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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lsdKA.jpg) Evil Geniuses Master's Cup Series League - Season VIIISaturday, Sep 22 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)Website: http://mcsl.evilgeniuses.net/Stream: http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametvCasters: Azael & TBD FormatThe Evil Geniuses Master’s Cup Series League will feature 12 teams in a round robin format with each team matchup containing at least four best of three games between two teams. The top four teams at the end of the season will advance to the playoffs on a two day live broadcast weekend.
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L6Pww.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uh2Co.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rk5yz.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/O0GJS.png)  Suppy <GSL Ohana>  Apocalypse + Show Spoiler + Suppy <GSL Ohana>  Apocalypse Suppy <GSL Metropolis>  Apocalypse  IdrA <GSL Whirlwind>  Hawk + Show Spoiler + IdrA <GSL Whirlwind>  Hawk IdrA <GSL Ohana>  Hawk  PuMa <GSL Antiga Shipyard>  TheStC This match will not be broadcast due to corrupted replays+ Show Spoiler +  PuMa <GSL Antiga Shipyard>  TheStC TheStC defeats PuMa 2-1  JYP <GSL Metropolis>  State + Show Spoiler + JYP <GSL Metropolis>  State  JYP <GSL Ohana> State JYP <GSL Entombed Valley> State Final Score: + Show Spoiler + JYP <GSL Cloud Kingdom>  Apocalypse  JYP <GSL Ohana> Apocalypse JYP <GSL Daybreak> Apocalypse2-2
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/10oCI.png) Poll: Who do you think will win?EG (22) 63% Quantic (13) 37% 35 total votes Your vote: Who do you think will win? (Vote): EG (Vote): Quantic
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put team's roster in spoilers or link the logos to team's liquipêdia page please!
this should go to ace match where thestc takes it home for quantic.. so 3-2 for quantic!
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EG oughta have this, hopefully 3-1.
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Suppy Hawk StC JYP
Stephano > StC
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On September 23 2012 01:57 Dexington wrote: Suppy Hawk StC JYP
Stephano > StC
Don't think Stephano will be in this, PuMa or JYP as ace imo
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DO WORK, YO. #YODO <3 Quantic.
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iNcontroL
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stephano/demuslim unavailable due to Valencia
This war was played very recently!
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Does anyone know if who plays who is decided before the match? You'd think Idra would be a good match against State and JYP would be better against Hawk, rather than having them both play mirrors. I know Idra's ZvZ is statistically his best or whatever but there's always that element of risk.
Shame about the Puma/StC games though, I love watching Puma's TvT - probably some of the only TvT I actually like watching.
And I want to see the others playing too! I like the ESEA clan matches when LzGamer, Machine and InControl play.
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United States1409 Posts
On September 23 2012 02:23 Larkin wrote: Does anyone know if who plays who is decided before the match? You'd think Idra would be a good match against State and JYP would be better against Hawk, rather than having them both play mirrors. I know Idra's ZvZ is statistically his best or whatever but there's always that element of risk.
Shame about the Puma/StC games though, I love watching Puma's TvT - probably some of the only TvT I actually like watching.
And I want to see the others playing too! I like the ESEA clan matches when LzGamer, Machine and InControl play.
I think they send the players based on the maps so it is blind for both teams.
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On September 23 2012 02:31 HotGlueGun wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 02:23 Larkin wrote: Does anyone know if who plays who is decided before the match? You'd think Idra would be a good match against State and JYP would be better against Hawk, rather than having them both play mirrors. I know Idra's ZvZ is statistically his best or whatever but there's always that element of risk.
Shame about the Puma/StC games though, I love watching Puma's TvT - probably some of the only TvT I actually like watching.
And I want to see the others playing too! I like the ESEA clan matches when LzGamer, Machine and InControl play. I think they send the players based on the maps so it is blind for both teams.
Yeah, that makes sense. Though that only really increases the chances of mirrors, as Zergs will think "this map is good for Zerg" and pick it and Terrans the same and so on.
I'm still torn between this and the all-kill format. I think this is a little more fair, but I like the added tactics of choosing snipers and whatnot.
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On September 23 2012 02:42 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 02:31 HotGlueGun wrote:On September 23 2012 02:23 Larkin wrote: Does anyone know if who plays who is decided before the match? You'd think Idra would be a good match against State and JYP would be better against Hawk, rather than having them both play mirrors. I know Idra's ZvZ is statistically his best or whatever but there's always that element of risk.
Shame about the Puma/StC games though, I love watching Puma's TvT - probably some of the only TvT I actually like watching.
