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emis
Profile Joined November 2011
Estonia409 Posts
November 15 2012 15:36 GMT
#201
On November 15 2012 20:46 Trashman420 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 20:33 L3g3nd_ wrote:
sure stephano never played in the GSL, but you arent gonna name someone who never played in the NFL as the greatest football player of all time, same thing applies here

I think you're talking about hand-egg, not football.

This. Fuckin Americans, man.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 16:25:06
November 15 2012 16:07 GMT
#202
Hi everyone!

Lately I have gotten a bit of (reasonable) criticism that my probabilities are out of touch with reality. This is because the TLPD rating system has certain deficiencies.

For this post, I have employed the SC2Charts system instead, in a sort of experimental run.

The problem with this system is that I don't know how it translates into an Elo-like model, and the SC2Charts website doesn't have all the necessary information. Thus, I've had to take some numbers out of thin air.

As such, I'd like it very much if you could tell me how these numbers look to you, subjectively. Specifically, are the high probabilities too high and the low ones too low, or should they be more extreme than they are?

Personally I feel these numbers reflect reality much better than what I'd get if I were to use the TLPD ratings.

+ Show Spoiler [Group A] +
Group A

      Parting: 88.21%
      Fenix: 48.66%
      Socke: 34.27%
      Illusion: 28.86%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Illusion: 37.85% 33.29% 19.65% 9.21%
Fenix: 22.32% 29.02% 30.97% 17.69%
Parting: 4.45% 7.35% 26.96% 61.25%
Socke: 35.39% 30.34% 22.42% 11.85%

Probability of each pair advancing

Illusi Fenix Partin Socke
Illusion: 1.11% 6.41% 1.69%
Fenix: 1.27% 13.03% 3.39%
Parting: 16.72% 27.18% 17.34%
Socke: 1.66% 2.68% 7.51%

+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +
Group B

      Vortix: 77.53%
      Suppy: 58.72%
      CommItment: 34.56%
      ViBE: 29.20%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Vortix: 9.11% 13.36% 30.46% 47.07%
ViBE: 39.83% 30.97% 17.34% 11.86%
CommItment: 33.44% 32.00% 20.77% 13.78%
Suppy: 17.62% 23.66% 31.43% 27.28%

Probability of each pair advancing

Vortix ViBE CommIt Suppy
Vortix: 8.82% 14.26% 23.99%
ViBE: 5.19% 2.50% 4.17%
CommItment: 7.84% 2.67% 3.28%
Suppy: 17.42% 5.85% 4.02%

+ Show Spoiler [Group C] +
Group C

      Sen: 75.73%
      HuK: 48.98%
      Grubby: 41.22%
      dKilleR: 34.06%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Sen: 10.25% 14.02% 29.70% 46.03%
dKilleR: 36.44% 29.50% 19.55% 14.52%
HuK: 23.99% 27.03% 27.10% 21.88%
Grubby: 29.33% 29.45% 23.66% 17.56%

Probability of each pair advancing

Sen dKille HuK Grubby
Sen: 10.24% 19.39% 16.40%
dKilleR: 6.45% 4.37% 3.70%
HuK: 13.10% 5.23% 3.55%
Grubby: 10.15% 4.07% 3.34%

+ Show Spoiler [Group D] +
Group D

      By.Rain: 93.41%
      BabyKnight: 60.46%
      State: 27.54%
      MaFia: 18.59%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
State: 34.06% 38.40% 20.78% 6.76%
BabyKnight: 13.88% 25.66% 41.69% 18.77%
MaFia: 49.80% 31.61% 13.57% 5.02%
By.Rain: 2.27% 4.33% 23.95% 69.46%

Probability of each pair advancing

State BabyKn MaFia By.Rai
State: 1.06% 0.62% 5.08%
BabyKnight: 1.38% 1.82% 15.57%
MaFia: 0.56% 1.16% 3.30%
By.Rain: 18.84% 39.48% 11.14%

