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Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
October 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#721
Lets do this Soulkey.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 12:29:45
October 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#722
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...


To be fair, the amount of damage that drops can do is more dependent on the zerg than the terran... Terran can try multi drops but if zergs splits his army properly, not much the terran can do.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
October 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#723
Go Hero! TL fighting!
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
October 31 2012 12:28 GMT
#724
On October 31 2012 21:26 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:20 TheBB wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 AgentChaos wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:17 TheBB wrote:
Group C

      Curious: 100.000%
      HerO: 88.172%
      Neo.G_Soulkey: 11.828%
      Maru: 0.000%

jeezzz hero with 88% really?

Yeah... about 200 Elo points difference, best vs. worst matchup. :/

Actually, I should revise the matchup ratings.... Not sure if this system is too accurate.

vZ is not HerO's best matchup anymore.

On TLPD it is.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
October 31 2012 12:29 GMT
#725
I don't think Soulkey is a great name... It sounds like Sulky.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 31 2012 12:29 GMT
#726
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...

In the first game when Tastosis were still hyping Maru, he lost 5 marines to deny 2 creep tumors. Tastosis was going "what a great move" and I was thinking "that was so not worth it". In the same game, he lost two marine drops (medivac+8 rines) to kill an extractor each, in the first case it was not even mined from. He had overall just a pretty bad day today, making micro errors and bad decisions left and right. No need to get upset about TvZ today.

There are still Terrans to look out for that can make a deep run: Gumiho, MVP, MKP and Keen (yes Keen, he looks good lately).
Get off my lawn, young punks
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 31 2012 12:30 GMT
#727
On October 31 2012 21:27 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:25 Jehct wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:23 InoyouS2 wrote:
There is literally no other Terran I can think of to pin our hopes on now except Mvp.

Last time people thought like that Polt won a lot of money

It's like the SC2 legend of the fall (if my memory is right)

Calling MVP to go out in RO16 and Polt/baby (I <3 baby) to win the whole thing rofl


I agree Polt is good, but NOBODY was saying that, the Super tournament was almost entirely Terran dominated.

This is true, silly me ^^ Was more that MVP looked dominant prior and then got trounced while every other terran flew through. Mb the opposite will happen like last season
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Robje
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands1044 Posts
October 31 2012 12:31 GMT
#728
What's with the "sure" all the time by tasteless
Holy shit ziek leger
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
October 31 2012 12:31 GMT
#729
On October 31 2012 21:26 Beyonder wrote:
havent seen a good SC2 game in ages. This weekend better change that.. >_>


You missed yesterday?

The final game of the day was brilliant.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 12:32:57
October 31 2012 12:31 GMT
#730
On October 31 2012 21:28 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...


To be fair, the amount of damage that drops can do is more dependent on the zerg than the terran... Terran can try multi drops but if zergs splits his army properly, not much the terran can do.

This type of logic can be assesed to everything you do in the game. the point is you need tp create enough points of pressure that will give you enough return of investment even vs opponent who will react properly (but not extraordinary).

If your strategy depends only and only on your opponent screwing something then it becomes more of a dice roll kinda like 14cc.
Stork[gm]
ESFActioN
Profile Joined October 2011
United States15 Posts
October 31 2012 12:32 GMT
#731
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...


There is a reason there are hardly no terrans in upcoming tournaments... TvZ you have a VERY VERY small timing window to hit before blords are out. And with the threat of constent runbys and counter attacks it's extremely hard to effectively hit this window.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 31 2012 12:32 GMT
#732
On October 31 2012 21:29 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...

In the first game when Tastosis were still hyping Maru, he lost 5 marines to deny 2 creep tumors. Tastosis was going "what a great move" and I was thinking "that was so not worth it". In the same game, he lost two marine drops (medivac+8 rines) to kill an extractor each, in the first case it was not even mined from. He had overall just a pretty bad day today, making micro errors and bad decisions left and right. No need to get upset about TvZ today.

There are still Terrans to look out for that can make a deep run: Gumiho, MVP, MKP and Keen (yes Keen, he looks good lately).


