On October 16 2012 22:11 Salient wrote: The GSL has much higher production value IMO. OSL should hire Day9 and Husky to replace the current casters.
No.
OGN(host of OSL) is like the top broadcaster in Korea and definitely has equal or better production than GSL.
Reason why GSL is arguably better than OSL now is because
1.Highest skill level of play is still in GSL. 2.GSL(GOM) cares more about the foreign scene than OSL( Hiring Artosis and Tasteless for English Casting back in 2010 and giving foreign seeds to Code S,Code A and Up&Down) 3.Casters in OSL is subpar compared to GSL Casters.
GSL may be the highest skill-based tournament.
But OSL is like EVERY PROGAMER DREAM and DESIRE. Even in BW and even in SC2. (Being around since the beginning of BW and is the most prestigious league in BW) Ask the MVP,the MC the Nestea the DRG and all the eSF players and Kespa players. They all want to win OSL at least once.
By.Sun also said he values OSL over GSL in one of his interviews.
On October 16 2012 21:45 -y0shi- wrote: I guess Im angry cause Im a protoss fan but I could live with this result if the games wouldve been any good, but this was a waste of time, really bad games Game 1 was depressing...
whole set was depressing
PvZ is depressing. If I were Korean and had just transitionned from watching Brood War I'd be seriously pissed off at how shitty SC2 sometimes it.
On October 16 2012 22:11 Salient wrote: The GSL has much higher production value IMO. OSL should hire Day9 and Husky to replace the current casters.
No.
OGN(host of OSL) is like the top broadcaster in Korea and definitely has equal or better production than GSL.
Reason why GSL is arguably better than OSL now is because
1.Highest skill level of play is still in GSL. 2.GSL(GOM) cares more about the foreign scene than OSL( Hiring Artosis and Tasteless for English Casting back in 2010 and giving foreign seeds to Code S,Code A and Up&Down) 3.Casters in OSL is subpar compared to GSL Casters.
GSL may be the highest skill-based tournament.
But OSL is like EVERY PROGAMER DREAM and DESIRE. Even in BW and even in SC2. (Being around since the beginning of BW and is the most prestigious league in BW) Ask the MVP,the MC the Nestea the DRG and all the eSF players and Kespa players. They all want to win OSL at least once.
By.Sun also said he values OSL over GSL in one of his interviews.
Pretty much sums it up my exact thoughts.
Then your thoughts are about a different subject...
On October 16 2012 21:45 -y0shi- wrote: I guess Im angry cause Im a protoss fan but I could live with this result if the games wouldve been any good, but this was a waste of time, really bad games Game 1 was depressing...
whole set was depressing
PvZ is depressing. If I were Korean and had just transitionned from watching Brood War I'd be seriously pissed off at how shitty SC2 sometimes it.
I for one blame it on Dustin "The Rock" Browder's "terrible terrible damage" approach to things.
On October 16 2012 22:11 Salient wrote: The GSL has much higher production value IMO. OSL should hire Day9 and Husky to replace the current casters.
day9 wont come to korea he and his brother split the world ^^ as he said often before doa is a great caster and moletrap is the face of OGN well i think hes better in LOL and they should find another one for SC2 as partner for DoA but again DOA ROCKS !
On October 16 2012 22:11 Salient wrote: The GSL has much higher production value IMO. OSL should hire Day9 and Husky to replace the current casters.
day9 wont come to korea he and his brother split the world ^^ as he said often before doa is a great caster and moletrap is the face of OGN well i think hes better in LOL and they should find another one for SC2 as partner for DoA but again DOA ROCKS !
I agree I love DOA he follows the scene. Moletrap... *sigh* man I really try not to hate him but he knows nothing about sc2 so can he please stop casting it? ALL watchers who take the time to watch OSL live or pay for VODs know more than him.
On October 16 2012 21:45 -y0shi- wrote: I guess Im angry cause Im a protoss fan but I could live with this result if the games wouldve been any good, but this was a waste of time, really bad games Game 1 was depressing...
whole set was depressing
PvZ is depressing. If I were Korean and had just transitionned from watching Brood War I'd be seriously pissed off at how shitty SC2 sometimes it.
It's not just PvZ. Any match up with P is just depressing to watch.
On October 16 2012 22:11 Salient wrote: The GSL has much higher production value IMO. OSL should hire Day9 and Husky to replace the current casters.
No.
OGN(host of OSL) is like the top broadcaster in Korea and definitely has equal or better production than GSL.
