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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 12:28:04
November 16 2012 12:27 GMT
#301
Haha, poor Levin with those odds. Mafia isn't given too much of a chance either.
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
November 16 2012 12:29 GMT
#302
On November 16 2012 18:44 Gladiator333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 18:22 ch4iNz wrote:
i guess this bwc will have the lowest viewercount ever, given the timeschedule.


I'm curious why they couldn't get a better time for us Europeans. Will be watching the VODS though!


I think the low terran-count is a bigger problem than the time. BWC really had the potential to be the biggest sc2 tourney of all time, but with this race-distribution and the worst possible times for US/EU it can only fail. 3am to ~12am? Thats exactly the time most people sleep.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 12:30 GMT
#303
On November 16 2012 21:29 Slackzftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 18:44 Gladiator333 wrote:
On November 16 2012 18:22 ch4iNz wrote:
i guess this bwc will have the lowest viewercount ever, given the timeschedule.


I'm curious why they couldn't get a better time for us Europeans. Will be watching the VODS though!


I think the low terran-count is a bigger problem than the time. BWC really had the potential to be the biggest sc2 tourney of all time, but with this race-distribution and the worst possible times for US/EU it can only fail. 3am to ~12am? Thats exactly the time most people sleep.

you'll wake up in time for the semis+finals though, most likely. that's the time when most tune in anyway?
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azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
November 16 2012 12:32 GMT
#304
Really sucks that its at 3 am in europe. So its like 4 when games will start, no way i can watch these live -(
Germany
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
November 16 2012 12:37 GMT
#305
On November 16 2012 21:24 opterown wrote:
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2BatNetWCh/1/Lines.aspx

taking a look at the odds right now... the ones i consider "worth betting on" would be:
vibe > vortix @3.12 (vibe is pretty good)
idra > roro @4.28 (no way idra is 4.3:1 even with the anti-idra hype, roro is good but it's also zvz)
major > hero[join] @3.89 (this is a definite possibility, major is decent and hero fell against thebest 2-0 in code A prelims lol)
moonglade > scarlett @2.75 (he's pretty good)

nerchio vs. creator is kinda borderline, 2.39 is not that bad imo for nerchio

for the handicap bids,
parting 2-0 socke @2.04 is not bad
rain 2-0 mafia @1.333 not bad either lolol

other than that, not much stand out?


good choices. place your bets. I have to get an account soon .

Would add
Illusion > Fenix @1.515 (his brother posted here that he was injured and could hardly train)
Lucifron 2-0 Levin @1.526 (Lucifron should be some levels above his opponent)

I also like Stephanos > Hero, and Babyknight 2-0 State.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 12:37 GMT
#306
On November 16 2012 21:32 azzih wrote:
Really sucks that its at 3 am in europe. So its like 4 when games will start, no way i can watch these live -(

sure you can, wake up a bit early it's the weekend after all! 7am breakfast, you won't miss many of the games~
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 12:40:10
November 16 2012 12:39 GMT
#307
On November 16 2012 21:37 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 21:24 opterown wrote:
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2BatNetWCh/1/Lines.aspx

taking a look at the odds right now... the ones i consider "worth betting on" would be:
vibe > vortix @3.12 (vibe is pretty good)
idra > roro @4.28 (no way idra is 4.3:1 even with the anti-idra hype, roro is good but it's also zvz)
major > hero[join] @3.89 (this is a definite possibility, major is decent and hero fell against thebest 2-0 in code A prelims lol)
moonglade > scarlett @2.75 (he's pretty good)

nerchio vs. creator is kinda borderline, 2.39 is not that bad imo for nerchio

for the handicap bids,
parting 2-0 socke @2.04 is not bad
rain 2-0 mafia @1.333 not bad either lolol

other than that, not much stand out?


good choices. place your bets. I have to get an account soon .

Would add
Illusion > Fenix @1.515 (his brother posted here that he was injured and could hardly train)
Lucifron 2-0 Levin @1.526 (Lucifron should be some levels above his opponent)


I also like Stephanos > Hero, and Babyknight 2-0 State.

agree with the bolded but not so sure about the italicised ones, state vs. babyknight is pvp, and hero is a korean, you can never really count him out and i don't think 1.813 is quite worth it

too bad i don't have an account :p i have made a resolution never to gamble haha
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TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
November 16 2012 12:40 GMT
#308
Shit times, sick players, casters getting mugged and a ghetto venue with cheap plastic chairs and no vibe.

Yeah i might gonna watch the finals and some matches, other then that... not going to give up my weekend for this.

opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#309
[image loading]

lol sort of want to put this as the banner now :p
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mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 16 2012 12:50 GMT
#310
Wow just checked the liquipedia page. So much money on the line this tournament. 100k first place and 40k second....o.o
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
November 16 2012 12:53 GMT
#311
On November 16 2012 21:24 opterown wrote:
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2BatNetWCh/1/Lines.aspx

taking a look at the odds right now... the ones i consider "worth betting on" would be:
vibe > vortix @3.12 (vibe is pretty good)
idra > roro @4.28 (no way idra is 4.3:1 even with the anti-idra hype, roro is good but it's also zvz)
major > hero[join] @3.89 (this is a definite possibility, major is decent and hero fell against thebest 2-0 in code A prelims lol)
moonglade > scarlett @2.75 (he's pretty good)

nerchio vs. creator is kinda borderline, 2.39 is not that bad imo for nerchio

for the handicap bids,
parting 2-0 socke @2.04 is not bad
rain 2-0 mafia @1.333 not bad either lolol

other than that, not much stand out?


