EPT[Code S] RO8 Day 1 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 99
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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Greenei
Germany1754 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:41 ToKoreaWithLove wrote: Ryungs games have by far been the most entertaining this season. Its so refreshing to see good positional play. I wish for a leenock/ryung semi at least. That would be amazing. Ryung is really really good and always seems to get left out when people talk about top players and such. Needs a bit of work on his TvP, though. Not that it matters for this season lololol | ||
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Suit and Tie
United States8 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:36 KristofferAG wrote: How is it poor sportsmanship. Are you saying that in a soccer game, a team should just forfeit when they're down 3-0 and there's 20 minutes left? SHould they just stop playing? Where the hell are you taking this logic from? That's totally a fair comparison because soccer is just like SC2 in that the standard way to end a game is for the clearly losing player to quit when he/she has lost... | ||
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:35 Azzur wrote: The game was a cleanly won through simple outplaying Actually, I'm glad to see that MKP's contain strategy getting trounced as I think it's a bad strategy No it's not its just executed , by a bad positional TvT player . The easiest way to win TvT on ladder is get a contain going , get vikings for air superiority , and scan a lot and build sensor towers to keep track of his army . | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
Win macrogames vs Ryung He played very very solid, go team TB! | ||
KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:43 Dodgin wrote: Leenock vs Mvp has been some of the best TvZ 's ever in the past, I think Ryung plays a similar style to Mvp in TvZ so it has the potential to be really good. Then again those games were pre queen patch so it probably won't be quite the same. I'm still fairly certain they will be extremely entertaining to watch. Ryung seems to be very comfortable and relaxed with where he's at right now, and that definitely affects his play to some extent. | ||
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Elurie
4716 Posts
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Biane
Australia645 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:40 KristofferAG wrote: You're talking about MarineKing, known for being one of few that can make so much out of so little. Nothing is every over as long as these pros are still trying. The analogy still stands. In football and basketball giving up before the timer runs out is bad sportsmanship, is it not? If I recall, there was one game where it was MVP vs Leenock (think it was the Jjajki vs Leenock finals season?) and MVP was so clearly dead on Dual sight but never gave up and looked so incredibly strong despite having nothing (3 marine attack at 40 mins or something if i recall?). Granted he probably wouldn't have win in that situation but I don't recall people crying bad sportsmanship over it. If you're going to hate a player, fine, bring it out into the open, I have no quarrel against that but stop trying to make your attacks sound like they're legitimate especially when so many people on the LR are against you. | ||
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noddy
United Kingdom927 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:42 zefreak wrote: Guys, he wasn't crying so he is obviously perfectly fine for going out in ro8 twice in a row in what is possibly his best chance at a championship in a game he has been playing for over 2 years without which he will never have the respect that he desires. While it's obvious he was sad (and frustrated, as someone should be in this situation) MarineKing is respected by every korean pro player. You don't have to win a championship to gain respect, the fact that for 2 years he's been at the top of the game (falling off for a while) shows enough. At least he made ro8 twice in a row again! He just needs to regain his first half of the year form and he'll do just fine  | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:40 FakeDeath wrote: We have been seeing a lot of upsets. (Life,DRG,Creator,MKP,Polt,Parting,etc) I wouldn't be surprised if Sniper take out Leenock. I am a fan of both though and i prefer if Leenock wins, the guy is too cute.XDD Yeah I agree both are nice players and I like them both but Leenock has looked too great recently. I already really liked Leenock but I loved his tweets during BWC about Idra's play, just found it pretty hilarious. Should end up being a good series between him and Sniper regardless. | ||
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VavPK
United States196 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:39 noddy wrote: Whyyyyyy MarineKing, you completely raped Ryung last time you met  how can you lose to this person?! Oh well, don't even know who to root for now since neither Hyun or Ryung seem like valid players to be in the finals Please name me some football examples. There really aren't any unless you're talking about non-professional matches. Ryung deserves VERY much to win this season, stop being a hater. IF MKP deserved a finals he would have won. | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:43 Suit and Tie wrote: That's totally a fair comparison because soccer is just like SC2 in that the standard way to end a game is for the clearly losing player to quit when he/she has lost... I never said this. I never said SC2 is Soccer. I'm not comparing the sports. I'm talking about sportsmanship and the definition of it, and how it translates between sports. How the psyche of players is something to consider no matter which sport you're discussing. | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote: No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? And I'm out of Reddit and YouTube. Strike that, dinnertime! | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:44 Biane wrote: If I recall, there was one game where it was MVP vs Leenock (think it was the Jjajki vs Leenock finals season?) and MVP was so clearly dead on Dual sight but never gave up and looked so incredibly strong despite having nothing (3 marine attack at 40 mins or something if i recall?). Granted he probably wouldn't have win in that situation but I don't recall people crying bad sportsmanship over it. If you're going to hate a player, fine, bring it out into the open, I have no quarrel against that but stop trying to make your attacks sound like they're legitimate especially when so many people on the LR are against you. I feel the same way every time a player refuses to leave in a clearly lost situation. MKP is just the most consistent offender. | ||
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kyllinghest
Norway1607 Posts
Refusing to eat your broccoli is bad manners, trying to eat it even if you know you wont make it is not. Yummy. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:41 bgx wrote: It does mean a lot to many players, not only to MKP. Acting selfishly does not mean it means more to you than to others. I think it does mean more to MKP than many players, because he has come so close so many times. Getting to the finals and losing, twice, is not as bad as never making it to the finals. Just like you will be happier with 100k than you will with 200k after having a chance at millions. Cognitive bias and framing effects come in to play. Because MKP was so close so often, and has expected to win a GSL, this makes him want it more than those who never had a reasonable expectation. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote: No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom. | ||
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trwkling
658 Posts
On November 20 2012 21:44 noddy wrote: While it's obvious he was sad (and frustrated, as someone should be in this situation) MarineKing is respected by every korean pro player. You don't have to win a championship to gain respect, the fact that for 2 years he's been at the top of the game (falling off for a while) shows enough. At least he made ro8 twice in a row again! He just needs to regain his first half of the year form and he'll do just fine What I'm rooting for to. Nonetheless its not fair to take it away from Ryung! Great play! | ||
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
Heart is still broken though. Both of my man-crushes (Taeja and MKP) not winning this season is killing me. | ||
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