On October 31 2012 22:32 Valkyrian wrote: Yeah more patchzergs winning when will blizzard patch fucking zerg.
It's that Queen buff that made Soulkey win am I right?
Yeah cause overlord speed didn't do anything in those games right gg other races cant hide anything so Zerg can A move the super deathball which requires 12 apm to victory.
I think it's a bit silly people are so upset about the existence of economical early pool openings. It's just a standard way the metagame can develop: protoss expands blindly, so you can try to catch him off-guard with a quick zergling attack. There's nothing wrong with it. Would you rather want the opposite, where you can go double hatchery and still survive proxy barracks attacks?
The game needs early game skirmishes, because otherwise every match-up will end up the same, with a rush to your super army and some sort of predetermined army clash that will over time always end up creating imbalance. And it's boring to watch too.
On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey!
might have something to do with 20 infestors and broodlords appearing in every single game
On October 31 2012 22:36 ujonecro wrote: I love how Hero went for one of the most OP builds in the game Partings "unbeatable" immortal sentry which is ridiculous as fuck but all hate goes towards soulkey, who got a seed and worked his ass to advance, if you protoss believe it or not. Hero still deserved to advance, not in this group though. Have a nice day.
that had nothing to do with the soulkey vs hero series, he lost when used the immortal sentry build because he never uses it and that was vs Curious.
On October 31 2012 22:31 Darkhoarse wrote: That was ridiculous. If a protoss proxy two gates he can never recover no matter what if it fails. If a zerg six pools he just transitions out without doing any damage...
That's not really a proper comparison. The reason proxy 2gates can't transition is because the player continues to pump minerals into zealots because his gates are proxy'd and will be useless if he stops. A zerg 6 pool transitions back to droning pretty quickly. A better comparison would be a zerg 6 pool vs a cannon rush. Both can transition into normal'ish games.
Don't you dare use logic here please! After doing exactly what a 6-pool should do, the Zerg should just gg out.
On October 31 2012 22:35 NightOfTheDead wrote: Well it wasnt ridiculous. Hero went for templars before robo, which is perfect for mass roaches. Soulkey made good decisions.
On October 31 2012 22:33 Shellshock1122 wrote: Lol when I first opened this thread I was on a page that was joking about the seeds this season being no better than foreigners xD I guess Soulkey's seed is closer to naniwa than the standard foreigner ones
As in he's made himself easy to dislike?
All he's really done is play zerg and beat a Liquid player in ZvP. The state of the match up can't really be his fault, can it? He played well against Maru, and I won't put his victory against HerO exclusively to balance, though it played it's role for sure.
hahaha yeh I was just trying to join the dots between the two... and based on today - thats all I found
I'm impartial to HerO and Soulkey, but I was not entertained - and I feel bad for HerO's tears especially after gaining a slight fondness after yesterdays GNN interview thing.
On October 31 2012 22:33 Hall0wed wrote: Fuck im just gonna go back to not watching zerg games. And gonna go watch a more exciting game, like Commander Keen IV.
go watch
Seen it =P
I prefer watching Cosmo play it ^_^
Speaking of Cosmo, wasn't that an Apogee game too? Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure?
On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey!
Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad.
Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol.
I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around.
On October 31 2012 22:39 Grumbels wrote: I think it's a bit silly people are so upset about the existence of economical early pool openings. It's just a standard way the metagame can develop: protoss expands blindly, so you can try to catch him off-guard with a quick zergling attack. There's nothing wrong with it. Would you rather want the opposite, where you can go double hatchery and still survive proxy barracks attacks?
The game needs early game skirmishes, because otherwise every match-up will end up the same, with a rush to your super army and some sort of predetermined army clash that will over time always end up creating imbalance. And it's boring to watch too.
Holy cow that happened not too long ago :D Such a blunder by the terran.
On October 31 2012 22:39 Grumbels wrote: I think it's a bit silly people are so upset about the existence of economical early pool openings. It's just a standard way the metagame can develop: protoss expands blindly, so you can try to catch him off-guard with a quick zergling attack. There's nothing wrong with it. Would you rather want the opposite, where you can go double hatchery and still survive proxy barracks attacks?
The game needs early game skirmishes, because otherwise every match-up will end up the same, with a rush to your super army and some sort of predetermined army clash that will over time always end up creating imbalance. And it's boring to watch too.
Is it fair to call it a build order win then? 6pool>forge fast expand I've never seen a good zerg lose when they 6 pool and transition out of it.
On October 31 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: get to infestor broodlord corruptor, no chance of winning. gg patchzergs
More classic misuse of the term patchzerg.
Tell me, when did they patch Infestors, Broodlords, or Corruptors again?
Let's be honest they're all patchzergs, they only win because of the reaper nerf you see guys zergs are 100% reliant on patches. Protoss all rely on patches as well I mean they nerfed 1 supply roaches then suddenly protoss was fine they all relied on that patch so many fucking patch players.