kespa and ESF teams, too.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
November 21 2012 13:45 GMT
#1072
A GomTvT final in December 2012? Would really be the surprise of the year.

Can't see Hyun standing up to Bogus, not after today's games. That was just code S vs Master league. Sniper can beat Ryung, but I'm still betting on Ryung for that one.
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Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 13:59:06
November 21 2012 13:58 GMT
#1073
Wow I can't believe that Leenock lost! Both Life and Leenock out! I wonder if these other zergs can keep up the level to take the trophy ! I guess it goes to show that some people are just way better in certain mu's !

Edit: Yay finally 2 000
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
November 21 2012 14:01 GMT
#1074
On November 21 2012 22:14 Zennith wrote:
I really hate the people spouting off nonsense about how bad this is. The players who win advance. That's how it is, that's how it should be. All of these players defeated fantastic players to get to this point. Who the fuck are you to say they don't deserve it.

Anyways, GO HYUN!

How the semi-finalists reached the semi-finals:
Hyun
Bye vs Rain
1-2 vs Yoda
2-1 vs Gumiho

2-0 vs Yoda
1-2 vs MKP
2-1 vs Hack

3-1 vs Creator

Bogus
0-2 vs Leenock
2-0 vs Squirtle
2-0 vs Keen

2-1 vs Sniper
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Soulkey

Ryung
2-1 vs Vampire
0-2 vs Life
2-1 vs Vampire

1-2 vs Curious
2-0 vs DRG
2-0 vs Curious

3-1 vs MKP

Sniper
2-1 vs Seed
1-2 vs MKP
2-0 vs Sos/Shy

1-2 vs Bogus
2-0 vs Parting
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Leenock

None of those strike me as very impressive runs. And many of the games were won because the opponent played poorly. All four of them looked bad in the ro32 and were lucky to get into the ro16. Only once did one of them manage to finish first in a group, and that was when Bogus finished ahead of Sniper.
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2986 Posts
November 21 2012 14:21 GMT
#1075
Wow what a spanking ! Bogus is the new Life. His execution is just flawless, makes MVP looks like a sloppy player.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 21 2012 14:37 GMT
#1076
On November 21 2012 22:45 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
A GomTvT final in December 2012? Would really be the surprise of the year.

Can't see Hyun standing up to Bogus, not after today's games. That was just code S vs Master league. Sniper can beat Ryung, but I'm still betting on Ryung for that one.

I can definitely see Hyun standing up to Bogus if he plays like IPL Hyun. One sided series always cause a bit of overration, Soulkey played quite well after putting himself behind in game 1, game 2 was just a BO loss really once he didn't scout the 2fact and played extremely greedy (no RW, no spores, would have lost to hellion/cloak banshee as well). Game 3 was just about the same BO loss, such a late pool against a 2 rax on closer positions is already extremely hard to hold off even with good micro, and Soulkey just seemed dejected and tilted after his second loss, showed awful micro. He can micro way better than that.

I expect a close series, and I actually expect Hyun to win it, if he plays at the top of his game. We haven't seen yet how Bogus handles BL/Infestor on even econ.

I expect Ryung to beat Sniper, but who knows, since Sniper just doesn't care about who he's supposed to lose to.
I love crazymoving
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 21 2012 14:40 GMT
#1077
On November 21 2012 23:01 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 22:14 Zennith wrote:
I really hate the people spouting off nonsense about how bad this is. The players who win advance. That's how it is, that's how it should be. All of these players defeated fantastic players to get to this point. Who the fuck are you to say they don't deserve it.

Anyways, GO HYUN!

How the semi-finalists reached the semi-finals:
Hyun
Bye vs Rain
1-2 vs Yoda
2-1 vs Gumiho

2-0 vs Yoda
1-2 vs MKP
2-1 vs Hack

3-1 vs Creator

Bogus
0-2 vs Leenock
2-0 vs Squirtle
2-0 vs Keen

2-1 vs Sniper
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Soulkey

Ryung
2-1 vs Vampire
0-2 vs Life
2-1 vs Vampire

1-2 vs Curious
2-0 vs DRG
2-0 vs Curious

3-1 vs MKP

Sniper
2-1 vs Seed
1-2 vs MKP
2-0 vs Sos/Shy

1-2 vs Bogus
2-0 vs Parting
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Leenock

None of those strike me as very impressive runs. And many of the games were won because the opponent played poorly. All four of them looked bad in the ro32 and were lucky to get into the ro16. Only once did one of them manage to finish first in a group, and that was when Bogus finished ahead of Sniper.

