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Gratz to ryung, damn i missed the games
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On November 20 2012 21:48 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote:
No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom.
Pretty much this. It's one of the few ways us sports fans can have conversations that feel like they actually matter.
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I think Leenock is the zerg king of comebacks.
After watching his games against MVP/MMA at Providence and versus HerO/Squirtle in GSL, versus Life/DRG/Bomber in GSTL MLG.
Leenock always seem to find a way to facilitate comebacks.
But he knows when to GG when the game is clearly over.
I respect MKP but sometimes he need to know when to GG. 200 supply to 30 supply is just..........
I understand his frustration but he isn't the only player that is losing games.
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On November 20 2012 21:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:44 Biane wrote:On November 20 2012 21:40 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:39 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:36 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 20 2012 21:34 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:34 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 20 2012 21:33 Venomsflame wrote:On November 20 2012 21:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I am really sick of watching Marineking not leaving games that are so clearly fucking lost. It's incredibly BM and really stupid to watch. I wish he would get disciplined over it or something. That was the last game... You could have uhm... Stopped watching? He does this ALL THE DAMN TIME. It's getting really...REALLY old. Yes, how dare he try his utmost and get sad and desperate when he really wants to win. It's poor sportsmanship. I thought the SC2 community was all about sportsmanship, guess not! How is it poor sportsmanship. Are you saying that in a soccer game, a team should just forfeit when they're down 3-0 and there's 20 minutes left? SHould they just stop playing? Where the hell are you taking this logic from? Having one cc,down half the supply is equal to being down 3-0 with 20 mins left in a football game?I don't think so. There are plenty of examples football and basketball where there is still time on the clock and players just choose to not play it out because the obviously lost. You're talking about MarineKing, known for being one of few that can make so much out of so little. Nothing is every over as long as these pros are still trying. The analogy still stands. In football and basketball giving up before the timer runs out is bad sportsmanship, is it not? If I recall, there was one game where it was MVP vs Leenock (think it was the Jjajki vs Leenock finals season?) and MVP was so clearly dead on Dual sight but never gave up and looked so incredibly strong despite having nothing (3 marine attack at 40 mins or something if i recall?). Granted he probably wouldn't have win in that situation but I don't recall people crying bad sportsmanship over it. If you're going to hate a player, fine, bring it out into the open, I have no quarrel against that but stop trying to make your attacks sound like they're legitimate especially when so many people on the LR are against you. I feel the same way every time a player refuses to leave in a clearly lost situation. MKP is just the most consistent offender.
Then it is strange you have a Slayers tag. Since Boxer was famous for trying till the end and his protege is Fantasy...
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On November 20 2012 21:50 FakeDeath wrote:
I think Leenock is the zerg king of comebacks.
After watching his games against MVP/MMA at Providence and versus HerO/Squirtle in GSL, versus Life/DRG/Bomber in GSTL MLG.
Leenock always seem to find a way to facilitate comebacks.
But he knows when to GG when the game is clearly over.
I respect MKP but sometimes he need to know when to GG. 200 supply to 30 supply is just..........
I understand his frustration but he isn't the only player that is losing games.
Well, I think it's been proven that as long as you have infestors, there's always a good chance you're gonna win...