Reason why GSL is arguably better than OSL now is because
1.Highest skill level of play is still in GSL. 2.GSL(GOM) cares more about the foreign scene than OSL( Hiring Artosis and Tasteless for English Casting back in 2010 and giving foreign seeds to Code S,Code A and Up&Down) 3.Casters in OSL is subpar compared to GSL Casters.
GSL may be the highest skill-based tournament.
But OSL is like EVERY PROGAMER DREAM and DESIRE. Even in BW and even in SC2. (Being around since the beginning of BW and is the most prestigious league in BW) Ask the MVP,the MC the Nestea the DRG and all the eSF players and Kespa players. They all want to win OSL at least once.
By.Sun also said he values OSL over GSL in one of his interviews.
On the Korean stream perhaps, but on the English one GSL>OSL in production, and that is partly to do with Casters, but other stuff is just generally better on GSL as well.
On October 16 2012 22:11 Salient wrote: The GSL has much higher production value IMO. OSL should hire Day9 and Husky to replace the current casters.
No.
OGN(host of OSL) is like the top broadcaster in Korea and definitely has equal or better production than GSL.
Reason why GSL is arguably better than OSL now is because
1.Highest skill level of play is still in GSL. 2.GSL(GOM) cares more about the foreign scene than OSL( Hiring Artosis and Tasteless for English Casting back in 2010 and giving foreign seeds to Code S,Code A and Up&Down) 3.Casters in OSL is subpar compared to GSL Casters.
GSL may be the highest skill-based tournament.
But OSL is like EVERY PROGAMER DREAM and DESIRE. Even in BW and even in SC2. (Being around since the beginning of BW and is the most prestigious league in BW) Ask the MVP,the MC the Nestea the DRG and all the eSF players and Kespa players. They all want to win OSL at least once.
By.Sun also said he values OSL over GSL in one of his interviews.
Pretty much sums it up my exact thoughts.
Then your thoughts are about a different subject...
yes its somewhat about a different subject but what he said was true.... well let me elaborate since im at work and dont have much time im gonna try and shorten this up Gom takes great care of the foreign scene ever since classic's..(like mentioned on point 2/3) so yes the Foreign Broadcast is a hell of a lot better from GOM/GSL compaired to OSL..
on the OSL being every progamers dream hes right its like comparing cal-i and to cpl or cevo-p while cal-i was great everyone wanted to win cpl or cevo-p (from a counter-strike 1.6 / source perspective)
and yes on the point about By.Sun you could say its a little bias since hes a Kaspa player...
and last but not least the finals for both GSL and OSL will break records IMO since im pretty sure both will try to out do the other..
On October 16 2012 21:45 -y0shi- wrote: I guess Im angry cause Im a protoss fan but I could live with this result if the games wouldve been any good, but this was a waste of time, really bad games Game 1 was depressing...
whole set was depressing
PvZ is depressing. If I were Korean and had just transitionned from watching Brood War I'd be seriously pissed off at how shitty SC2 sometimes it.
It's not just PvZ. Any match up with P is just depressing to watch.
Very true my friend. Protoss is so wrongly designed it's actually killing the game from a spectator POV.
On October 16 2012 22:11 Salient wrote: The GSL has much higher production value IMO. OSL should hire Day9 and Husky to replace the current casters.
No.
OGN(host of OSL) is like the top broadcaster in Korea and definitely has equal or better production than GSL.
Reason why GSL is arguably better than OSL now is because
1.Highest skill level of play is still in GSL. 2.GSL(GOM) cares more about the foreign scene than OSL( Hiring Artosis and Tasteless for English Casting back in 2010 and giving foreign seeds to Code S,Code A and Up&Down) 3.Casters in OSL is subpar compared to GSL Casters.
GSL may be the highest skill-based tournament.
But OSL is like EVERY PROGAMER DREAM and DESIRE. Even in BW and even in SC2. (Being around since the beginning of BW and is the most prestigious league in BW) Ask the MVP,the MC the Nestea the DRG and all the eSF players and Kespa players. They all want to win OSL at least once.
By.Sun also said he values OSL over GSL in one of his interviews.
Pretty much sums it up my exact thoughts.
Then your thoughts are about a different subject...
yes its somewhat about a different subject but what he said was true.... well let me elaborate since im at work and dont have much time im gonna try and shorten this up Gom takes great care of the foreign scene ever since classic's..(like mentioned on point 2/3) so yes the Foreign Broadcast is a hell of a lot better from GOM/GSL compaired to OSL..
on the OSL being every progamers dream hes right its like comparing cal-i and to cpl or cevo-p while cal-i was great everyone wanted to win cpl or cevo-p (from a counter-strike 1.6 / source perspective)
and yes on the point about By.Sun you could say its a little bias since hes a Kaspa player...
and last but not least the finals for both GSL and OSL will break records IMO since im pretty sure both will try to out do the other..
