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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 13:09:23
November 20 2012 13:06 GMT
#2001
On November 20 2012 21:57 Biane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 21:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On November 20 2012 21:44 Biane wrote:
On November 20 2012 21:40 KristofferAG wrote:
On November 20 2012 21:39 TheKefka wrote:
On November 20 2012 21:36 KristofferAG wrote:
On November 20 2012 21:35 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On November 20 2012 21:34 KristofferAG wrote:
On November 20 2012 21:34 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On November 20 2012 21:33 Venomsflame wrote:
[quote]

That was the last game... You could have uhm... Stopped watching?


He does this ALL THE DAMN TIME. It's getting really...REALLY old.

Yes, how dare he try his utmost and get sad and desperate when he really wants to win.


It's poor sportsmanship. I thought the SC2 community was all about sportsmanship, guess not!

How is it poor sportsmanship. Are you saying that in a soccer game, a team should just forfeit when they're down 3-0 and there's 20 minutes left? SHould they just stop playing?

Where the hell are you taking this logic from?

Having one cc,down half the supply is equal to being down 3-0 with 20 mins left in a football game?I don't think so.
There are plenty of examples football and basketball where there is still time on the clock and players just choose to not play it out because the obviously lost.

You're talking about MarineKing, known for being one of few that can make so much out of so little. Nothing is every over as long as these pros are still trying.

The analogy still stands. In football and basketball giving up before the timer runs out is bad sportsmanship, is it not?


If I recall, there was one game where it was MVP vs Leenock (think it was the Jjajki vs Leenock finals season?) and MVP was so clearly dead on Dual sight but never gave up and looked so incredibly strong despite having nothing (3 marine attack at 40 mins or something if i recall?). Granted he probably wouldn't have win in that situation but I don't recall people crying bad sportsmanship over it. If you're going to hate a player, fine, bring it out into the open, I have no quarrel against that but stop trying to make your attacks sound like they're legitimate especially when so many people on the LR are against you.

I feel the same way every time a player refuses to leave in a clearly lost situation. MKP is just the most consistent offender.


I agree that MKP does this more often than other players but this does no go any where beyond personal opinion and perception. If this really was "incredibly BM and really stupid to watch" then tomorrow we'll see GOMTV penalizing MKP for poor sportsmanship or some other reason they can come up with. If they don't then taking back some of the rather blatant comments about "SC2 community and sportsmanship" would be something you might want to consider.


Nah

Though maybe I should have clarified that the community picks and chooses when it cares about sportsmanship. Example: Crank/Naniwa "incident" recently when there have been many similar circumstances that no one gave a #&@^ about.
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Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
November 20 2012 13:10 GMT
#2002
Sad day for Prime
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
November 20 2012 13:12 GMT
#2003
On November 20 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf


Thanks for your effort and dedication, opterown. Data caps suck. (Well, the Australian ones anyways.) Maybe someday (National broadband thing?) you'll be able to get rid of them.

MKP. Next season. Keep trying, you'll get there. You're still a champion to all your fans.

*sigh* I guess now I'll have to be fully on board the Hyun train. And the semis/finals are going to be at an IPL event, sooo... IPL HYUN FIGHTING!

Poor MKP...
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 20 2012 13:15 GMT
#2004
On November 20 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf


I can only do after lunch (Korea time) games. Late afternoon games I need to update using my phone lol so only if no one else can

So consider me back up of the back up
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 20 2012 13:16 GMT
#2005
On November 20 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf

Sure hope you left some of it to do other miscellaneous stuff!! Thanks for the LR threads!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 20 2012 13:21 GMT
#2006
ah, when i get capped, i still have internet, it's just too slow to watch (multiple) streams live and update them. i can still make OPs and stuff, but yeah no live results like i do with GSL/GSTL. i'm sure the community can and will cover these fine! all OPs are already premade actually haha

i will be back for IPL/GSL/GSLWC!! :D hope i can get over today's results by then lol
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 20 2012 13:23 GMT
#2007
On November 20 2012 22:15 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf


I can only do after lunch (Korea time) games. Late afternoon games I need to update using my phone lol so only if no one else can

So consider me back up of the back up


No IM players left in GSL, but I wonder what would happen if you LRed an IM player playing, lol. They'd probably drop dead in the booth, or retire the day after. :D
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 20 2012 13:24 GMT
#2008
On November 20 2012 22:23 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 22:15 lichter wrote:
On November 20 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf


I can only do after lunch (Korea time) games. Late afternoon games I need to update using my phone lol so only if no one else can

So consider me back up of the back up


No IM players left in GSL, but I wonder what would happen if you LRed an IM player playing, lol. They'd probably drop dead in the booth, or retire the day after. :D

lol, last season when i made the RO8 LR when MKP and leenock played, they both lost 3-1 too T_T

maybe it's the opterown ro8 favourites 1-3 curse... lolol
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Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 20 2012 13:26 GMT
#2009
On November 20 2012 22:24 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 22:23 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 20 2012 22:15 lichter wrote:
On November 20 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf


I can only do after lunch (Korea time) games. Late afternoon games I need to update using my phone lol so only if no one else can

So consider me back up of the back up


No IM players left in GSL, but I wonder what would happen if you LRed an IM player playing, lol. They'd probably drop dead in the booth, or retire the day after. :D

lol, last season when i made the RO8 LR when MKP and leenock played, they both lost 3-1 too T_T

maybe it's the opterown ro8 favourites 1-3 curse... lolol

So not being able to do the LR for tomorrow's games is a good thing Go Leenock!!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 20 2012 13:27 GMT
#2010
On November 20 2012 22:23 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 22:15 lichter wrote:
On November 20 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf


I can only do after lunch (Korea time) games. Late afternoon games I need to update using my phone lol so only if no one else can

So consider me back up of the back up


No IM players left in GSL, but I wonder what would happen if you LRed an IM player playing, lol. They'd probably drop dead in the booth, or retire the day after. :D


I was OP for LGIM vs MVP and we all know what happened there T_T
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TheRedeemer
Profile Joined August 2012
United States24 Posts
November 20 2012 13:33 GMT
#2011
Not surprised the best tvter won.
"They call me the Redeemer"
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 20 2012 13:44 GMT
#2012
I liked the gg timing in the last game and I was slightly mad at Tastosis for repeating how dead he is. Yes, we can see it. Even if this was the first SC2 ever you watched, you probably understand that he is dead and also you can probably acknowledge something after you are told it twice, no need to repeat it five times...

