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Standard LR rules apply: No balance whining, no KeSPA vs. GomTV inciting, no excessive derailing ESPECIALLY when games are on. This is not a thread for you to argue with other people.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
October 09 2012 21:04 GMT
#261
On October 10 2012 05:46 Corrosive wrote:
I have a good feeling for MVP after watching Rain vs Last.

But it depends if we see exploded wrist MVP or if we see game genie terran MVP

good feeling as in mvp doing all in and trying to kill rain in the first 10 mins? i dont see how anyone can beat rain in longer game.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 09 2012 21:08 GMT
#262
On October 10 2012 06:04 Diizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 05:46 Corrosive wrote:
I have a good feeling for MVP after watching Rain vs Last.

But it depends if we see exploded wrist MVP or if we see game genie terran MVP

good feeling as in mvp doing all in and trying to kill rain in the first 10 mins? i dont see how anyone can beat rain in longer game.


They all said the same thing about Parting... And then Squirtle. Yet somehow MVP just wins. He just... wins. That's what he does.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
October 09 2012 21:12 GMT
#263
On October 10 2012 06:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:04 Diizzy wrote:
On October 10 2012 05:46 Corrosive wrote:
I have a good feeling for MVP after watching Rain vs Last.

But it depends if we see exploded wrist MVP or if we see game genie terran MVP

good feeling as in mvp doing all in and trying to kill rain in the first 10 mins? i dont see how anyone can beat rain in longer game.


They all said the same thing about Parting... And then Squirtle. Yet somehow MVP just wins. He just... wins. That's what he does.

Because that's what kings do and Mvp is the motherf*cking king.

Too bad I can't watch him killing that Bison, since it's the first match of the night. :/
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 21:22:52
October 09 2012 21:20 GMT
#264
On October 10 2012 05:32 renaissanceMAN wrote:
MVP will beat rain 3-1.

if Last can go 3-0 on rain before crumbling horribly (and last doesn't have half the macro skill MVP does) MVP will shit on him.


Back in 2010, Flash was in a situation very similar to what Rain is in right now. At the time Flash had qualified for both the OSL and MSL finals, and he was due to face a zerg in both. His opponent was Effort in the OSL and Jaedong in the MSL. Flash rolling over Effort, who had only barely gotten out of the group stage, was a foregone conclusion, and everyone was more concerned with hyping up the Flash vs Jaedong rematch of their infamous power outage series. Effort, however, had different plans and pulled off one of the most shocking upsets in Brood War history by coming back from down 0-2 and sweeping the rest of the series to take the OSL. Flash's aura of invincibility, buoyed by his astounding 80%+ winrate in TvZ the previous 10 months, was shattered. If Effort who was clearly inferior to Jaedong in every way could reel off 3 games against Flash then Jaedong surely would do even better right? Actually, Flash 3-0'd Jaedong in arguably the most lopsided series in their personal rivalry.

Now, replace Flash with Rain, Effort with Last and Jaedong with MVP. Look a little familiar? The details are a bit different but the prevailing mood is the same. We might be seeing a little bit of deja vu tonight. Or then again we might not. I'm not making a prediction here, and in fact I'd actually prefer a TvX finals over a PvX finals. I'm just saying that contrary to popular belief progamers are humans not robots and transitive property doesn't work in SC2.
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
October 09 2012 21:45 GMT
#265
Seriously, the OSL games give more hope to Mvp fans than Rain fans.

1) Rain looked pretty vulnerable.
2) Mvp will be able to study these games extensively.
3) Rain has a busier schedule.

I'm willing to bet that Mvp studying Rain's OSL games will be more effective than Rain trying to learn from his own games.
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
October 09 2012 21:49 GMT
#266
The official preview article is really late Ô_Ô

Only 11 hours till games begin

My sources report that Fionn is to blame.. I suggest we lynch him!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 21:49:55
October 09 2012 21:49 GMT
#267
On October 10 2012 06:04 Diizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 05:46 Corrosive wrote:
I have a good feeling for MVP after watching Rain vs Last.