That is all nice and well but that is completely different to what people mean. Lets give a personal example here shall we. This was the first time i could watch the English OSL stream without it constantly freezing every couple seconds. Let me repeat this so it extra rings, the second seimi finals (i tried watch the first and it felt like someone was pressing the pause button all the time) is the very first time i could watch it without to much troubles. The casters in general on GSL are more knowledgeable (saying MC has bad forcefields and bad builds is a prime example) Those are the issues people talking about. Not the prestige of the tournament itself.
i just finished reading the boss toss' interview thread and i was hoping he would win, and then i saw this thread i feel that mc is more consistent and have better chances going against rain.
On October 17 2012 00:44 bsdaemon wrote: i just finished reading the boss toss' interview thread and i was hoping he would win, and then i saw this thread i feel that mc is more consistent and have better chances going against rain.
I would say MC is "always potentially dangerous" rather than consistent. I feel like some days MC shows up and just has no fight in him at all, and other times he comes in and just roflstomps.
Then again, some people have argued that this perception is a result of his playstyle -- I suppose it's possible that if his style results in either winning or losing in a dramatic fashion, then consistent application of this style could still be giving me that impression
On the other hand, I feel like DRG has had a career composed of long arcs, in which he consistently got better or consistently got worse. Right now, he seems to be on a bit of an upswing. I don't think he'll show up to the finals and play any worse than he did today. (Hopefully he gives Rain a run for his money!!)
On October 16 2012 22:11 Salient wrote: The GSL has much higher production value IMO. OSL should hire Day9 and Husky to replace the current casters.
No.
OGN(host of OSL) is like the top broadcaster in Korea and definitely has equal or better production than GSL.
Reason why GSL is arguably better than OSL now is because
1.Highest skill level of play is still in GSL. 2.GSL(GOM) cares more about the foreign scene than OSL( Hiring Artosis and Tasteless for English Casting back in 2010 and giving foreign seeds to Code S,Code A and Up&Down) 3.Casters in OSL is subpar compared to GSL Casters.
GSL may be the highest skill-based tournament.
But OSL is like EVERY PROGAMER DREAM and DESIRE. Even in BW and even in SC2. (Being around since the beginning of BW and is the most prestigious league in BW) Ask the MVP,the MC the Nestea the DRG and all the eSF players and Kespa players. They all want to win OSL at least once.
By.Sun also said he values OSL over GSL in one of his interviews.
Pretty much sums it up my exact thoughts.
Then your thoughts are about a different subject...
yes its somewhat about a different subject but what he said was true.... well let me elaborate since im at work and dont have much time im gonna try and shorten this up Gom takes great care of the foreign scene ever since classic's..(like mentioned on point 2/3) so yes the Foreign Broadcast is a hell of a lot better from GOM/GSL compaired to OSL..
on the OSL being every progamers dream hes right its like comparing cal-i and to cpl or cevo-p while cal-i was great everyone wanted to win cpl or cevo-p (from a counter-strike 1.6 / source perspective)
and yes on the point about By.Sun you could say its a little bias since hes a Kaspa player...
and last but not least the finals for both GSL and OSL will break records IMO since im pretty sure both will try to out do the other..
That is all nice and well but that is completely different to what people mean. Lets give a personal example here shall we. This was the first time i could watch the English OSL stream without it constantly freezing every couple seconds. Let me repeat this so it extra rings, the second seimi finals (i tried watch the first and it felt like someone was pressing the pause button all the time) is the very first time i could watch it without to much troubles. The casters in general on GSL are more knowledgeable (saying MC has bad forcefields and bad builds is a prime example) Those are the issues people talking about. Not the prestige of the tournament itself.
I see what your saying and and you are completely right on the points you made. it does take some trail and error GOM was not perfect when they started having the stream freeze same as MLG anyone remember the black screen during what ever final it was(not trying to defend OSL since Im a huge GSL supporter) but yes they should have better streaming..
and we all know that the 2 casters for OSL are horrible I never liked either of them.(thats why GOM got ride of them maybe a public outcry like we did with some of the gom casters will get better ones in) and i know they addressed casting issues on SOTG before dont ask me what episode i believe it was somewhere in may 2012 where artosis made some very good points about how some casters are too negative and dont go into detail while the specific build failed due to what was scouted and so on...
EPT
Game 1 was depressing...