And I want to see the others playing too! I like the ESEA clan matches when LzGamer, Machine and InControl play. I think they send the players based on the maps so it is blind for both teams. Yeah, that makes sense. Though that only really increases the chances of mirrors, as Zergs will think "this map is good for Zerg" and pick it and Terrans the same and so on. I'm still torn between this and the all-kill format. I think this is a little more fair, but I like the added tactics of choosing snipers and whatnot.
Although you can still get into meta-picking, like "If this map is good for Zerg and the other team is likely to field their really good Zerg player, we'll field our Zerg sniper"
Anyways, I'm going with 4-0 for Evil Geniuses.
EG EG baby baby baby
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I'm gonna say 3-1 EG. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see 2-1s across the board. I think StC is just a little bit better than Puma right now.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
Corrupted replays?!?!
Damn it...
PuMa and TheStC was going to be the only Korean vs Korea match up today T-T....
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
IdrA casting ! ! ! get hyped
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
So can we get the results of puma vs thestc if they can't be shown.
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quite underwhelming without the best match of the day
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On September 23 2012 02:42 Larkin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 02:31 HotGlueGun wrote:On September 23 2012 02:23 Larkin wrote: Does anyone know if who plays who is decided before the match? You'd think Idra would be a good match against State and JYP would be better against Hawk, rather than having them both play mirrors. I know Idra's ZvZ is statistically his best or whatever but there's always that element of risk.
Shame about the Puma/StC games though, I love watching Puma's TvT - probably some of the only TvT I actually like watching.
And I want to see the others playing too! I like the ESEA clan matches when LzGamer, Machine and InControl play. I think they send the players based on the maps so it is blind for both teams. Yeah, that makes sense. Though that only really increases the chances of mirrors, as Zergs will think "this map is good for Zerg" and pick it and Terrans the same and so on. I'm still torn between this and the all-kill format. I think this is a little more fair, but I like the added tactics of choosing snipers and whatnot. All kill is definitely more exciting, but for an online league i think i prefer this format. I'm glad that we have multiple team leagues using multiple formats, its interesting to see how the teams do under different formats.
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oh so it's already got played? Nice! ;d and yes idra is a good caster!
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suppy just got one of the best baneling bombs of all time. that was hilarious
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Idra + Incontrol is a really good duo. Incontrol + anyone is a really good duo though
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iNcontroL
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<3 ty guys
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Wasn't expecting the 4gate to work for JYP but glad it did!
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On September 23 2012 03:59 goswser wrote:Idra + Incontrol is a really good duo. Incontrol + anyone is a really good duo though 
omg something positive about idra! haha :DDDD
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On September 23 2012 04:48 CeriseCherries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 03:59 goswser wrote:Idra + Incontrol is a really good duo. Incontrol + anyone is a really good duo though  omg something positive about idra! haha :DDDD
kinda sad knowing they quite BM each other( or only idra) lol :D
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Oh wow what a game... too bad for JYP...
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Eh............................. OK
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oh wow... that was quite a ridiculous game
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That was razor close. Probably the closest game I've ever seen lol. Pylon down to red and State eliminates JYPs probes just in time.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
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Apoc just salvaged a bunker while building 2.... placement and all but that's messed up
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does OP spoil this game 1?
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On September 23 2012 05:31 Denzil wrote: does OP spoil this game 1?
or maybe just messed up code
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No idea why Quantic would send Apoc, but I guess TheStC wasn't available.
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He played 3rd game so I'm sure he was available...
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On September 23 2012 05:46 Megiddosc wrote: No idea why Quantic would send Apoc, but I guess TheStC wasn't available.
StC and SaSe were on planes to Valencia during the time the ace match needed to be played
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how the heck did JYP lose to to state
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JYP letting down EG in two matches he should have won T_T
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On September 23 2012 06:21 StaplerPhone wrote: JYP letting down EG in two matches he should have won T_T
disappointing to see EG lose with the lineup they put out 
surprised they had JYP ace though, when it seems like QxG would put out either STC or apocalypse yeah yeah JYP isn't complete crap at vT. But he's not great, and you have so many other options
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Argh, EG don't turn into IM >.< have the amazing roster and start playing people in the wrong matches etc >.<
Puma/Stephano the best and most inform players in EG (imo)(was always Puma but now Stephano here he gets to be in that column too) so they should have those 2 alternate as the Ace if they are needed. So sad 0-2 to teams they should be beating!
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Sounds like EG is doing the old IM thing.
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JYP T.T naoooo shoulda maybe played puma or something
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wow this is surprising so far o.O
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JYP vs State, how did this happen?...
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I never believed the 'EG curse'. But looking at the results, there might be some 'EG teamleague curse'.
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On September 23 2012 07:33 iglocska wrote: JYP vs State, how did this happen?...
State is actually pretty good, and has beaten players such as Gumiho, Shine, and Hyun. Plus PvP is still very volatile. Glad to see Quantic pull out the win after EG gained such an early lead.