But it depends if we see exploded wrist MVP or if we see game genie terran MVP

good feeling as in mvp doing all in and trying to kill rain in the first 10 mins? i dont see how anyone can beat rain in longer game.


If I were MVP I would all in every game. Today really showed that Rain is weak against it and why no abuse it? Really looking forward to tomorrow .


TAEJA FIGHTING
mind mind mind mind mind mind
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
October 09 2012 21:53 GMT
#268
On October 10 2012 06:49 JazVM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:04 Diizzy wrote:
On October 10 2012 05:46 Corrosive wrote:
I have a good feeling for MVP after watching Rain vs Last.

But it depends if we see exploded wrist MVP or if we see game genie terran MVP

good feeling as in mvp doing all in and trying to kill rain in the first 10 mins? i dont see how anyone can beat rain in longer game.


If I were MVP I would all in every game. Today really showed that Rain is weak against it and why no abuse it? Really looking forward to tomorrow .



Agreed
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 09 2012 22:02 GMT
#269
I REQUEST AN ADJUSTMENT OF CLIMATE SUCH THAT THERE IS MUCH PRECIPITATION THAT FORNICATES WITH YOUR MATERNAL PROGENITOR

+ Show Spoiler +

But I also want MVP to win



I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 09 2012 22:03 GMT
#270
On October 10 2012 06:45 Entirety wrote:
Seriously, the OSL games give more hope to Mvp fans than Rain fans.

1) Rain looked pretty vulnerable.
2) Mvp will be able to study these games extensively.
3) Rain has a busier schedule.

I'm willing to bet that Mvp studying Rain's OSL games will be more effective than Rain trying to learn from his own games.


Rain might have less time to prepare, but as I said in the OSL thread -- he has an advantage MVP doesn't have.

Chronoboost.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Rojam
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany234 Posts
October 09 2012 22:06 GMT
#271
On October 10 2012 06:49 JazVM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:04 Diizzy wrote:
On October 10 2012 05:46 Corrosive wrote:
I have a good feeling for MVP after watching Rain vs Last.

But it depends if we see exploded wrist MVP or if we see game genie terran MVP

good feeling as in mvp doing all in and trying to kill rain in the first 10 mins? i dont see how anyone can beat rain in longer game.


If I were MVP I would all in every game. Today really showed that Rain is weak against it and why no abuse it? Really looking forward to tomorrow .


TAEJA FIGHTING


I'm pretty sure Rain started training against various cheeses right after his OSL performance vs Last. I just hope it was enough time...
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
October 09 2012 22:14 GMT
#272
I want a Life v Rain final and a Life victory. <3

Sick players all around. Cannot wait.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
October 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#273
I'm so excited. So hyped. So pumped.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
October 09 2012 22:24 GMT
#274
On October 10 2012 06:20 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 05:32 renaissanceMAN wrote:
MVP will beat rain 3-1.

if Last can go 3-0 on rain before crumbling horribly (and last doesn't have half the macro skill MVP does) MVP will shit on him.


Back in 2010, Flash was in a situation very similar to what Rain is in right now. At the time Flash had qualified for both the OSL and MSL finals, and he was due to face a zerg in both. His opponent was Effort in the OSL and Jaedong in the MSL. Flash rolling over Effort, who had only barely gotten out of the group stage, was a foregone conclusion, and everyone was more concerned with hyping up the Flash vs Jaedong rematch of their infamous power outage series. Effort, however, had different plans and pulled off one of the most shocking upsets in Brood War history by coming back from down 0-2 and sweeping the rest of the series to take the OSL. Flash's aura of invincibility, buoyed by his astounding 80%+ winrate in TvZ the previous 10 months, was shattered. If Effort who was clearly inferior to Jaedong in every way could reel off 3 games against Flash then Jaedong surely would do even better right? Actually, Flash 3-0'd Jaedong in arguably the most lopsided series in their personal rivalry.

