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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 10:44 GMT
#281
you guys can see the venue stream live here:
http://s.163.com/12/1115/18/8GCDLG4900314D0E_2.html (at the bottom)
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VanSCPurge
Profile Joined November 2012
United States169 Posts
November 16 2012 10:46 GMT
#282
idra is still good, but i say even taking a game off these 3 players in his group is an upset, it may happen, sure, but it still is an upset for him to not go 0-4, mainly because stephano and roro have insanely good ZvZ, and idra is weak in zvp, per usual.



Morefalse information. Stephano's ZvZ is ok. And RorO's is pretty damn good I'll give you that. But it's like you didn't really read what I said. ZvZ is IdrA's strongest matchup. By far. His ZvZ is easily better than Stephano's. And I like Stephano a lot. He will struggle against HerO, but I don't see him getting completely swept in this group.
"Once you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." -S. Holmes
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 16 2012 10:47 GMT
#283
On November 16 2012 19:44 opterown wrote:
you guys can see the venue stream live here:
http://s.163.com/12/1115/18/8GCDLG4900314D0E_2.html (at the bottom)

0.0 the place is ginormous!
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 10:49 GMT
#284
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RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
November 16 2012 10:51 GMT
#285
On November 16 2012 19:46 VanSCPurge wrote:
Show nested quote +
idra is still good, but i say even taking a game off these 3 players in his group is an upset, it may happen, sure, but it still is an upset for him to not go 0-4, mainly because stephano and roro have insanely good ZvZ, and idra is weak in zvp, per usual.



Morefalse information. Stephano's ZvZ is ok. And RorO's is pretty damn good I'll give you that. But it's like you didn't really read what I said. ZvZ is IdrA's strongest matchup. By far. His ZvZ is easily better than Stephano's. And I like Stephano a lot. He will struggle against HerO, but I don't see him getting completely swept in this group.

IdrA has solid ZvZ, but I really disagree with you saying that it is his best match-up and "easily" better than Stephano's. I guess we'll see.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 16 2012 11:12 GMT
#286
Will be pretty awesome to see that full.
Gonlyrush22
Profile Joined September 2011
56 Posts
November 16 2012 11:14 GMT
#287
Group predictions:

A: PartinG, Fenix
B: Vortix, Suppy
C: Sen, HuK
D: Rain, Babyknight
E: RorO, HerO
F: Curious, MajOr
G: Lucifron, LoWeLy
H: Creator, Scarlett

Placings:

1st Rain
2nd LucifroN
3rd Creator
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 16 2012 11:31 GMT
#288
On November 16 2012 19:17 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2012 14:18 opterown wrote:
Poll: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

Stephano (528)
 
24%

Rain (515)
 
23%

IdrA (256)
 
11%

Creator (156)
 
7%

Other (150)
 
7%

Scarlett (138)
 
6%

Nerchio (117)
 
5%

HerO (96)
 
4%

A Terran (77)
 
3%

Grubby (76)
 
3%

PartinG (63)
 
3%

Sen (62)
 
3%

2234 total votes

Your vote: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

(Vote): Rain
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Scarlett
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): A Terran
(Vote): Other


aaaandd stephano overtakes rain for the first time


Joke poll.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 16 2012 11:40 GMT
#289
So, apparently some players, at least Grubby, got food poisoning... will they be able to play?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 11:45:19
November 16 2012 11:45 GMT
#290
On November 16 2012 20:40 Ketch wrote:
So, apparently some players, at least Grubby, got food poisoning... will they be able to play?

No way they won't play unless they're near death, they'll probably just play a lot worse, like SuperNoVa at IEM Sao Paulo.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 11:52 GMT
#291
On November 16 2012 20:45 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 20:40 Ketch wrote:
So, apparently some players, at least Grubby, got food poisoning... will they be able to play?

No way they won't play unless they're near death, they'll probably just play a lot worse, like SuperNoVa at IEM Sao Paulo.

DRG still got 3rd at providence with food poisoning too
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 11:56:50
November 16 2012 11:56 GMT
#292
On November 16 2012 20:52 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 20:45 StarVe wrote:
On November 16 2012 20:40 Ketch wrote:
So, apparently some players, at least Grubby, got food poisoning... will they be able to play?