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On November 20 2012 21:50 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 20 2012 21:44 Biane wrote:On November 20 2012 21:40 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:39 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:36 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 20 2012 21:34 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:34 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 20 2012 21:33 Venomsflame wrote:
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That was the last game... You could have uhm... Stopped watching? He does this ALL THE DAMN TIME. It's getting really...REALLY old. Yes, how dare he try his utmost and get sad and desperate when he really wants to win. It's poor sportsmanship. I thought the SC2 community was all about sportsmanship, guess not! How is it poor sportsmanship. Are you saying that in a soccer game, a team should just forfeit when they're down 3-0 and there's 20 minutes left? SHould they just stop playing? Where the hell are you taking this logic from? Having one cc,down half the supply is equal to being down 3-0 with 20 mins left in a football game?I don't think so. There are plenty of examples football and basketball where there is still time on the clock and players just choose to not play it out because the obviously lost. You're talking about MarineKing, known for being one of few that can make so much out of so little. Nothing is every over as long as these pros are still trying. The analogy still stands. In football and basketball giving up before the timer runs out is bad sportsmanship, is it not? If I recall, there was one game where it was MVP vs Leenock (think it was the Jjajki vs Leenock finals season?) and MVP was so clearly dead on Dual sight but never gave up and looked so incredibly strong despite having nothing (3 marine attack at 40 mins or something if i recall?). Granted he probably wouldn't have win in that situation but I don't recall people crying bad sportsmanship over it. If you're going to hate a player, fine, bring it out into the open, I have no quarrel against that but stop trying to make your attacks sound like they're legitimate especially when so many people on the LR are against you. I feel the same way every time a player refuses to leave in a clearly lost situation. MKP is just the most consistent offender. Then it is strange you have a Slayers tag. Since Boxer was famous for trying till the end and his protege is Fantasy...
I didn't follow Brood War
inb4 "well then your opinion doesn't matter"
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Hey it's been a while since an LR thread went to shit this fast after the games were over. Good job everyone :D
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On November 20 2012 21:48 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote:
No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom.
Yea I mean, it's like Man Utd is the best team in the world, and everyone knows that, but people just like to argue against it for whatever reason 
Bwahahaha
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On November 20 2012 21:50 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:48 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote:
No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom. Pretty much this. It's one of the few ways us sports fans can have conversations that feel like they actually matter.
Without this rabid zeal for the game, one way or the other, sports just wouldn't be as fun/crazy/intense/violent
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I think Ryung will have a good chance against Leenock, rather than MKP though. I feel that Ryung's patient positional play (much like Mvp, as someone pointed out) will fare better against Leenock than MKP's reckless play. GOGO terran hope!
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On November 20 2012 21:52 Weirdkid wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:48 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote:
No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom. Yea I mean, it's like Man Utd is the best team in the world, and everyone knows that, but people just like to argue against it for whatever reason Bwahahaha
Starting another argument huh?
I hope the debt collectors knock soon :p
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On November 20 2012 21:52 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:50 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 20 2012 21:48 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote:
No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom. Pretty much this. It's one of the few ways us sports fans can have conversations that feel like they actually matter. Without this rabid zeal for the game, one way or the other, sports just wouldn't be as fun/crazy/intense/violent
Yup.
Anyway, I'm really pulling for Ryung. Got a good feeling this is his season.
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Ryung outplayed MKP so much, it was a real pleasure to watch. And although I agree that MKP gg timing is BM, personally I think it might be benefical for some opposing players. I personally enjoy it when during laddering I know that the win is in the bag and the opponent is tilted so much that he tries to float the barracks or do pathetic base trades, or tries to fight with a handful of units with me maxed out. I feel It gives you a sense of superiority, and maybe it is the same for some pro gamers.