MKP is cursed.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
October 31 2012 12:32 GMT
#733
Oh god if Hero loses with the immortal push a third time tonight I'll be so sad.
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TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2012 12:33 GMT
#734
On October 31 2012 21:32 eieio wrote:
Oh god if Hero loses with the immortal push a third time tonight I'll be so sad.

He doesn't have the soul going up against a player called soulkey he can't do it man.
Glorious SEA doto
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
October 31 2012 12:33 GMT
#735
I think you have to play terran these days to understand that Maru did a lot of good things in these games and it just didn't go his way in the end.
The problem is, that you are not allowed to even make small mistakes as terran in that matchup because the chances of a costefficient trade are very small without the zerg screwing up completely (hello roro!).
Both Soulkey and Curious played nearly flawless standard TvZ and that's actually insanely hard to crack!
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#736
On October 31 2012 21:30 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:27 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:25 Jehct wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:23 InoyouS2 wrote:
There is literally no other Terran I can think of to pin our hopes on now except Mvp.

Last time people thought like that Polt won a lot of money

It's like the SC2 legend of the fall (if my memory is right)

Calling MVP to go out in RO16 and Polt/baby (I <3 baby) to win the whole thing rofl


I agree Polt is good, but NOBODY was saying that, the Super tournament was almost entirely Terran dominated.

This is true, silly me ^^ Was more that MVP looked dominant prior and then got trounced while every other terran flew through. Mb the opposite will happen like last season


Yes, in fact the final eight players were a very unexpected outcome.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#737
On October 31 2012 21:31 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:28 vthree wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:24 sitromit wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:19 Fjodorov wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:18 ESFActioN wrote:
This game symbols what is wrong with the game, and why people don't watch this game anymore...Maru played so well, but that late game comp by zerg is just ridiculously strong...this game is in a bad, bad state atm...


What bothers me is that tasteless just looks at these games like a first timer and thinks Maru is playing horribly.


Because making Banshees and losing them with 0 kills is great play am I right? Doing a ton of drops, not killing a significant amount of drones or any tech or hatcheries, losing your 4th to a ling runby. Getting your push delayed enough that it fails to hit before its designed timing, thus gets countered, so you're scrambling to get out units to combat an army you are now unprepared for is great play. Yeah, Maru played great this series, but lost because the game is imbalanced, certainly not the other way around...

LOL...


To be fair, the amount of damage that drops can do is more dependent on the zerg than the terran... Terran can try multi drops but if zergs splits his army properly, not much the terran can do.

This type of logic can be assesed to everything you do in the game. the point is you need tp create enough points of pressure that will give you enough return of investment even vs opponent who will react properly (but not extraordinary).


But in the current meta, terrans seems to 'need' to play aggressively and do damage. Granted, terrans have the most ways to be aggressive.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#738
On October 31 2012 21:34 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:30 Jehct wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:27 InoyouS2 wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:25 Jehct wrote:
On October 31 2012 21:23 InoyouS2 wrote:
There is literally no other Terran I can think of to pin our hopes on now except Mvp.

Last time people thought like that Polt won a lot of money

It's like the SC2 legend of the fall (if my memory is right)

Calling MVP to go out in RO16 and Polt/baby (I <3 baby) to win the whole thing rofl


I agree Polt is good, but NOBODY was saying that, the Super tournament was almost entirely Terran dominated.

This is true, silly me ^^ Was more that MVP looked dominant prior and then got trounced while every other terran flew through. Mb the opposite will happen like last season


Yes, in fact the final eight players were a very unexpected outcome.

THEBEST TOP 8 PLAYER IN KOREA.
Glorious SEA doto
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#739
On October 31 2012 21:33 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2012 21:32 eieio wrote:
Oh god if Hero loses with the immortal push a third time tonight I'll be so sad.

He doesn't have the soul going up against a player called soulkey he can't do it man.


LOL


this is the best justification not to do it. Soulkey holds the key to the immortal push!
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-31 12:34:56
October 31 2012 12:34 GMT
#740
Lunchtime! Hoping for Hero, but I wouldn't mind Soulkey to be honest. Just happy to have Curious. Byeeee
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
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