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On September 23 2012 07:41 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 07:33 iglocska wrote: JYP vs State, how did this happen?... State is actually pretty good, and has beaten players such as Gumiho, Shine, and Hyun. Plus PvP is still very volatile. Glad to see Quantic pull out the win after EG gained such an early lead. True, forgot about that insane run that he had. Was that at MLG or IPL?
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On September 23 2012 08:46 iglocska wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 07:41 Bagration wrote:On September 23 2012 07:33 iglocska wrote: JYP vs State, how did this happen?... State is actually pretty good, and has beaten players such as Gumiho, Shine, and Hyun. Plus PvP is still very volatile. Glad to see Quantic pull out the win after EG gained such an early lead. True, forgot about that insane run that he had. Was that at MLG or IPL?
no one said that State is bad, but that JYP is supposed to be able to beat him
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JYP may have holded back his best strats because he is so far into the GSL.
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On September 23 2012 08:54 phisku wrote: JYP may have holded back his best strats because he is so far into the GSL. If that's true, then maybe it's best to send another player out in a team league match instead and not use him as an ace though...
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Who picks EG's line ups? I'm not questioning them as such, I'm just intrigued to know. Geoff is captain? Or is it evoli (general manager)?
They should have won tonight, JYP was unfortunate. I feel that Puma is a solid ace for EG to throw out, him or Stephano will typically be the ace I'd imagine: so tonight something must have just occurred!
I get the reasons to JYP ace though: he recently posted some strong PvT results and as such I do sort of get it.
Yeah, I contradicted myself and did question the line up.. Aha
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On September 23 2012 09:24 TriZen wrote: Who picks EG's line ups? I'm not questioning them as such, I'm just intrigued to know. Geoff is captain? Or is it evoli (general manager)?
They should have won tonight, JYP was unfortunate. I feel that Puma is a solid ace for EG to throw out, him or Stephano will typically be the ace I'd imagine: so tonight something must have just occurred!
I get the reasons to JYP ace though: he recently posted some strong PvT results and as such I do sort of get it.
Yeah, I contradicted myself and did question the line up.. Aha
I'd pick JYP over Puma in a heartbeat, I feel he has overall been a lot stronger lately.
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United States1409 Posts
Rare occasion where EG's koreans let them down. Still, once Stephano starts to play and Thorzain regains his form EG will be able to beat any team in this league (and they won't have room for many more losses if they want to make playoffs).
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Oh wow, nicely done Quantic!
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On September 23 2012 08:54 phisku wrote: JYP may have holded back his best strats because he is so far into the GSL.
I was thinking the very same thing. Sometimes that happens when there matches are shown to everyone all the time
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iNcontroL
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more goes into picking lineups than "who is the best"
As I said on page 1 demu/stephano couldn't play as they are at Valencia. Huk is in korea (Puma / JYP are as well but can do better with the latency)
As far as the ace is concerned we thought JYP would face STC as STC is prob quantic's best AND he already beat Puma (our regular ace) but with JYP training almost exclusively for his code S group of MVP/MKP we thought it was a good draw. If you watch the games JYP had tremendously bad luck 1 game and then in game 3 he shat down his leg when he should have won
it happens!
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On September 23 2012 10:09 iNcontroL wrote: more goes into picking lineups than "who is the best"
As I said on page 1 demu/stephano couldn't play as they are at Valencia. Huk is in korea (Puma / JYP are as well but can do better with the latency)
As far as the ace is concerned we thought JYP would face STC as STC is prob quantic's best AND he already beat Puma (our regular ace) but with JYP training almost exclusively for his code S group of MVP/MKP we thought it was a good draw. If you watch the games JYP had tremendously bad luck 1 game and then in game 3 he shat down his leg when he should have won
it happens!
ha, Ya, see where your coming from, I wanted EG to pull thru so bad that we become way to critical of certain games when pressure is high
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Glib excuses aside, Geoff, I'd love to just hear you say once, "We underachieved again and are trying to rectify it"
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On September 23 2012 11:41 Liph wrote: Glib excuses aside, Geoff, I'd love to just hear you say once, "We underachieved again and are trying to rectify it" lol why do you call him Geoff? Do you know him on a personal basis or something?
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37065 Posts
On September 23 2012 11:44 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 11:41 Liph wrote: Glib excuses aside, Geoff, I'd love to just hear you say once, "We underachieved again and are trying to rectify it" lol why do you call him Geoff? Do you know him on a personal basis or something? What? You don't need to know iNcontroL on a personal level to call him Geoff. It's his name...
