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On September 18 2012 18:50 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:43 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol ace placed like 2 too manycannons Actually Roro played that pretty terribly at the start, that should have been an auto win right there. If you can't win against a protoss player who doesn't even scout and doesn't start putting up a second cannon till the roaches are at the front door, that's pretty bad. Ace threw that game away not because of the mass cannons but because of the inexplicable decision to all-in afterwards. Roro was on two-base, Ace could've played a lot more patiently there. Roro definitely played game 1 really well though, but game 2 initial all-in control wasn't very strong.
No, Roro's only mistake was forgetting his small army in the center of map at the start of his attack. And Ace made the right decision to all in - he was looking for a timing attack if Roro had expanded after getting ahead big.
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I wonder how long it will take before the whole elephant/ESF hostile blabbering subsides to a more usual fanboy/fanboy hostile blabbering.
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On September 18 2012 18:54 ElephantBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:50 Fragile51 wrote:On September 18 2012 18:49 Solarist wrote:On September 18 2012 18:47 mrtomjones wrote:On September 18 2012 18:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
Those who says the series is terrible, obviously don't understand every detail and thoughts zerg players put into the game. They can only saw the obvious. Uhh.. it was fairly bad... Ace looked his usual PvZ self and the games were very one sided.... just because one person executes a plan the way they want it does not automatically make it a good series. Look at his name. Why do you think he think it was a great series, considering what organization the winner was from? RorO is his dad? How cute D: You idiot. Again, my ID has nothing to do with the elephant article. It is the crying elephant baby appearing whenever teamliquid crashes.
Sheesh, calm down brah. Was just joking around. The fact that you take such offense to it is pretty amusing though :p
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On September 18 2012 18:51 FireSA wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:50 ElephantBaby wrote:On September 18 2012 18:47 mrtomjones wrote:On September 18 2012 18:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
Those who says the series is terrible, obviously don't understand every detail and thoughts zerg players put into the game. They can only saw the obvious. Uhh.. it was fairly bad... Ace looked his usual PvZ self and the games were very one sided.... just because one person executes a plan the way they want it does not automatically make it a good series. Not many GSL zergs have those multi prong attack skills. Really? Are you really going there? I thought BW fans were going to be more mature. I already miss balance whiners, at least they were amusing, this is just irritating.
I don't even know why you are bringing BW into the picture. we saw Roro's play, it was good, we complimented his play. You are the one that's being unncessarily harsh. The fact that you brought up BW fan vs SC2 fan meant you are being biased against BW players.
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One thing I like with the incoming Kespa players is that they completely shake up things. You can't assume anything any more, they have different information/strategy networks. Everyone should play either safe or aggressive. Or risk dying.
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Rare must be one of the biggest ?'s we've had.
No idea how he plays, no idea how well he plays, and given he had a very easy prelim bracket no idea how good he is.
On September 18 2012 18:54 WigglingSquid wrote:
I wonder how long it will take before the whole elephant/ESF hostile blabbering subsides to a more usual fanboy/fanboy hostile blabbering.
Months. You always get people coming in to simply stir things up with silly statements one way or another.
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On September 18 2012 18:51 FireSA wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:50 ElephantBaby wrote:On September 18 2012 18:47 mrtomjones wrote:On September 18 2012 18:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
Those who says the series is terrible, obviously don't understand every detail and thoughts zerg players put into the game. They can only saw the obvious. Uhh.. it was fairly bad... Ace looked his usual PvZ self and the games were very one sided.... just because one person executes a plan the way they want it does not automatically make it a good series. Not many GSL zergs have those multi prong attack skills. Really? Are you really going there? I thought BW fans were going to be more mature. I already miss balance whiners, at least they were amusing, this is just irritating.
OK, let me be more mature, no GSL zerg possess those multi prong attack skills.
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On September 18 2012 18:55 Asha` wrote:
Rare must be one of the biggest ?'s we've had.
No idea how he plays, no idea how well he plays, and given he had a very easy prelim bracket no idea how good he is.
No one in whole world knows who the hell is he. Would be fun if he happened to be the new star.
