• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:01
CEST 08:01
KST 15:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Rollback Netcode in Brood War435.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202621Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)78
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 [Old] StarCraft 3 Reportedly in Development StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War [ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror TL Sidebar missing streams Bot on ladder Repalyzer - replay analysis app for StarCraft: Rem
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Semifinal B [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9743 users

[Code S] RO32 Group C 2012 GSL Season 5 - Page 37

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 70 Next
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
October 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#721
Lets do this Soulkey.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 12:29:45
October 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#722
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...


To be fair, the amount of damage that drops can do is more dependent on the zerg than the terran... Terran can try multi drops but if zergs splits his army properly, not much the terran can do.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
October 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#723
Go Hero! TL fighting!
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#724
On October 31 2012 21:26 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:20 TheBB wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 AgentChaos wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:17 TheBB wrote:
Group C

      Curious: 100.000%
      HerO: 88.172%
      Neo.G_Soulkey: 11.828%
      Maru: 0.000%

jeezzz hero with 88% really?

Yeah... about 200 Elo points difference, best vs. worst matchup. :/

Actually, I should revise the matchup ratings.... Not sure if this system is too accurate.

vZ is not HerO's best matchup anymore.

On TLPD it is.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 31 2012 12:29 GMT
#725
I don't think Soulkey is a great name... It sounds like Sulky.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 31 2012 12:29 GMT
#726
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...

In the first game when Tastosis were still hyping Maru, he lost 5 marines to deny 2 creep tumors. Tastosis was going "what a great move" and I was thinking "that was so not worth it". In the same game, he lost two marine drops (medivac+8 rines) to kill an extractor each, in the first case it was not even mined from. He had overall just a pretty bad day today, making micro errors and bad decisions left and right. No need to get upset about TvZ today.

There are still Terrans to look out for that can make a deep run: Gumiho, MVP, MKP and Keen (yes Keen, he looks good lately).
Get off my lawn, young punks
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 31 2012 12:30 GMT
#727
On October 31 2012 21:27 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:25 Jehct wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:23 InoyouS2 wrote:
There is literally no other Terran I can think of to pin our hopes on now except Mvp.

Last time people thought like that Polt won a lot of money

It's like the SC2 legend of the fall (if my memory is right)

Calling MVP to go out in RO16 and Polt/baby (I <3 baby) to win the whole thing rofl


I agree Polt is good, but NOBODY was saying that, the Super tournament was almost entirely Terran dominated.

This is true, silly me ^^ Was more that MVP looked dominant prior and then got trounced while every other terran flew through. Mb the opposite will happen like last season
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Robje
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands1044 Posts
October 31 2012 12:31 GMT
#728
What's with the "sure" all the time by tasteless
Holy shit ziek leger
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
October 31 2012 12:31 GMT
#729
On October 31 2012 21:26 Beyonder wrote:
havent seen a good SC2 game in ages. This weekend better change that.. >_>


You missed yesterday?

The final game of the day was brilliant.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 12:32:57
October 31 2012 12:31 GMT
#730
On October 31 2012 21:28 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...


To be fair, the amount of damage that drops can do is more dependent on the zerg than the terran... Terran can try multi drops but if zergs splits his army properly, not much the terran can do.

This type of logic can be assesed to everything you do in the game. the point is you need tp create enough points of pressure that will give you enough return of investment even vs opponent who will react properly (but not extraordinary).

If your strategy depends only and only on your opponent screwing something then it becomes more of a dice roll kinda like 14cc.
Stork[gm]
ESFActioN
Profile Joined October 2011
United States15 Posts
October 31 2012 12:32 GMT
#731
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...


There is a reason there are hardly no terrans in upcoming tournaments... TvZ you have a VERY VERY small timing window to hit before blords are out. And with the threat of constent runbys and counter attacks it's extremely hard to effectively hit this window.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 31 2012 12:32 GMT
#732
On October 31 2012 21:29 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...

In the first game when Tastosis were still hyping Maru, he lost 5 marines to deny 2 creep tumors. Tastosis was going "what a great move" and I was thinking "that was so not worth it". In the same game, he lost two marine drops (medivac+8 rines) to kill an extractor each, in the first case it was not even mined from. He had overall just a pretty bad day today, making micro errors and bad decisions left and right. No need to get upset about TvZ today.