No way they won't play unless they're near death, they'll probably just play a lot worse, like SuperNoVa at IEM Sao Paulo.

DRG still got 3rd at providence with food poisoning too

So let's all hope that the remaining players with food poisining are Korean because we have evidence they can still place highly when they're handicapped.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 11:58 GMT
#293
On November 16 2012 20:56 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 20:52 opterown wrote:
On November 16 2012 20:45 StarVe wrote:
On November 16 2012 20:40 Ketch wrote:
So, apparently some players, at least Grubby, got food poisoning... will they be able to play?

No way they won't play unless they're near death, they'll probably just play a lot worse, like SuperNoVa at IEM Sao Paulo.

DRG still got 3rd at providence with food poisoning too

So let's all hope that the remaining players with food poisining are Korean because we have evidence they can still place highly when they're handicapped.

plus we'll see more foreigner upsets = more viewership = saving esports!
must be some huge blizzard conspiracy. funded by mrbitter's bank account.
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Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
November 16 2012 11:59 GMT
#294
So, the food poisoning source:


Manuel Schenkhuizen @followgrubby
I just saw the most cheerful bad weather report from over Asia ever on CNN from my sick bed. Attitude really matters!
4h

Manuel Schenkhuizen @followgrubby
Just heard 3 others have food poisoning, too. It's found to be the sashimi at this very upscale hotel restaurant we are all staying at.
8h

Manuel Schenkhuizen @followgrubby
Oh noes I got food poisoning and can't keep down food& fluids. TT feel so sick. Going to hospital soon..
8h


So who are the three others... hope Grubby recovers quickly... T_T
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
November 16 2012 12:11 GMT
#295
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Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 12:24:20
November 16 2012 12:17 GMT
#296
guys, would it be reasonable to put a larger stack on SEn against Killer?

Iam thinking thats one of those 99% games, besides Rain - Mafia (but Rain has 1.056 lol)

always thought SEn is a legit ZvZ sniper?

also how is his current shape
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CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
November 16 2012 12:21 GMT
#297
On November 16 2012 21:17 Inzan1ty wrote:
guys, would it be reasonable to put a larger stack on SEn against Killer?

Iam thinking thats one of those 99% games, besides Rain - Mafia (but Rain has 1.056 lol)

always thought SEn is a legit ZvZ sniper?




He beat Stephano and Dimaga at NASL, I don't know from other recent ZvZ performances but he is certainly not bad at it.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 16 2012 12:24 GMT
#298
On November 16 2012 21:17 Inzan1ty wrote:
guys, would it be reasonable to put a larger stack on SEn against Killer?

Iam thinking thats one of those 99% games, besides Rain - Mafia (but Rain has 1.056 lol)

always thought SEn is a legit ZvZ sniper?




Sen is a good ZvZ player and Killer is not that good at it and also weaker in general.

Sen should be favoured by quite a lot, but I wouldn't say it's a 99% game. I'm never calling a 99% game again since I saw a BO3 with Machine beating viOlet in EG Master's Cup once. -.-
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 12:29:33
November 16 2012 12:24 GMT
#299
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2BatNetWCh/1/Lines.aspx

taking a look at the odds right now... the ones i consider "worth betting on" would be:
vibe > vortix @3.12 (vibe is pretty good)
idra > roro @4.28 (no way idra is 4.3:1 even with the anti-idra hype, roro is good but it's also zvz)
major > hero[join] @3.89 (this is a definite possibility, major is decent and hero fell against thebest 2-0 in code A prelims lol)
moonglade > scarlett @2.75 (he's pretty good)

nerchio vs. creator is kinda borderline, 2.39 is not that bad imo for nerchio

for the handicap bids,
parting 2-0 socke @2.04 is not bad
rain 2-0 mafia @1.333 not bad either lolol

other than that, not much stand out?
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JoeHannes
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany207 Posts
November 16 2012 12:27 GMT
#300
Awwww man, why does it have to be in Shangai? Worst possible time for me :-(
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