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On September 18 2012 18:53 Tsubbi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:50 Yello wrote:On September 18 2012 18:45 CTRLTiLT wrote:On September 18 2012 18:41 KiNGxXx wrote:On September 18 2012 18:37 CTRLTiLT wrote:On September 18 2012 18:35 KiNGxXx wrote:On September 18 2012 18:34 CTRLTiLT wrote:On September 18 2012 18:32 KiNGxXx wrote:On September 18 2012 18:31 morlakaix wrote:On September 18 2012 18:30 KiNGxXx wrote:
RorO didn't even play very good. But Ace.... ...what? Roro outplayed him the whole game.. If one player is playing bad you only need mediocre play to outclass him. what did Roro do that was "medicore"? Nothing special obviously. lol what do you even define as "special" ? Roro had ridiculous multitasking and executed a multi prong harass with perfection. Scouted the twilight council and spotted the high stalker count which led him to go mass roach. Some unnecessary hating going on here.. "Ridiculous multitasking"? He can build roaches and split them in two groups. OMG only Elephants can do this! Yes, he played way better than Ace. But it wasn't impressive. I'm not saying he can't play impressive but he couldn't show it in this game. Splitting roaches, microing BOTH sides WELL, cost efficiently engaging armies, slipping past Aces defense, burrowing roaches at mineral line constantly as harassment, taking a fourth and massing spines, teching up to Hive and infestors with upgrades all at the same time. but I guess all that shit is easy as fuck He didn't do all of that at the same time. He did play well but you are overstating. We saw a lot of this and better stuff before so this is actually nothing special. And Roro mostly looked so good because Ace didn't put up much of a fight. Ace didn't split his army well, didn't use force fields well, had units doing nothing during the fight. Ace playing bad made Roro looking good here because he could just crush in with his Roach force. ace looked bad because roro played well roro proved in wcs that he's already extremely good at zvp
I'm out of here since the Kespa troll fan club is around again but I have to point you to Ace's recent PvZ's. He looked bad because he is bad. He has only ever had one or two flashes of brilliance followed by many losses.
Is TL ever going to get back up to the maturity where the only things debated here were balance and Idra? Even that was better than this garbage -_-
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On September 18 2012 18:54 WigglingSquid wrote:
I wonder how long it will take before the whole elephant/ESF hostile blabbering subsides to a more usual fanboy/fanboy hostile blabbering.
Actually, it has died down a lot compare with WCS. At least no more elephant pics... I think by the first GSL in 2013, it should be all gone.
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On September 18 2012 18:55 ElephantBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:51 FireSA wrote:On September 18 2012 18:50 ElephantBaby wrote:On September 18 2012 18:47 mrtomjones wrote:On September 18 2012 18:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
Those who says the series is terrible, obviously don't understand every detail and thoughts zerg players put into the game. They can only saw the obvious. Uhh.. it was fairly bad... Ace looked his usual PvZ self and the games were very one sided.... just because one person executes a plan the way they want it does not automatically make it a good series. Not many GSL zergs have those multi prong attack skills. Really? Are you really going there? I thought BW fans were going to be more mature. I already miss balance whiners, at least they were amusing, this is just irritating. OK, let me be more mature, no GSL zerg possess those multi prong attack skills.
Euro zergs do. I haven´t watched GSL for a while, due having to work at that time, but I highly doubt, that they would´nt do it as well, considering, that they are at least on the same level.
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On September 18 2012 18:54 CTRLTiLT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:51 FireSA wrote:On September 18 2012 18:50 ElephantBaby wrote:On September 18 2012 18:47 mrtomjones wrote:On September 18 2012 18:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
Those who says the series is terrible, obviously don't understand every detail and thoughts zerg players put into the game. They can only saw the obvious. Uhh.. it was fairly bad... Ace looked his usual PvZ self and the games were very one sided.... just because one person executes a plan the way they want it does not automatically make it a good series. Not many GSL zergs have those multi prong attack skills. Really? Are you really going there? I thought BW fans were going to be more mature. I already miss balance whiners, at least they were amusing, this is just irritating. I don't even know why you are bringing BW into the picture. we saw Roro's play, it was good, we complimented his play. You are the one that's being unncessarily harsh. The fact that you brought up BW fan vs SC2 fan meant you are being biased against BW players.