I am flirting with SEn 2-0 Killer @ 2.470

but my finger is kind of "shaking", push the trigger or not lol

ah fuck it, lets do this.
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 16 2012 12:54 GMT
#312
I wonder if they're using ladder edition ladder maps for this. As far as I know we still don't know what maps they're using haha
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 12:55 GMT
#313
On November 16 2012 21:54 Weirdkid wrote:
I wonder if they're using ladder edition ladder maps for this. As far as I know we still don't know what maps they're using haha

WCS Cloud Kingdom LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Daybreak LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Ohana LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Antiga Shipyard Neutral depots at main base ramps. Cross Spawns only. No high yield minerals.
WCS Entombed Valley Neutral depots at main base ramps. No horizontal spawns.
WCS Shakuras Plateau Neutral depots at main base ramps. No vertical spawns.
WCS Tal’darim Altar LE
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 16 2012 12:56 GMT
#314
On November 16 2012 21:54 Weirdkid wrote:
I wonder if they're using ladder edition ladder maps for this. As far as I know we still don't know what maps they're using haha


I would assume the same ones as the nationals and continentals?
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
November 16 2012 12:57 GMT
#315
So shakuras and tal'darim get vetoed every time?
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 16 2012 12:58 GMT
#316
On November 16 2012 21:55 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 21:54 Weirdkid wrote:
I wonder if they're using ladder edition ladder maps for this. As far as I know we still don't know what maps they're using haha

WCS Cloud Kingdom LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Daybreak LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Ohana LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Antiga Shipyard Neutral depots at main base ramps. Cross Spawns only. No high yield minerals.
WCS Entombed Valley Neutral depots at main base ramps. No horizontal spawns.
WCS Shakuras Plateau Neutral depots at main base ramps. No vertical spawns.
WCS Tal’darim Altar LE

Ooohh cool haha. I was worried for a while that it might turn into the other competition that Blizzard organised previously where people were blasting them for the map choices
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 16 2012 13:00 GMT
#317
On November 16 2012 21:57 Sjokola wrote:
So shakuras and tal'darim get vetoed every time?

pretty much, but the rest of the map pool is alright, if a bit dated
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Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 13:02:21
November 16 2012 13:02 GMT
#318
On November 16 2012 21:58 Weirdkid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 21:55 opterown wrote:
On November 16 2012 21:54 Weirdkid wrote:
I wonder if they're using ladder edition ladder maps for this. As far as I know we still don't know what maps they're using haha

WCS Cloud Kingdom LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Daybreak LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Ohana LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Antiga Shipyard Neutral depots at main base ramps. Cross Spawns only. No high yield minerals.
WCS Entombed Valley Neutral depots at main base ramps. No horizontal spawns.
WCS Shakuras Plateau Neutral depots at main base ramps. No vertical spawns.
WCS Tal’darim Altar LE

Ooohh cool haha. I was worried for a while that it might turn into the other competition that Blizzard organised previously where people were blasting them for the map choices

Antiga, entombed, tal darim, shakuras

hehe, yeah i still am
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 13:03:29
November 16 2012 13:03 GMT
#319
On November 16 2012 21:55 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 21:54 Weirdkid wrote:
I wonder if they're using ladder edition ladder maps for this. As far as I know we still don't know what maps they're using haha

WCS Cloud Kingdom LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Daybreak LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Ohana LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Antiga Shipyard Neutral depots at main base ramps. Cross Spawns only. No high yield minerals.
WCS Entombed Valley Neutral depots at main base ramps. No horizontal spawns.
WCS Shakuras Plateau Neutral depots at main base ramps. No vertical spawns.
WCS Tal’darim Altar LE

If the grand finals will be a Bo7 that goes the full distance and ends with a PvP on Tal'darim Altar I will laugh so hard.
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 13:07:27
November 16 2012 13:05 GMT
#320
On November 16 2012 22:02 Sea_Food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 21:58 Weirdkid wrote:
On November 16 2012 21:55 opterown wrote:
On November 16 2012 21:54 Weirdkid wrote:
I wonder if they're using ladder edition ladder maps for this. As far as I know we still don't know what maps they're using haha

WCS Cloud Kingdom LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Daybreak LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Ohana LE Neutral depots at main base ramps
WCS Antiga Shipyard Neutral depots at main base ramps. Cross Spawns only. No high yield minerals.
WCS Entombed Valley Neutral depots at main base ramps. No horizontal spawns.
WCS Shakuras Plateau Neutral depots at main base ramps. No vertical spawns.
WCS Tal’darim Altar LE

Ooohh cool haha. I was worried for a while that it might turn into the other competition that Blizzard organised previously where people were blasting them for the map choices

Antiga, entombed, tal darim, shakuras

hehe, yeah i still am

At least there's nothing like close-position metalopolis or lack of neutral depots
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
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