Now, replace Flash with Rain, Effort with Last and Jaedong with MVP. Look a little familiar? The details are a bit different but the prevailing mood is the same. We might be seeing a little bit of deja vu tonight. Or then again we might not. I'm not making a prediction here, and in fact I'd actually prefer a TvX finals over a PvX finals. I'm just saying that contrary to popular belief progamers are humans not robots and transitive property doesn't work in SC2.


Effort did get pretty lucky in those games, though. As I recall, it was like build order win, Flash moves out at the exact wrong second and gets surrounded, build order win.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#275
On October 10 2012 06:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:04 Diizzy wrote:
On October 10 2012 05:46 Corrosive wrote:
I have a good feeling for MVP after watching Rain vs Last.

But it depends if we see exploded wrist MVP or if we see game genie terran MVP

good feeling as in mvp doing all in and trying to kill rain in the first 10 mins? i dont see how anyone can beat rain in longer game.


They all said the same thing about Parting... And then Squirtle. Yet somehow MVP just wins. He just... wins. That's what he does.


i was going to respond with the same thing. well done. GO MVP!
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
October 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#276
Life must go on. I'm sorry if someone already wrote this pun. But he must!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
October 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#277
On October 10 2012 07:24 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:20 red4ce wrote:
On October 10 2012 05:32 renaissanceMAN wrote:
MVP will beat rain 3-1.

if Last can go 3-0 on rain before crumbling horribly (and last doesn't have half the macro skill MVP does) MVP will shit on him.


Back in 2010, Flash was in a situation very similar to what Rain is in right now. At the time Flash had qualified for both the OSL and MSL finals, and he was due to face a zerg in both. His opponent was Effort in the OSL and Jaedong in the MSL. Flash rolling over Effort, who had only barely gotten out of the group stage, was a foregone conclusion, and everyone was more concerned with hyping up the Flash vs Jaedong rematch of their infamous power outage series. Effort, however, had different plans and pulled off one of the most shocking upsets in Brood War history by coming back from down 0-2 and sweeping the rest of the series to take the OSL. Flash's aura of invincibility, buoyed by his astounding 80%+ winrate in TvZ the previous 10 months, was shattered. If Effort who was clearly inferior to Jaedong in every way could reel off 3 games against Flash then Jaedong surely would do even better right? Actually, Flash 3-0'd Jaedong in arguably the most lopsided series in their personal rivalry.

Now, replace Flash with Rain, Effort with Last and Jaedong with MVP. Look a little familiar? The details are a bit different but the prevailing mood is the same. We might be seeing a little bit of deja vu tonight. Or then again we might not. I'm not making a prediction here, and in fact I'd actually prefer a TvX finals over a PvX finals. I'm just saying that contrary to popular belief progamers are humans not robots and transitive property doesn't work in SC2.


Effort did get pretty lucky in those games, though. As I recall, it was like build order win, Flash moves out at the exact wrong second and gets surrounded, build order win.

that was similar to rain v last games though, they were all gimmicks/all ins that he won with.
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
October 09 2012 22:50 GMT
#278
On October 10 2012 07:03 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 06:45 Entirety wrote:
Seriously, the OSL games give more hope to Mvp fans than Rain fans.

1) Rain looked pretty vulnerable.
2) Mvp will be able to study these games extensively.
3) Rain has a busier schedule.

I'm willing to bet that Mvp studying Rain's OSL games will be more effective than Rain trying to learn from his own games.


Rain might have less time to prepare, but as I said in the OSL thread -- he has an advantage MVP doesn't have.

Chronoboost.


That's a pretty sick advantage but I think it's completely outweighed - and then some - by an advantage MVP has that Rain does not.

Mules.










And being the mother phucking KINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
October 09 2012 22:54 GMT
#279
Really hoping for a TvT finals. By far the best match-up these days.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 22:56:31
October 09 2012 22:56 GMT
#280
On October 10 2012 07:54 Kettchup wrote:
Really hoping for a TvT finals. By far the best match-up these days.

i assume youre a terran player?

as a protoss, i wont watch a TvT or TvZ finals, find the match ups pretty boring
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