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On October 31 2012 22:39 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:38 ZerglingTwins wrote: Hero is good, but he's not Rain-like good. So he fell, no surprise.
soulkey doesn't appear quite life-good either ;p
Agreed, very disappointed with Soulkey's play today. I think coaches will have some words with him after he went back to the team house.
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On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo.
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On October 31 2012 22:40 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: get to infestor broodlord corruptor, no chance of winning. gg patchzergs More classic misuse of the term patchzerg. Tell me, when did they patch Infestors, Broodlords, or Corruptors again?
The way protoss used to beat that was with a variety of all ins which are so much harder to pull cause overlord speed so yeah patch did affect this matchup your probably some shitter who has no idea about the game.
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On October 31 2012 22:42 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo. Let's make everything into TvT save ESPORTS today.
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On October 31 2012 22:42 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:40 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: get to infestor broodlord corruptor, no chance of winning. gg patchzergs More classic misuse of the term patchzerg. Tell me, when did they patch Infestors, Broodlords, or Corruptors again? Let's be honest they're all patchzergs, they only win because of the reaper nerf you see guys zergs are 100% reliant on patches. Protoss all rely on patches as well I mean they nerfed 1 supply roaches then suddenly protoss was fine they all relied on that patch so many fucking patch players.
Not sure if I should applaud or criticize x.x
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welp, tomorrow is going to be an elephatapede it seems, if rain falls out it will be a bigger upset than taeja falling out. part of me is hoping rain falls out to see how the reaction on LR threads will be lol.......... but predicting rain 4-0, hyun 4-2
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On October 31 2012 22:42 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo.
I like playing ZvT...ZvP is immortal-sentry or vortex..take your pick
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On October 31 2012 22:43 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:42 Fusilero wrote:On October 31 2012 22:40 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: get to infestor broodlord corruptor, no chance of winning. gg patchzergs More classic misuse of the term patchzerg. Tell me, when did they patch Infestors, Broodlords, or Corruptors again? Let's be honest they're all patchzergs, they only win because of the reaper nerf you see guys zergs are 100% reliant on patches. Protoss all rely on patches as well I mean they nerfed 1 supply roaches then suddenly protoss was fine they all relied on that patch so many fucking patch players. Not sure if I should applaud or criticize x.x Patchzerg is such a retarded term I can't help but mock it whenever it is used.
On October 31 2012 22:43 X3GoldDot wrote: welp, tomorrow is going to be an elephatapede it seems, if rain falls out it will be a bigger upset than taeja falling out. part of me is hoping rain falls out to see how the reaction on LR threads will be lol.......... but predicting rain 4-0, hyun 4-2 Semi final curse too stronk for rain.
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Imo this is just Soulkey proving he's worthy of the seed. Not really expecting him to drop in Ro32. That was really close though.
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On October 31 2012 22:43 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:42 Zane wrote:On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo. Let's make everything into TvT save ESPORTS today. my predictions, they didn't work out T_T
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On October 31 2012 22:43 Valkyrian wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:40 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: get to infestor broodlord corruptor, no chance of winning. gg patchzergs More classic misuse of the term patchzerg. Tell me, when did they patch Infestors, Broodlords, or Corruptors again? The way protoss used to beat that was with a variety of all ins which are so much harder to pull cause overlord speed so yeah patch did affect this matchup your probably some shitter who has no idea about the game.
and you are some shitter (what) that registered on TL to balance whine
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On October 31 2012 22:35 habeck wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:33 InoyouS2 wrote:On October 31 2012 22:31 Darkhoarse wrote: That was ridiculous. If a protoss proxy two gates he can never recover no matter what if it fails. If a zerg six pools he just transitions out without doing any damage... Well, to be honest it screwed up HerO's build quite a bit, but yeah, the other two races have it sooooo tough against Zerg nowadays. well i dont think that 6pool failed, everything went quite good for SOULkey
That's the problem- a zerg can 6 pool, throw away all their lings without killing a single worker and still end up economically ahead.
