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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
October 09 2012 11:09 GMT
#281
On October 09 2012 20:07 wo1fwood wrote:
better poll, which all in will Last use next?


Entombed Valley is the map, I guess we will see some 7-8 rax all-in on 2 bases with no gas or one gas.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
October 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#282
On October 09 2012 20:09 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 20:06 HaXXspetten wrote:
Last's play is utterly disgusting


Toss lategame is utterly disgusting.


Greedy play is utterly disgusting. I can do it too see!
essence.gg - "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett
Day9notdead
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation501 Posts
October 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#283
On October 09 2012 19:50 WinningGuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 19:44 silent_owl wrote:
Quick question, how do you defend against a 2 rax? I'm guessing just stalkers would be good against pure marines.


Stalkers and I like to wall off, if you scout it earlier you can cut probes faster and make a second gateway, which usually lets you live. Unfortunately your usually caught off gaurd and have to dance with 1 gate being cronoboosted making stalkers, and in this scenario you defend by having godlike control almost.

I think 2 rax is a decent play, most protoss players like myself don't scout till stalker

If you scout it too late, it's like scouting a 2 gate proxy in your base and you have 1 marine on the low ground saying, from this point "how do I defend against a 2 gate proxy?" Your already screwed and you should have scouted better.

The reality is you need to scout around your main, nat and 3rd with your probe.

I prefer doing this when I do probe scout instead of stalker scout even though I may not get into the Terran's main, as 90% of games I play now I get to the Terran's base and he drops a 2nd depot to stop my probe from coming in. in other words scouting straight to his base is a waste of time.

I may as well scout around for cheese instead of missing cheese and running into a wall off.


remark: if you "miss a cheese" you can't run into a wall off cuz there's nothing to wall with
Rojam
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany234 Posts
October 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#284
Being supply blocked 2 times while getting 1/1/1'ed doesn't help...
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#285
Last's play is definitely not disgusting, it seems to be working well vs Rain so I guess It's a good choice. I think Rain can turn this around and win 4-3 though.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#286
And this is why hype trains are bad, they always crash and burn.
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12041 Posts
October 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#287
On October 09 2012 20:09 silent_owl wrote:
Wasn't around to see BitbyBit, was he this irritating to watch? LOL!

Props to Last though. Smart play to punish Rain's greedy play.


Pretty much this.

I still hate Last though. T_T
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VaMouse
Profile Joined September 2011
France3 Posts
October 09 2012 11:10 GMT
#288
Why so many Rain fanboy ? We saw that Rain is very good at lategame unit control and decision making.
Last is playing the counter --> cheesy agressive play.

Protoss > Terran lategame so what the problem ?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#289
On October 09 2012 20:10 InoyouS2 wrote:
And this is why hype trains are bad, they always crash and burn.


It's not over yet.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#290
MC getting manhandled by Alive in the GSL? What's the scoreline over there now?

Wow. Going down 2-0. Let's see how strong Rain is mentally.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#291
Poll: Next gameplan?

Proxy Cloakshees (7)
 
29%

Other (5)
 
21%

3rax BitByBit (4)
 
17%

11/11 again (3)
 
13%

Proxy Hellion drop (3)
 
13%

1/1/1 again (1)
 
4%

2port (1)
 
4%

24 total votes

Your vote: Next gameplan?

(Vote): 11/11 again
(Vote): 1/1/1 again
(Vote): Proxy Hellion drop
(Vote): Proxy Cloakshees
(Vote): 2port
(Vote): 3rax BitByBit
(Vote): Other

Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
October 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#292
On October 09 2012 20:10 VaMouse wrote:
Why so many Rain fanboy ? We saw that Rain is very good at lategame unit control and decision making.
Last is playing the counter --> cheesy agressive play.

Protoss > Terran lategame so what the problem ?


that's not really true
protoss living in da ghetto
Anomek
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland152 Posts
October 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#293
On October 09 2012 20:09 Serelitz wrote:
Missed the start, what happened in the first 2 games?


1. Last wins with proxy 2rax on Daybreak
2. Last defends 1gate expo into 4gate pressure and procceed to kill rain with 1base tank marine medivac scv
InDesconrowl
Profile Joined April 2012
Togo311 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 11:13:11
October 09 2012 11:11 GMT
#294
Last is killing esports with this play, but I definately called it so far.

Last is like the kid who just cheeses on ladder all the time. Rain plays macro games on ladder. Cheeser will get wins until the macro player gets good enough to hold cheese while playing standard. Then macro player wins championships.

No cheeser has ever won a GSL.
:tg: Ginyu Force :tg:
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
October 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#295
On October 09 2012 20:09 Serelitz wrote:
Missed the start, what happened in the first 2 games?


Didnt saw Game 1 but Game 2 was 1/1/1 vs 1 Gate expand into 4Gate pressure. The 4gate pressure was pretty ineffective, especially because Last was already had 2 or 3 tanks out, he then proceeded to push, pulling the scv train twice in order to seal the deal with marines/tanks/medivac
twitter@RickyMarou
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 09 2012 11:12 GMT
#296
Had this been Flash playing, everyone would have been applauding Last. I think he's doing great so far, and it'd be very cool to see him pull the upset against Rain who has his one of the biggest hype trains ever.
If Last knows he's playing against a superior late-game player, why would he go there in the OS freakin' L?
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MogA
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland43 Posts
October 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#297
entertaning games, but i dont like how the casters are always interupting each other :/
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
October 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#298
you guys call the first game an allin? :D rlly?

but yeah. sad times... looks like people wanna see 20min no rush games.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
October 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#299
On October 09 2012 20:11 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2012 20:10 InoyouS2 wrote:
And this is why hype trains are bad, they always crash and burn.


It's not over yet.

I'm referring more to the thread and the fanboys than to Rain. It's the same every time.
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YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
October 09 2012 11:13 GMT
#300
On October 09 2012 20:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Poll: Next gameplan?

Proxy Cloakshees (7)
 
29%

Other (5)
 
21%

3rax BitByBit (4)
 
17%

11/11 again (3)
 
13%

Proxy Hellion drop (3)
 
13%

1/1/1 again (1)
 
4%

2port (1)
 
4%

24 total votes

Your vote: Next gameplan?

(Vote): 11/11 again
(Vote): 1/1/1 again
(Vote): Proxy Hellion drop
(Vote): Proxy Cloakshees
(Vote): 2port
(Vote): 3rax BitByBit
(Vote): Other



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