On September 18 2012 18:51 CTRLTiLT wrote:
no i refuse to listen to you say anything bad about Roro. kespa players #1
I don't know what to say lol
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On September 18 2012 18:55 Shellshock1122 wrote: Hack vs  rare Game 1 Map: Entombed Valley 0:00 Hack spawns in the top left rare spawns in the bottom right
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rax first for hack scouted by a drone scout
hatch first from rare
Maka rax built by Hack but it is scouted by the drone
the drone begins harassing the building scv but hack sends another scv out to defend it
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pool after hatch from rare
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hack begins sending marines and 2 scvs across the map
rare pulls a bunch of drones down to his natural and starts a spine at his natural
Hack pulls back and starts overlord hunting killing one
Hack floats his maka rax back to his natural and begins a CC
Hack also building a 3rd CC
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On September 18 2012 18:56 mrtomjones wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:53 Tsubbi wrote:On September 18 2012 18:50 Yello wrote:On September 18 2012 18:45 CTRLTiLT wrote:On September 18 2012 18:41 KiNGxXx wrote:On September 18 2012 18:37 CTRLTiLT wrote:On September 18 2012 18:35 KiNGxXx wrote:On September 18 2012 18:34 CTRLTiLT wrote:On September 18 2012 18:32 KiNGxXx wrote:On September 18 2012 18:31 morlakaix wrote:
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...what? Roro outplayed him the whole game.. If one player is playing bad you only need mediocre play to outclass him. what did Roro do that was "medicore"? Nothing special obviously. lol what do you even define as "special" ? Roro had ridiculous multitasking and executed a multi prong harass with perfection. Scouted the twilight council and spotted the high stalker count which led him to go mass roach. Some unnecessary hating going on here.. "Ridiculous multitasking"? He can build roaches and split them in two groups. OMG only Elephants can do this! Yes, he played way better than Ace. But it wasn't impressive. I'm not saying he can't play impressive but he couldn't show it in this game. Splitting roaches, microing BOTH sides WELL, cost efficiently engaging armies, slipping past Aces defense, burrowing roaches at mineral line constantly as harassment, taking a fourth and massing spines, teching up to Hive and infestors with upgrades all at the same time. but I guess all that shit is easy as fuck He didn't do all of that at the same time. He did play well but you are overstating. We saw a lot of this and better stuff before so this is actually nothing special. And Roro mostly looked so good because Ace didn't put up much of a fight. Ace didn't split his army well, didn't use force fields well, had units doing nothing during the fight. Ace playing bad made Roro looking good here because he could just crush in with his Roach force. ace looked bad because roro played well roro proved in wcs that he's already extremely good at zvp I'm out of here since the Kespa troll fan club is around again but I have to point you to Ace's recent PvZ's. He looked bad because he is bad. He has only ever had one or two flashes of brilliance followed by many losses. Is TL ever going to get back up to the maturity where the only things debated here were balance and Idra? Even that was better than this garbage -_-
Tsubbi isn't a kespa troll, he's just a zerg fan (like I'm a terran fan ^^)
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Wolf with the awesome accidental pun, Khaldor catches it =D
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Yay for overlord hunting, god I still remember the first time it really started getting popular (jjakji power), that was such a cool little time period where T would always be trying to work out what scout path Z would take next.
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Hack is playing so ridiculously greedy o_O
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On September 18 2012 18:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:55 Shellshock1122 wrote: Hack vs rare Game 1 Map: Entombed Valley 0:00 Hack spawns in the top left rare spawns in the bottom right 1:45 rax first for hack scouted by a drone scout hatch first from rare Maka rax built by Hack but it is scouted by the drone the drone begins harassing the building scv but hack sends another scv out to defend it 3:00 pool after hatch from rare 4:00 hack begins sending marines and 2 scvs across the map rare pulls a bunch of drones down to his natural and starts a spine at his natural Hack pulls back and starts overlord hunting killing one Hack floats his maka rax back to his natural and begins a CC Hack also building a 3rd CC
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rare makes a couple of lings and runs across the map and trades a few against marines since Hack doesn't have a complete wall off at his natural yet
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Hack taking a hidden 4th base at the top right
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On September 18 2012 18:57 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:54 CTRLTiLT wrote:On September 18 2012 18:51 FireSA wrote:On September 18 2012 18:50 ElephantBaby wrote:On September 18 2012 18:47 mrtomjones wrote:On September 18 2012 18:46 ElephantBaby wrote:
Those who says the series is terrible, obviously don't understand every detail and thoughts zerg players put into the game. They can only saw the obvious. Uhh.. it was fairly bad... Ace looked his usual PvZ self and the games were very one sided.... just because one person executes a plan the way they want it does not automatically make it a good series. Not many GSL zergs have those multi prong attack skills. Really? Are you really going there? I thought BW fans were going to be more mature. I already miss balance whiners, at least they were amusing, this is just irritating. I don't even know why you are bringing BW into the picture. we saw Roro's play, it was good, we complimented his play. You are the one that's being unncessarily harsh. The fact that you brought up BW fan vs SC2 fan meant you are being biased against BW players. Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:51 CTRLTiLT wrote:
no i refuse to listen to you say anything bad about Roro. kespa players #1
I don't know what to say lol
lol would be the correct thing to say here
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This is a strange game already.
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