+ Show Spoiler [Group E] +
Group E

      Stephano: 72.45%
      HerO: 60.57%
      RorO: 45.43%
      IdrA: 21.55%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Stephano: 10.87% 16.69% 31.63% 40.82%
HerO: 16.78% 22.64% 31.12% 29.46%
IdrA: 47.88% 30.57% 12.95% 8.60%
RorO: 24.47% 30.10% 24.30% 21.13%

Probability of each pair advancing

Stepha HerO IdrA RorO
Stephano: 19.15% 7.28% 14.39%
HerO: 16.00% 4.53% 8.93%
IdrA: 4.30% 3.30% 0.99%
RorO: 11.33% 8.66% 1.14%

+ Show Spoiler [Group F] +
Group F

      Curious: 82.63%
      TITAN: 55.76%
      MajOr: 38.09%
      herO: 23.52%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Curious: 6.58% 10.79% 30.28% 52.35%
TITAN: 20.19% 24.05% 32.20% 23.56%
MajOr: 29.06% 32.85% 22.62% 15.46%
herO: 44.17% 32.31% 14.90% 8.63%

Probability of each pair advancing

Curiou TITAN MajOr herO
Curious: 24.49% 16.93% 10.93%
TITAN: 15.29% 5.03% 3.25%
MajOr: 9.75% 5.00% 0.72%
herO: 5.25% 2.71% 0.67%

+ Show Spoiler [Group G] +
Group G

      LucifroN: 88.70%
      LoWeLy: 73.12%
      Insur: 30.54%
      Levin: 7.64%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Insur: 24.45% 45.01% 21.57% 8.97%
LoWeLy: 6.88% 20.00% 42.92% 30.20%
Levin: 65.51% 26.86% 5.27% 2.37%
LucifroN: 3.16% 8.13% 30.25% 58.46%

Probability of each pair advancing

Insur LoWeLy Levin Lucifr
Insur: 2.94% 0.45% 5.58%
LoWeLy: 4.82% 1.82% 23.56%
Levin: 0.38% 0.88% 1.11%
LucifroN: 16.37% 39.10% 3.00%

+ Show Spoiler [Group H] +
Group H

      Creator: 74.36%
      Scarlett: 52.40%
      Nerchio: 50.57%
      mOOnGLaDe: 22.67%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
mOOnGLaDe: 46.85% 30.47% 13.71% 8.96%
Scarlett: 20.78% 26.83% 27.51% 24.89%
Nerchio: 22.36% 27.07% 27.75% 22.82%
Creator: 10.01% 15.63% 31.03% 43.33%

Probability of each pair advancing

mOOnGL Scarle Nerchi Creato
mOOnGLaDe: 1.39% 2.84% 4.73%
Scarlett: 1.69% 8.66% 14.54%
Nerchio: 3.49% 7.57% 11.76%
Creator: 8.53% 18.55% 16.25%


The most likely bracket would be:

Parting – Scarlett
Vortix – Lowely
Sen – Titan
Rain – (Liquid) Hero
Stephano – Babyknight
Curious – Huk
Lucifron – Suppy
Creator – Fenix

Parting – Vortix
Sen – Rain
Stephano – Curious
Lucifron – Creator

Parting – Rain
Stephano – Creator

Rain – Creator
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Trashman420
Profile Joined September 2012
232 Posts
November 15 2012 16:20 GMT
#203
Thanks for putting in the effort TheBB! Numbers seem pretty good, I wouldn't say they're too high or low, although I do disagree with the some of the rankings (such as Fenix being 2nd in his group and Killer being 4th in his). In any case, I agree with you that this seems better than basing it on TLPD ELO.
Foreigners fighting
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
November 15 2012 16:30 GMT
#204
Curious: 82.63%
TITAN: 55.76%
MajOr: 38.09%
herO: 23.52%


Korean ranked below two non koreans is only major disagreement i have with these probabilities.

Gogo Grubby.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 15 2012 16:37 GMT
#205
Fenix too high, probably relying on results way too far back. Maybe Roro too low, certainly herO too low because there's not enough data, I guess.
Huggusten
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden50 Posts
November 15 2012 16:46 GMT
#206
This is HerO[jOin]'s chance to prove himself, he's gonna take this!
Fenix
Profile Joined April 2007
Peru112 Posts
November 15 2012 16:47 GMT
#207
Hello, I am brother of fenix.