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On September 23 2012 11:41 Liph wrote: Glib excuses aside, Geoff, I'd love to just hear you say once, "We underachieved again and are trying to rectify it" shut up people asked why we didnt play certain players in ace and he explained why and then explained why we made the choice we did
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On September 23 2012 11:52 SeeKeR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2012 11:44 Whatson wrote:On September 23 2012 11:41 Liph wrote: Glib excuses aside, Geoff, I'd love to just hear you say once, "We underachieved again and are trying to rectify it" lol why do you call him Geoff? Do you know him on a personal basis or something? What? You don't need to know iNcontroL on a personal level to call him Geoff. It's his name... Yeah I guess, it's just I'm more used to people calling him by his screen-name than his actual name So now people that call players Jos, Marcus, Greg, or whatever just don't sound the same
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personally i think it's insulting for some one who doesn't know incontrol to call him by his first name. Theres a reason why people ask if it's ok to use the first name it's meant to be between friends/family not some random stranger that wants to critize him.
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On September 23 2012 11:41 Liph wrote: Glib excuses aside, Geoff, I'd love to just hear you say once, "We underachieved again and are trying to rectify it"
He says that like once a month. You either don't watch interviews or are retarded.
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I actually said it during the broadcast. For like 5 minutes I went on about how much losses suck and we work hard to not have them happen.. I don't have to say it each time I speak about a loss we have.
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On September 23 2012 10:09 iNcontroL wrote: more goes into picking lineups than "who is the best"
As I said on page 1 demu/stephano couldn't play as they are at Valencia. Huk is in korea (Puma / JYP are as well but can do better with the latency)
As far as the ace is concerned we thought JYP would face STC as STC is prob quantic's best AND he already beat Puma (our regular ace) but with JYP training almost exclusively for his code S group of MVP/MKP we thought it was a good draw. If you watch the games JYP had tremendously bad luck 1 game and then in game 3 he shat down his leg when he should have won
it happens!
What about Thorzain? :o
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May be try Suppy next time?
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On September 23 2012 13:29 iNcontroL wrote: I actually said it during the broadcast. For like 5 minutes I went on about how much losses suck and we work hard to not have them happen.. I don't have to say it each time I speak about a loss we have.
You dont really need to talk about it as much as you do even. Its the nature of esports,
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I thought EG would take this easily. GO EG!! I think it is awesome when team members explain how they chose the players, so much insight
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2-2? Didn't think there were tie's
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idra making excuses for his own BM was the highlight of the series
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On September 23 2012 14:54 Balgrog wrote: 2-2? Didn't think there were tie's
There aren't.
+ Show Spoiler +Ace match- Quantic won. Read OP
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How the hell does a team full of accomplished players like idra lose to a team that has players with no achievements like quantic and root?
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On September 23 2012 15:45 from_under wrote: How the hell does a team full of accomplished players like idra lose to a team that has players with no achievements like quantic and root? Because that's not how competition works. Do you really think people with no achievements stay at no achievements for their life? Of course not. How do they get them? They beat teams that have some. Nothing new, and Quantic has some pretty good players, not to be underestimated. Also, it's weird that you name Idra, because he won his match 2-0..
Finished watching the VOD, that was heart wrenching. JYP messed his control at the absolute least opportune time in both game 3s. He probably feels worse then everybody else combined. Oh well, EG will avenge!
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EG should just switch to an all kill format mid season so stephano can win everything for them. It is their tournament afterall, they can and should be able to do whatever they want.
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On September 23 2012 15:45 from_under wrote: How the hell does a team full of accomplished players like idra lose to a team that has players with no achievements like quantic and root? well, this is one of the most sophisticated trolls ever.
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On September 23 2012 16:01 from_under wrote: EG should just switch to an all kill format mid season so stephano can win everything for them. It is their tournament afterall, they can and should be able to do whatever they want. For some reason that made me think about the Trial of the Xel'Naga tournament, have some maps where you can have all units die or something just to have a specific player win, it could actually be pretty funny
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Nicely done Apoc! Gonna catch the rebroadcast for sure.
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On September 23 2012 16:01 from_under wrote: EG should just switch to an all kill format mid season so stephano can win everything for them. It is their tournament afterall, they can and should be able to do whatever they want.
EG: hey lets run a tournament so people can see more foreign teams battle it out. lets also make a decent prizepool! We get sponsor exposure and people get games! yay us
TL Users: they are going to manipulate it so they can win
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Man poor JYP </3
Must feel terrible to lose twice in a row, once in a normal match (the one that would have closed it out) and once in the ace match from up 1-0 each time ;__;
Well-played Apoc though!
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Can't win'em all, JYP shall return victorious.
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Woah, loads of recent teamleague games have had some of the lesser players performing much better than expected against stronger opponents, awesome to see. Wp Quantic.
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why EG why
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God I love both JYP and Apoc. Good to see Apoc winning though because I feel like he needs the momentum a bit more than JYP right now.
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