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On November 20 2012 21:53 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:52 Weirdkid wrote:On November 20 2012 21:48 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote:
No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom. Yea I mean, it's like Man Utd is the best team in the world, and everyone knows that, but people just like to argue against it for whatever reason Bwahahaha Starting another argument huh? I hope the debt collectors knock soon :p
Haha they'll be fine  Lotsa debts but also lotsa income to pay off the debts in due time
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On November 20 2012 21:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:44 Biane wrote:On November 20 2012 21:40 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:39 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:36 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 20 2012 21:34 KristofferAG wrote:On November 20 2012 21:34 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On November 20 2012 21:33 Venomsflame wrote:On November 20 2012 21:32 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I am really sick of watching Marineking not leaving games that are so clearly fucking lost. It's incredibly BM and really stupid to watch. I wish he would get disciplined over it or something. That was the last game... You could have uhm... Stopped watching? He does this ALL THE DAMN TIME. It's getting really...REALLY old. Yes, how dare he try his utmost and get sad and desperate when he really wants to win. It's poor sportsmanship. I thought the SC2 community was all about sportsmanship, guess not! How is it poor sportsmanship. Are you saying that in a soccer game, a team should just forfeit when they're down 3-0 and there's 20 minutes left? SHould they just stop playing? Where the hell are you taking this logic from? Having one cc,down half the supply is equal to being down 3-0 with 20 mins left in a football game?I don't think so. There are plenty of examples football and basketball where there is still time on the clock and players just choose to not play it out because the obviously lost. You're talking about MarineKing, known for being one of few that can make so much out of so little. Nothing is every over as long as these pros are still trying. The analogy still stands. In football and basketball giving up before the timer runs out is bad sportsmanship, is it not? If I recall, there was one game where it was MVP vs Leenock (think it was the Jjajki vs Leenock finals season?) and MVP was so clearly dead on Dual sight but never gave up and looked so incredibly strong despite having nothing (3 marine attack at 40 mins or something if i recall?). Granted he probably wouldn't have win in that situation but I don't recall people crying bad sportsmanship over it. If you're going to hate a player, fine, bring it out into the open, I have no quarrel against that but stop trying to make your attacks sound like they're legitimate especially when so many people on the LR are against you. I feel the same way every time a player refuses to leave in a clearly lost situation. MKP is just the most consistent offender.
I agree that MKP does this more often than other players but this does no go any where beyond personal opinion and perception. If this really was "incredibly BM and really stupid to watch" then tomorrow we'll see GOMTV penalizing MKP for poor sportsmanship or some other reason they can come up with. If they don't then taking back some of the rather blatant comments about "SC2 community and sportsmanship" would be something you might want to consider.
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Incredibly composed play from Ryung in game 3 and 4. With good preperations I think he has a really good chance in the ro4! Grats to Ryung!
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On November 20 2012 21:57 Weirdkid wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:53 lichter wrote:On November 20 2012 21:52 Weirdkid wrote:On November 20 2012 21:48 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote:
No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom. Yea I mean, it's like Man Utd is the best team in the world, and everyone knows that, but people just like to argue against it for whatever reason Bwahahaha Starting another argument huh? I hope the debt collectors knock soon :p Haha they'll be fine Lotsa debts but also lotsa income to pay off the debts in due time
Didn't ManU just lose Norwich?
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On November 20 2012 21:59 trwkling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:57 Weirdkid wrote:On November 20 2012 21:53 lichter wrote:On November 20 2012 21:52 Weirdkid wrote:On November 20 2012 21:48 TheKefka wrote:On November 20 2012 21:44 Elurie wrote:
No one is going to change the other's minds with all these back and forth yeah-huh's and nuh-uh's. What's the point of these fans and anti-fans attacks? Have you never argued sports with someone who was a fan of something and you were not lol? There is no point it just keeps things interesting and the zeal of both sides fuels the fandom. Yea I mean, it's like Man Utd is the best team in the world, and everyone knows that, but people just like to argue against it for whatever reason Bwahahaha Starting another argument huh? I hope the debt collectors knock soon :p Haha they'll be fine Lotsa debts but also lotsa income to pay off the debts in due time Didn't ManU just lose Norwich?
Gotta keep the title race exciting
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i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf
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On November 20 2012 21:51 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2012 21:50 FakeDeath wrote:
I think Leenock is the zerg king of comebacks.
After watching his games against MVP/MMA at Providence and versus HerO/Squirtle in GSL, versus Life/DRG/Bomber in GSTL MLG.
Leenock always seem to find a way to facilitate comebacks.
But he knows when to GG when the game is clearly over.
I respect MKP but sometimes he need to know when to GG. 200 supply to 30 supply is just..........
I understand his frustration but he isn't the only player that is losing games. Well, I think it's been proven that as long as you have infestors, there's always a good chance you're gonna win...
Leenock often makes comebacks through burrow play. mainly roaches. Nice generalization of all zerg players when Leenock plays way differently and doesnt go mass infestors often at all.
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