Fenix ​​broke his hand a while ago and stopped playing for a long time and now has tendinitis, only play 2-3 hours every two days.

Follow Fenix : https://www.facebook.com/Fenix.sc2
IMFenix http://www.facebook.com/Fenix.sc2
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
November 15 2012 16:55 GMT
#208
I wish Sen can make a deep run in WCS!
And please Terran players show ome good games and advance!
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
November 15 2012 17:58 GMT
#209
On November 16 2012 00:36 emis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 20:46 Trashman420 wrote:
On November 15 2012 20:33 L3g3nd_ wrote:
sure stephano never played in the GSL, but you arent gonna name someone who never played in the NFL as the greatest football player of all time, same thing applies here

I think you're talking about hand-egg, not football.

This. Fuckin Americans, man.



But the sport is called Football. Why be a smug asshole about it? You realize this repetitive joke about American football being hand egg stopped being funny a long time ago, right?
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 15 2012 18:12 GMT
#210
So Mr.Bitter got robbed, not a good start.

Rod Breslau ‏@Slasher

In less positive news, just spoke to @MrBitterTV, he has been robbed for over $2,000 from Chinese gangsters on way back from a BWC party.

Ben was taken to an unknown location and forced to withdraw money from ATM. He is at hotel now and doing okay, no access to Twitter (China).


Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 15 2012 18:15 GMT
#211
On November 15 2012 17:18 Hiea wrote:
Stephano 0-0 Creator
Stephano 8-4 HerO
Stephano 0-0 herO
Stephano 0-0 Rain
Stephano 2-0 PartinG
Stephano 2-1 Curious
Stephano 0-0 RorO


Obviously Stephano has this in the bag.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
November 15 2012 18:21 GMT
#212
On November 16 2012 03:12 StarVe wrote:
So Mr.Bitter got robbed, not a good start.

Show nested quote +
Rod Breslau ‏@Slasher

In less positive news, just spoke to @MrBitterTV, he has been robbed for over $2,000 from Chinese gangsters on way back from a BWC party.

Ben was taken to an unknown location and forced to withdraw money from ATM. He is at hotel now and doing okay, no access to Twitter (China).


https://twitter.com/Slasher/status/269137275064037376

Ouch.
I didn't even know that you can get $2,000 from ATM.
Hope he will be ok with casting after that.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 15 2012 18:23 GMT
#213
On November 16 2012 01:07 TheBB wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Hi everyone!

Lately I have gotten a bit of (reasonable) criticism that my probabilities are out of touch with reality. This is because the TLPD rating system has certain deficiencies.

For this post, I have employed the SC2Charts system instead, in a sort of experimental run.

The problem with this system is that I don't know how it translates into an Elo-like model, and the SC2Charts website doesn't have all the necessary information. Thus, I've had to take some numbers out of thin air.

As such, I'd like it very much if you could tell me how these numbers look to you, subjectively. Specifically, are the high probabilities too high and the low ones too low, or should they be more extreme than they are?

Personally I feel these numbers reflect reality much better than what I'd get if I were to use the TLPD ratings.

+ Show Spoiler [Group A] +
Group A

      Parting: 88.21%
      Fenix: 48.66%
      Socke: 34.27%
      Illusion: 28.86%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Illusion: 37.85% 33.29% 19.65% 9.21%
Fenix: 22.32% 29.02% 30.97% 17.69%
Parting: 4.45% 7.35% 26.96% 61.25%
Socke: 35.39% 30.34% 22.42% 11.85%

Probability of each pair advancing

Illusi Fenix Partin Socke
Illusion: 1.11% 6.41% 1.69%
Fenix: 1.27% 13.03% 3.39%
Parting: 16.72% 27.18% 17.34%
Socke: 1.66% 2.68% 7.51%

+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +
Group B

      Vortix: 77.53%
      Suppy: 58.72%
      CommItment: 34.56%
      ViBE: 29.20%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Vortix: 9.11% 13.36% 30.46% 47.07%
ViBE: 39.83% 30.97% 17.34% 11.86%
CommItment: 33.44% 32.00% 20.77% 13.78%
Suppy: 17.62% 23.66% 31.43% 27.28%