There are still Terrans to look out for that can make a deep run: Gumiho, MVP, MKP and Keen (yes Keen, he looks good lately).


MKP is cursed.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
October 31 2012 12:32 GMT
#733
Oh god if Hero loses with the immortal push a third time tonight I'll be so sad.
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2012 12:33 GMT
#734
On October 31 2012 21:32 eieio wrote:
Oh god if Hero loses with the immortal push a third time tonight I'll be so sad.

He doesn't have the soul going up against a player called soulkey he can't do it man.
Glorious SEA doto
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
October 31 2012 12:33 GMT
#735
I think you have to play terran these days to understand that Maru did a lot of good things in these games and it just didn't go his way in the end.
The problem is, that you are not allowed to even make small mistakes as terran in that matchup because the chances of a costefficient trade are very small without the zerg screwing up completely (hello roro!).
Both Soulkey and Curious played nearly flawless standard TvZ and that's actually insanely hard to crack!
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#736
On October 31 2012 21:30 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:27 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:25 Jehct wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:23 InoyouS2 wrote:
There is literally no other Terran I can think of to pin our hopes on now except Mvp.

Last time people thought like that Polt won a lot of money

It's like the SC2 legend of the fall (if my memory is right)

Calling MVP to go out in RO16 and Polt/baby (I <3 baby) to win the whole thing rofl


I agree Polt is good, but NOBODY was saying that, the Super tournament was almost entirely Terran dominated.

This is true, silly me ^^ Was more that MVP looked dominant prior and then got trounced while every other terran flew through. Mb the opposite will happen like last season


Yes, in fact the final eight players were a very unexpected outcome.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#737
On October 31 2012 21:31 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:28 vthree wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...


To be fair, the amount of damage that drops can do is more dependent on the zerg than the terran... Terran can try multi drops but if zergs splits his army properly, not much the terran can do.

This type of logic can be assesed to everything you do in the game. the point is you need tp create enough points of pressure that will give you enough return of investment even vs opponent who will react properly (but not extraordinary).


But in the current meta, terrans seems to 'need' to play aggressively and do damage. Granted, terrans have the most ways to be aggressive.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#738
On October 31 2012 21:34 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:30 Jehct wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:27 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:25 Jehct wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:23 InoyouS2 wrote:
There is literally no other Terran I can think of to pin our hopes on now except Mvp.

Last time people thought like that Polt won a lot of money

It's like the SC2 legend of the fall (if my memory is right)

Calling MVP to go out in RO16 and Polt/baby (I <3 baby) to win the whole thing rofl


I agree Polt is good, but NOBODY was saying that, the Super tournament was almost entirely Terran dominated.

This is true, silly me ^^ Was more that MVP looked dominant prior and then got trounced while every other terran flew through. Mb the opposite will happen like last season


Yes, in fact the final eight players were a very unexpected outcome.

THEBEST TOP 8 PLAYER IN KOREA.
Glorious SEA doto
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#739
On October 31 2012 21:33 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:32 eieio wrote:
Oh god if Hero loses with the immortal push a third time tonight I'll be so sad.

He doesn't have the soul going up against a player called soulkey he can't do it man.


LOL


this is the best justification not to do it. Soulkey holds the key to the immortal push!
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 12:34:56
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#740
Lunchtime! Hoping for Hero, but I wouldn't mind Soulkey to be honest. Just happy to have Curious. Byeeee
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 70 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 299
Mind 67
sorry 40
Bale 32
ZergMaN 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm185
League of Legends
JimRising 705
Other Games
summit1g8934
Coldzera 725
WinterStarcraft659
C9.Mang0296
Sick131
febbydoto14
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick740
BasetradeTV203
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2153
League of Legends
• Rush1335
Other Games
• Shiphtur521
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
3h 59m
Rex vs INexorable
GgMaChine vs HeRoMaRinE
Reynor vs herO
Online Event
5h 59m
AI Arena Tournament
10h 59m
BSL: Ladder Tournament
12h 59m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
Patches Events
1d 8h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 12h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 12h
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
5 days
Online Event
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Rush vs Soulkey
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
HCC Season 3
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.