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On October 22 2012 01:35 MWY wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:34 Zheryn wrote:On October 22 2012 01:33 MWY wrote:On October 22 2012 01:32 CruelZeratul wrote: That MS was clearly to close, I don't get how someone like Mana who is pretty good at micro can let that happen. LOL. You need to get pretty close for a vortex. Vortex outranges neural. Cool. Vortexing one infestor wouldve won him that fight obviously.
Why would you vortex one infestor when you can just stand still and watch it instant-die from colossus or feedback it if you for some reason do not want to get colossus?
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On October 22 2012 01:35 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:34 Zheryn wrote:On October 22 2012 01:33 MWY wrote:On October 22 2012 01:32 CruelZeratul wrote: That MS was clearly to close, I don't get how someone like Mana who is pretty good at micro can let that happen. LOL. You need to get pretty close for a vortex. Vortex outranges neural. If you Vortex a single Infestor you might as well have got Neural'd because you just wasted a Vortex.
if it's one infestor extending in front of the army, you feedback it.
If it's a lot of infestors extending in front of the army, you storm them.
if the infestors are within the zerg army, vortex them.
it looked like mana had targetted a vortex further back, but the mothership got fungalled before it got there, and mana didn't retarget the vortex in range.
i still don't get how a 7 range spell with such a slow animation ever lands. just right click on it. it's even easier to deny with colossus, which he didn't have.
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Boooring... So much PvZ lately... only Grubby makes it interesting tbh.
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I don't get why here everybody is rightfully complaining about PvZ, but then in SaSe's thread most people are like LOL SASE SUCKS ZERG FINE.
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On October 22 2012 01:35 shizaep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:33 Fyzar wrote:On October 22 2012 01:32 elanobissen wrote: PvZ is so fucking boring to watch-.-
I'm terran Agree, I'm protoss  . It's the current metagame. Such a goddamn turtlefest.
Not just the metagame, whole match up is broken. Needs a fix but it won't get one, Blizzard won't release another WoL patch now. So this is it boys until HotS. Get used to BL/Infestor/Corruptor. We've got most likely yet another year of it.
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On October 22 2012 01:35 EtherealDeath wrote:Imbalance or not aside, pvz late game really is boring. Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:33 MWY wrote:On October 22 2012 01:32 CruelZeratul wrote: That MS was clearly to close, I don't get how someone like Mana who is pretty good at micro can let that happen. LOL. You need to get pretty close for a vortex. Also it may just be me, but vortex misfires for me like 20% of the time - like I'll cast it, and it'll move in to use it, but then it won't use it - 20% under the assumption the mothership was in the middle of decelerating when the command was ordered, and it is outside of its range.
If you could cast vortex while decelerating then neural wouldn't be as big an issue as it is with regards to being game ending.
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I am really starting to miss Terran .
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mana needs to do some 2base stupidness, cuz seemingly zergs are not dying in lategame anymore.
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On October 22 2012 00:47 Anonymous_Coward wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:43 choqman wrote: I Really think that the level of play is not that good (Comparing with top players...) I mean SOOOOOOO many micro mistakes... I watched yesterday the GSL final, and it was amazing... Today after watching the playoffs it felt like I was watching amateurs... I don't mean that the players are not good at all, but they are not as good as top players... (TLO (I Love you man!!!) still making some childish mistakes...) If you try to hold every tournament to the level of the GSL finals, you're going to always be disappointed.
Yeah, especially Nestea vs. IncA.
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i am a bias terran and i think pvz isn´t best match up. But at least that wasn´t the boring pvz i ever watched. it was, i would say a pretty intresting one. I like ohana a great map producing great games. problem i see though it´s that nothing will change in the next games. No other opening, no other strategie game will end in a big slug fest!
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On October 22 2012 01:37 CruelZeratul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:35 ZAiNs wrote:On October 22 2012 01:34 Zheryn wrote:On October 22 2012 01:33 MWY wrote:On October 22 2012 01:32 CruelZeratul wrote: That MS was clearly to close, I don't get how someone like Mana who is pretty good at micro can let that happen. LOL. You need to get pretty close for a vortex. Vortex outranges neural. If you Vortex a single Infestor you might as well have got Neural'd because you just wasted a Vortex. No. When they Vortex your army you can't escape. if they just Fungal everything when it comes out. Better killing something with Vortex than getting Vortexed yourself. it doesn't matter because zerg wins anyway if your vortex is misplaced
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On October 22 2012 01:37 CruelZeratul wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:35 ZAiNs wrote:On October 22 2012 01:34 Zheryn wrote:On October 22 2012 01:33 MWY wrote:On October 22 2012 01:32 CruelZeratul wrote: That MS was clearly to close, I don't get how someone like Mana who is pretty good at micro can let that happen. LOL. You need to get pretty close for a vortex. Vortex outranges neural. If you Vortex a single Infestor you might as well have got Neural'd because you just wasted a Vortex. No. When they Vortex your army you can't escape. if they just Fungal everything when it comes out. Better killing something with Vortex than getting Vortexed yourself.
You don't get it. The whole game revolves around that Vortex. If you don't get a good one. It's game over, There's no coming back. So if you use it on the single infestor, it's a wasted Vortex, the game may as well be over as Zerg can completely dismantle the Toss army without it.
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On October 22 2012 01:38 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:35 MWY wrote:On October 22 2012 01:34 Zheryn wrote:On October 22 2012 01:33 MWY wrote:On October 22 2012 01:32 CruelZeratul wrote: That MS was clearly to close, I don't get how someone like Mana who is pretty good at micro can let that happen. LOL. You need to get pretty close for a vortex. Vortex outranges neural. Cool. Vortexing one infestor wouldve won him that fight obviously. Why would you vortex one infestor when you can just stand still and watch it instant-die from colossus or feedback it if you for some reason do not want to get colossus?
cause he didnt have the gas for it, cause he needed templar with storm against potentially mass muta ling. It's also quite sad when the zerg has more infestors then your templar have feedback.
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On October 22 2012 01:13 -_- wrote: DH's tournaments are always the best, from production, to music, to between game content, to prize pool distribution, to everything!
I think IEM has better prize pool distribution, it's quite bad at DH to be honest. I agree with everything else.
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i thought mana had done all the right moves in the first game but somehow bly was ahead for the whole game. interesting
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How come liquidpedia is saying thet TLO gets a seed for DH winter? he has only 12 points right?
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On October 22 2012 01:39 Domus wrote:I am really starting to miss Terran  .
What is a Terran?
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On October 22 2012 01:44 TheSir wrote: How come liquidpedia is saying thet TLO gets a seed for DH winter? he has only 12 points right?
It's the Liquid advantage™
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