Ryung looked BAD in Ro32? Are you serious? Did you watch his TvZs against DRG and Curious, or are you just talking out of your ass? He played near perfect TvZ.
I love crazymoving
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-21 14:52:37
November 21 2012 14:45 GMT
#1078
On November 21 2012 23:40 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 23:01 Melliflue wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:14 Zennith wrote:
I really hate the people spouting off nonsense about how bad this is. The players who win advance. That's how it is, that's how it should be. All of these players defeated fantastic players to get to this point. Who the fuck are you to say they don't deserve it.

Anyways, GO HYUN!

How the semi-finalists reached the semi-finals:
Hyun
Bye vs Rain
1-2 vs Yoda
2-1 vs Gumiho

2-0 vs Yoda
1-2 vs MKP
2-1 vs Hack

3-1 vs Creator

Bogus
0-2 vs Leenock
2-0 vs Squirtle
2-0 vs Keen

2-1 vs Sniper
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Soulkey

Ryung
2-1 vs Vampire
0-2 vs Life
2-1 vs Vampire

1-2 vs Curious
2-0 vs DRG
2-0 vs Curious

3-1 vs MKP

Sniper
2-1 vs Seed
1-2 vs MKP
2-0 vs Sos/Shy

1-2 vs Bogus
2-0 vs Parting
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Leenock

None of those strike me as very impressive runs. And many of the games were won because the opponent played poorly. All four of them looked bad in the ro32 and were lucky to get into the ro16. Only once did one of them manage to finish first in a group, and that was when Bogus finished ahead of Sniper.

Ryung looked BAD in Ro32? Are you serious? Did you watch his TvZs against DRG and Curious, or are you just talking out of your ass? He played near perfect TvZ.

Did you watch the ro32? He scraped by vampire and was crushed by Life. Youre talking about the ro16
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Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
November 21 2012 14:48 GMT
#1079
On November 21 2012 23:40 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 23:01 Melliflue wrote:
On November 21 2012 22:14 Zennith wrote:
I really hate the people spouting off nonsense about how bad this is. The players who win advance. That's how it is, that's how it should be. All of these players defeated fantastic players to get to this point. Who the fuck are you to say they don't deserve it.

Anyways, GO HYUN!

How the semi-finalists reached the semi-finals:
Hyun
Bye vs Rain
1-2 vs Yoda
2-1 vs Gumiho

2-0 vs Yoda
1-2 vs MKP
2-1 vs Hack

3-1 vs Creator

Bogus
0-2 vs Leenock
2-0 vs Squirtle
2-0 vs Keen

2-1 vs Sniper
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Soulkey

Ryung
2-1 vs Vampire
0-2 vs Life
2-1 vs Vampire

1-2 vs Curious
2-0 vs DRG
2-0 vs Curious

3-1 vs MKP

Sniper
2-1 vs Seed
1-2 vs MKP
2-0 vs Sos/Shy

1-2 vs Bogus
2-0 vs Parting
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Leenock

None of those strike me as very impressive runs. And many of the games were won because the opponent played poorly. All four of them looked bad in the ro32 and were lucky to get into the ro16. Only once did one of them manage to finish first in a group, and that was when Bogus finished ahead of Sniper.

Ryung looked BAD in Ro32? Are you serious? Did you watch his TvZs against DRG and Curious, or are you just talking out of your ass? He played near perfect TvZ.

In the ro16 he was awesome, I agree. He looked very strong. But as Shellshock said, in the ro32 he barely scraped past Vampire. That's what I meant. Since then he has been great but his start wasn't up to the same standard.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
November 21 2012 14:51 GMT
#1080
On November 21 2012 23:01 Melliflue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2012 22:14 Zennith wrote:
I really hate the people spouting off nonsense about how bad this is. The players who win advance. That's how it is, that's how it should be. All of these players defeated fantastic players to get to this point. Who the fuck are you to say they don't deserve it.

Anyways, GO HYUN!

How the semi-finalists reached the semi-finals:
Hyun
Bye vs Rain
1-2 vs Yoda
2-1 vs Gumiho

2-0 vs Yoda
1-2 vs MKP
2-1 vs Hack

3-1 vs Creator

Bogus
0-2 vs Leenock
2-0 vs Squirtle
2-0 vs Keen

2-1 vs Sniper
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Soulkey

Ryung
2-1 vs Vampire
0-2 vs Life
2-1 vs Vampire

1-2 vs Curious
2-0 vs DRG
2-0 vs Curious

3-1 vs MKP

Sniper
2-1 vs Seed
1-2 vs MKP
2-0 vs Sos/Shy

1-2 vs Bogus
2-0 vs Parting
2-0 vs Polt

3-0 vs Leenock

None of those strike me as very impressive runs. And many of the games were won because the opponent played poorly. All four of them looked bad in the ro32 and were lucky to get into the ro16. Only once did one of them manage to finish first in a group, and that was when Bogus finished ahead of Sniper.

And what's your point? "They played better than their opponents, they shouldn't be in the semifinals"? Everyone is whining because all the favorites are out. Get over it.
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