Probability of each pair advancing

Vortix ViBE CommIt Suppy
Vortix: 8.82% 14.26% 23.99%
ViBE: 5.19% 2.50% 4.17%
CommItment: 7.84% 2.67% 3.28%
Suppy: 17.42% 5.85% 4.02%

+ Show Spoiler [Group C] +
Group C

      Sen: 75.73%
      HuK: 48.98%
      Grubby: 41.22%
      dKilleR: 34.06%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Sen: 10.25% 14.02% 29.70% 46.03%
dKilleR: 36.44% 29.50% 19.55% 14.52%
HuK: 23.99% 27.03% 27.10% 21.88%
Grubby: 29.33% 29.45% 23.66% 17.56%

Probability of each pair advancing

Sen dKille HuK Grubby
Sen: 10.24% 19.39% 16.40%
dKilleR: 6.45% 4.37% 3.70%
HuK: 13.10% 5.23% 3.55%
Grubby: 10.15% 4.07% 3.34%

+ Show Spoiler [Group D] +
Group D

      By.Rain: 93.41%
      BabyKnight: 60.46%
      State: 27.54%
      MaFia: 18.59%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
State: 34.06% 38.40% 20.78% 6.76%
BabyKnight: 13.88% 25.66% 41.69% 18.77%
MaFia: 49.80% 31.61% 13.57% 5.02%
By.Rain: 2.27% 4.33% 23.95% 69.46%

Probability of each pair advancing

State BabyKn MaFia By.Rai
State: 1.06% 0.62% 5.08%
BabyKnight: 1.38% 1.82% 15.57%
MaFia: 0.56% 1.16% 3.30%
By.Rain: 18.84% 39.48% 11.14%

+ Show Spoiler [Group E] +
Group E

      Stephano: 72.45%
      HerO: 60.57%
      RorO: 45.43%
      IdrA: 21.55%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Stephano: 10.87% 16.69% 31.63% 40.82%
HerO: 16.78% 22.64% 31.12% 29.46%
IdrA: 47.88% 30.57% 12.95% 8.60%
RorO: 24.47% 30.10% 24.30% 21.13%

Probability of each pair advancing

Stepha HerO IdrA RorO
Stephano: 19.15% 7.28% 14.39%
HerO: 16.00% 4.53% 8.93%
IdrA: 4.30% 3.30% 0.99%
RorO: 11.33% 8.66% 1.14%

+ Show Spoiler [Group F] +
Group F

      Curious: 82.63%
      TITAN: 55.76%
      MajOr: 38.09%
      herO: 23.52%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Curious: 6.58% 10.79% 30.28% 52.35%
TITAN: 20.19% 24.05% 32.20% 23.56%
MajOr: 29.06% 32.85% 22.62% 15.46%
herO: 44.17% 32.31% 14.90% 8.63%

Probability of each pair advancing

Curiou TITAN MajOr herO
Curious: 24.49% 16.93% 10.93%
TITAN: 15.29% 5.03% 3.25%
MajOr: 9.75% 5.00% 0.72%
herO: 5.25% 2.71% 0.67%

+ Show Spoiler [Group G] +
Group G

      LucifroN: 88.70%
      LoWeLy: 73.12%
      Insur: 30.54%
      Levin: 7.64%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Insur: 24.45% 45.01% 21.57% 8.97%
LoWeLy: 6.88% 20.00% 42.92% 30.20%
Levin: 65.51% 26.86% 5.27% 2.37%
LucifroN: 3.16% 8.13% 30.25% 58.46%

Probability of each pair advancing

Insur LoWeLy Levin Lucifr
Insur: 2.94% 0.45% 5.58%
LoWeLy: 4.82% 1.82% 23.56%
Levin: 0.38% 0.88% 1.11%
LucifroN: 16.37% 39.10% 3.00%

+ Show Spoiler [Group H] +
Group H

      Creator: 74.36%
      Scarlett: 52.40%
      Nerchio: 50.57%
      mOOnGLaDe: 22.67%