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On October 31 2012 22:43 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:42 Zane wrote:On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo. Let's make everything into TvT save ESPORTS today.
God I hope not...I wouldn't make it through most games without falling asleep.
Rain to crush heads tomorrow. So naturally talented at SC2.
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On October 31 2012 22:42 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo. I'd say so, yes. Not by a lot, but there's at least a lot more variety in the match up. Lair-tech swarm style has become a lot more popular thanks to DRG/Life, and that's honestly the most entertaining thing to watch in SC2 for me.
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On October 31 2012 22:44 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:42 Zane wrote:On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo. I like playing ZvT...ZvP is immortal-sentry or vortex..take your pick
these days you don't even see vortex to be honest, mothership always get neuraled or zerg splits their army so it does nothing.
It's either carriers into die because they fungal your interceptors until you run out of money or immortal all in
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On October 31 2012 22:44 Lightspeaker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:43 Fusilero wrote:On October 31 2012 22:42 Zane wrote:On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo. Let's make everything into TvT save ESPORTS today. God I hope not...I wouldn't make it through most games without falling asleep. Good thing we got all this ZvP to keep us awake.
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On October 31 2012 22:43 Valkyrian wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:40 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: get to infestor broodlord corruptor, no chance of winning. gg patchzergs More classic misuse of the term patchzerg. Tell me, when did they patch Infestors, Broodlords, or Corruptors again? The way protoss used to beat that was with a variety of all ins which are so much harder to pull cause overlord speed so yeah patch did affect this matchup your probably some shitter who has no idea about the game.
The third game had little to do with the queen buff or the overlord speed buff yet people are still qqing about "patchzergs".
There are games of PvZ that are affected by the patch, some more than others, but that one wasn't one of them.
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On October 31 2012 22:44 X3GoldDot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:43 Valkyrian wrote:On October 31 2012 22:40 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 Fleuria wrote: get to infestor broodlord corruptor, no chance of winning. gg patchzergs More classic misuse of the term patchzerg. Tell me, when did they patch Infestors, Broodlords, or Corruptors again? The way protoss used to beat that was with a variety of all ins which are so much harder to pull cause overlord speed so yeah patch did affect this matchup your probably some shitter who has no idea about the game. and you are some shitter (what) that registered on TL to balance whine
Come at me shitter ill destory you.
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On October 31 2012 22:44 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:42 Zane wrote:On October 31 2012 22:40 LimitSEA wrote:On October 31 2012 22:36 andaylin wrote:On October 31 2012 22:35 dcemuser wrote:On October 31 2012 22:32 plasmidghost wrote: There is an unbelievable amount of balance whine tonight, like, some of the worst I've seen in over a year. Anyways, gogo Soulkey! Hero is very popular and on Liquid, so it isn't entirely unexpected, but yeah, this is pretty bad. Most people are just fed up with zerg imo. I mean, I think everyone is lol. I think it should be more ZvP than zerg on it's own. Or infestors. But I think ZvP is the real crux of the problem right now. Just a terrible match up all around. Is ZvT that much better right now? Not really imo. I like playing ZvT...ZvP is immortal-sentry or vortex..take your pick
I actually haven't seen a game winning vortex in GSL for quite some time. zergs have gotten really good at either neural, rush the MS with corrupters or just have a good enough spread that vortex doesn't do much.
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On October 31 2012 22:37 LimitSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:34 liberate71 wrote:On October 31 2012 22:33 Shellshock1122 wrote: Lol when I first opened this thread I was on a page that was joking about the seeds this season being no better than foreigners xD I guess Soulkey's seed is closer to naniwa than the standard foreigner ones As in he's made himself easy to dislike?  All he's really done is play zerg and beat a Liquid player in ZvP. The state of the match up can't really be his fault, can it?  He played well against Maru, and I won't put his victory against HerO exclusively to balance, though it played it's role for sure.
well people are not hating on soulkey. they whine about pvz.
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