The way he fought until the bitter end and then danced the marines, it was just so cool - MKP is one of the few players that are really emotional (not just awkward or trying to be interesting) and I think it really makes it look like something is happening, instead of gging at a random time. This was not your random Ro32 1st match, this was the bloody Ro8 before the bloody VEGAS finals!

All an all, I was a little disapointed in both series todat. They both took off in a very interesting way, but at the end, it seemed to me that both losing players tilted so much. Creator not only completely botched the all-in in the last game but he also did some very poor decisions in the carrier-phase of the superlong game, when he not only did not have enough preoduction structures, but he also failed to abuse the immobility of BLs fully, threw away units without effect (yes, he was supposed to throw them away, but he could have done something with them) and also microed very poorly in the actual engagement, where he just refused the spread the units out and got fungaled to death. And MKP? Not only he lost so much to two marines, but he hjas shown too much indecisivnes in many situation. Man, I love when he plays like he plays and it works, all these infinitely cute actions that Artosis never believes that they will do any good ... but when it doesn't work it is so, so painful to watch.

Anyway, there were some pretty good games today, definitiely glad to have watched.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 20 2012 14:12 GMT
#2013
On November 20 2012 22:27 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 22:23 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 20 2012 22:15 lichter wrote:
On November 20 2012 22:02 opterown wrote:
i'm not making any more gsl/gstl LRs for the month since i'm capped and can't update OP live, glhf


I can only do after lunch (Korea time) games. Late afternoon games I need to update using my phone lol so only if no one else can

So consider me back up of the back up


No IM players left in GSL, but I wonder what would happen if you LRed an IM player playing, lol. They'd probably drop dead in the booth, or retire the day after. :D


I was OP for LGIM vs MVP and we all know what happened there T_T


Ahh. T_T
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2012 14:30 GMT
#2014
lol. we should penalize players for leaving the game too early and too late. They should have a tab of team liquid open so they can read when they should leave
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MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
November 20 2012 14:37 GMT
#2015
On November 20 2012 22:44 opisska wrote:
I liked the gg timing in the last game and I was slightly mad at Tastosis for repeating how dead he is. Yes, we can see it. Even if this was the first SC2 ever you watched, you probably understand that he is dead and also you can probably acknowledge something after you are told it twice, no need to repeat it five times...

The way he fought until the bitter end and then danced the marines, it was just so cool - MKP is one of the few players that are really emotional (not just awkward or trying to be interesting) and I think it really makes it look like something is happening, instead of gging at a random time. This was not your random Ro32 1st match, this was the bloody Ro8 before the bloody VEGAS finals!

All an all, I was a little disapointed in both series todat. They both took off in a very interesting way, but at the end, it seemed to me that both losing players tilted so much. Creator not only completely botched the all-in in the last game but he also did some very poor decisions in the carrier-phase of the superlong game, when he not only did not have enough preoduction structures, but he also failed to abuse the immobility of BLs fully, threw away units without effect (yes, he was supposed to throw them away, but he could have done something with them) and also microed very poorly in the actual engagement, where he just refused the spread the units out and got fungaled to death. And MKP? Not only he lost so much to two marines, but he hjas shown too much indecisivnes in many situation. Man, I love when he plays like he plays and it works, all these infinitely cute actions that Artosis never believes that they will do any good ... but when it doesn't work it is so, so painful to watch.

Anyway, there were some pretty good games today, definitiely glad to have watched.

This pretty much sums up my feelings about a lot of things. Very well said.
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 20 2012 14:41 GMT
#2016
wow Ryung! so many upsets this code s
:)
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 20 2012 14:51 GMT
#2017
On November 20 2012 23:41 synapse wrote:
wow Ryung! so many upsets this code s


MKP might be a bigger name and better overall than Ryung, but I've said so many times that this matchup favors Ryung. It was not an upset at all and the games really showed why
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ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
November 20 2012 14:55 GMT
#2018
On November 20 2012 23:41 synapse wrote:
wow Ryung! so many upsets this code s

Just like GSL November. Expect Bogus to win it all vs Leenock
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2012 14:59 GMT
#2019
On November 20 2012 23:55 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 23:41 synapse wrote:
wow Ryung! so many upsets this code s

Just like GSL November. Expect Bogus to win it all vs Leenock

Hopefully Bogus got a lot better than their first meeting, then. I'd like to see Leenock take this season
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energized
Profile Joined April 2011
Croatia117 Posts
November 20 2012 14:59 GMT
#2020
On November 20 2012 23:41 synapse wrote:
wow Ryung! so many upsets this code s

If you watched his games it's not upset at all. He's really good now days and definitely has a chance for a title. He's quickly becoming my favorite player to watch when he's on top of his game, although it will be tough against I'm guessing Leenock in the semis unless Snipers upsets tomorrow. Lots of people don't like TvT's but I'm still hoping Bogus-Ryung finals
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