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
mOOnGLaDe: 46.85% 30.47% 13.71% 8.96%
Scarlett: 20.78% 26.83% 27.51% 24.89%
Nerchio: 22.36% 27.07% 27.75% 22.82%
Creator: 10.01% 15.63% 31.03% 43.33%

Probability of each pair advancing

mOOnGL Scarle Nerchi Creato
mOOnGLaDe: 1.39% 2.84% 4.73%
Scarlett: 1.69% 8.66% 14.54%
Nerchio: 3.49% 7.57% 11.76%
Creator: 8.53% 18.55% 16.25%


The most likely bracket would be:

Parting – Scarlett
Vortix – Lowely
Sen – Titan
Rain – (Liquid) Hero
Stephano – Babyknight
Curious – Huk
Lucifron – Suppy
Creator – Fenix

Parting – Vortix
Sen – Rain
Stephano – Curious
Lucifron – Creator

Parting – Rain
Stephano – Creator

Rain – Creator

they seem A LOT of better. my only complaint is that herO[join] is pretty low, but that's not really something wrong because he hasn't played many games yet.

i also like their rating much better than the ELO ranking. so i hope you will stick to it.
Grimmac
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom71 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 18:27:41
November 15 2012 18:25 GMT
#214
can someone explain what the hell 10GMT+8 means ? really...
i know GMT = Greenwich = London
but 10 GMT + 8, means that it will be 18h? it will be 10+8 in china? what?
Trashman420
Profile Joined September 2012
232 Posts
November 15 2012 18:28 GMT
#215
On November 16 2012 02:58 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 00:36 emis wrote:
On November 15 2012 20:46 Trashman420 wrote:
On November 15 2012 20:33 L3g3nd_ wrote:
sure stephano never played in the GSL, but you arent gonna name someone who never played in the NFL as the greatest football player of all time, same thing applies here

I think you're talking about hand-egg, not football.

This. Fuckin Americans, man.



But the sport is called Football. Why be a smug asshole about it? You realize this repetitive joke about American football being hand egg stopped being funny a long time ago, right?

It's a pretty stale joke, yes. Everytime you forget the "American" in front of your "football" I will keep reminding you, though. No homo.
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 18:36:06
November 15 2012 18:31 GMT
#216
Thanks a lot for the feedback guys!

On November 16 2012 03:25 Grimmac wrote:
can someone explain what the hell 10GMT+8 means ? really...
i know GMT = Greenwich = London
but 10 GMT + 8, means that it will be 18h? it will be 10+8 in china? what?

GMT+8 is the timezone that's 8 hours ahead of GMT.

So 10:00 in GMT+8 is 02:00 in GMT.

Basically, whenever it's 00:00 in GMT, it's N:00 in GMT+N.
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
November 15 2012 18:33 GMT
#217
Start at 3 AM, end at 8 AM. Sounds like a wonderful day.
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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-15 18:53:51
November 15 2012 18:34 GMT
#218
On November 15 2012 16:18 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 16:15 Talack wrote:
Rain got a ridiculously easy road to the finals. I don't think there is anyone near his calibre in this entire tournament.

IMO Rain has shown a bit of weakness in PvZ recently. I think a sufficiently skilled Zerg such as Curious, RorO or even Stephano has a decent shot at taking him out.


I thought Stephano had a chance against Rain , but then i saw that it's a Bo5 all the way till the finals which is a Bo7 . Rain trashed DRG in the OSL finals , and with so much money on the line he will come with guns blazing in this tournament . No way a foreigner wins this tournament even with no korean terrans and not the top of the top zergs also . Though Roro and Curious are probably in the top 10 zergs in the world .
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
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November 15 2012 18:37 GMT
#219
On November 16 2012 03:33 Beyonder wrote:
Start at 3 AM, end at 8 AM. Sounds like a wonderful day.

That's the time for us? ARGH. :D But i expected something like that, as it's in China.

Are the other days just like that? I don't want to miss everything but i'll certainly miss much, not wanting to torture myself. :D
!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
November 15 2012 18:41 GMT
#220
do they use that insta rewind kind of stream? time really really isnt nice for eu
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