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Varth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States426 Posts
September 17 2012 02:55 GMT
#7181
My main issue with stephano is that he talks big despite having never participated in the best tourney in the world, the GSL. He's pretty much up against at best Code A material atm, and thats being generous.
Maybe if he actually grew some balls and actually went to korea with the big boys, I'd respect the guy a lot more.
darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 02:57:50
September 17 2012 02:57 GMT
#7182
On September 17 2012 11:46 Incomplet wrote:
Ahh all the deluded fanboys make me smile. Arrogance always has been and always will be frowned upon. Being rich and famous does not give immunity to being an arrogant prick. The community does not need someone to fill in the role of the arrogant but talented foreigner, and never will.


Two questions:

1) Do you consider starcraft 2 tournaments to be competitive?
2) If so, why should it be treated differently from other sports in terms of dominant players trash talking?

If SC2 is the first thing you have ever watched competitively then I guess it explains your disdain for trash talking.
Eriatha
Profile Joined June 2012
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 03:01:53
September 17 2012 02:59 GMT
#7183
Wow. What a surprise. The world's best non Korean wins a tournament in which Koreans weren't eligible to participate. Who'd have thought?

And to you idiots arguing, take that shit to Reddit. I'd rather keep all the keyboard warriors in one place. That way, they're easier to avoid and ignore.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 03:00:17
September 17 2012 02:59 GMT
#7184
On September 17 2012 11:57 darkmetal505 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 11:46 Incomplet wrote:
Ahh all the deluded fanboys make me smile. Arrogance always has been and always will be frowned upon. Being rich and famous does not give immunity to being an arrogant prick. The community does not need someone to fill in the role of the arrogant but talented foreigner, and never will.


Two questions:

1) Do you consider starcraft 2 tournaments to be competitive?
2) If so, why should it be treated differently from other sports in terms of dominant players trash talking?

If SC2 is the first thing you have ever watched competitively then I guess it explains your disdain for trash talking.

I don't recall many sportsmen, no matter how cocky trashtalking, after they pick up their prizes. Boxers for example talk an insane amount of trash to hype up their fights, but don't tend to do so after.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
September 17 2012 03:03 GMT
#7185
it would be a huge disappointment if stephano never entered the gsl. he has to do it at some point, he just has to.
Eriatha
Profile Joined June 2012
11 Posts
September 17 2012 03:04 GMT
#7186
On September 17 2012 12:03 blizzind wrote:
it would be a huge disappointment if stephano never entered the gsl. he has to do it at some point, he just has to.


He doesn't have to. He makes more money staying away from Korea and if that's all he's interested in, why would he move?
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 17 2012 03:07 GMT
#7187
On September 17 2012 11:59 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 11:57 darkmetal505 wrote:
On September 17 2012 11:46 Incomplet wrote:
Ahh all the deluded fanboys make me smile. Arrogance always has been and always will be frowned upon. Being rich and famous does not give immunity to being an arrogant prick. The community does not need someone to fill in the role of the arrogant but talented foreigner, and never will.


Two questions:

1) Do you consider starcraft 2 tournaments to be competitive?
2) If so, why should it be treated differently from other sports in terms of dominant players trash talking?

If SC2 is the first thing you have ever watched competitively then I guess it explains your disdain for trash talking.

I don't recall many sportsmen, no matter how cocky trashtalking, after they pick up their prizes. Boxers for example talk an insane amount of trash to hype up their fights, but don't tend to do so after.


Mayweather?
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Avaran
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden43 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 03:12:58
September 17 2012 03:11 GMT
#7188
Gangnam Style DanceOff #1 at WCS Europe
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Fuck Medicine - I want to be a Ninja!
darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
September 17 2012 03:14 GMT
#7189
On September 17 2012 11:59 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 11:57 darkmetal505 wrote:
On September 17 2012 11:46 Incomplet wrote:
Ahh all the deluded fanboys make me smile. Arrogance always has been and always will be frowned upon. Being rich and famous does not give immunity to being an arrogant prick. The community does not need someone to fill in the role of the arrogant but talented foreigner, and never will.


Two questions:

1) Do you consider starcraft 2 tournaments to be competitive?
2) If so, why should it be treated differently from other sports in terms of dominant players trash talking?

If SC2 is the first thing you have ever watched competitively then I guess it explains your disdain for trash talking.

I don't recall many sportsmen, no matter how cocky trashtalking, after they pick up their prizes. Boxers for example talk an insane amount of trash to hype up their fights, but don't tend to do so after.


So the only thing you're mad about is that he said "money in the bank"? He barely dropped any games; it was relatively easy for him.

To your boxer comment: Mohammad Ali anyone?

+ Show Spoiler +


WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25474 Posts
September 17 2012 03:15 GMT
#7190
On September 17 2012 12:07 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 11:59 Wombat_NI wrote:
On September 17 2012 11:57 darkmetal505 wrote:
On September 17 2012 11:46 Incomplet wrote:
Ahh all the deluded fanboys make me smile. Arrogance always has been and always will be frowned upon. Being rich and famous does not give immunity to being an arrogant prick. The community does not need someone to fill in the role of the arrogant but talented foreigner, and never will.


Two questions:

1) Do you consider starcraft 2 tournaments to be competitive?
2) If so, why should it be treated differently from other sports in terms of dominant players trash talking?

If SC2 is the first thing you have ever watched competitively then I guess it explains your disdain for trash talking.

I don't recall many sportsmen, no matter how cocky trashtalking, after they pick up their prizes. Boxers for example talk an insane amount of trash to hype up their fights, but don't tend to do so after.


Mayweather?

Post-Cotto fighthttp://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7895491/floyd-mayweather-jr-shines-test-miguel-cotto
'"You're a helluva champion," Mayweather said to Cotto in the ring after the fight. "You're the toughest guy I ever fought"

Mayweather on Hatton

And this is Mayweather bear in mind, trashtalk extraordinaire
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Xenocryst
Profile Joined December 2010
United States521 Posts
September 17 2012 03:21 GMT
#7191
Im so confused as to why everyone likes grubby so much? I've never seen anything but mediocre play from him.
latan
Profile Joined July 2010
740 Posts
September 17 2012 03:22 GMT
#7192
I don't understand why would anyone care about post game drivel at all, especially about someone who is so obviously putting on an act and trying to be funny.
FireSA
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia555 Posts
September 17 2012 03:25 GMT
#7193
lol Grubby has an excellent personality, decent play, and is respected in the community, in part for his WC3 career (though someone correct me if I am wrong on this, but wasn't he bm at some point, long long ago, and it had caused some controversy?)

As for Stephano, I think that his arrogance is probably a little bit of an act as well. He is pretty much like an occasionally bm/non-korean version of MC, at least to me. But I dig it. As long as he performs, I like his character as part of the sc2 professional community. I don't think it is hurting e-sports xD
Harbinger631
Profile Joined September 2010
United States376 Posts
September 17 2012 03:28 GMT
#7194
Thanks to a wedding, I didn't get to watch a single game of what looks like was an incredible tourney. Where can I find a recommended games list, should one exist? If there isn't one, are there any sets that are must see? From the sound of the LR thread, Stephano had some awesome ZvZ micro/decision making.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25474 Posts
September 17 2012 03:44 GMT
#7195
On September 17 2012 12:28 Harbinger631 wrote:
Thanks to a wedding, I didn't get to watch a single game of what looks like was an incredible tourney. Where can I find a recommended games list, should one exist? If there isn't one, are there any sets that are must see? From the sound of the LR thread, Stephano had some awesome ZvZ micro/decision making.

Day 1 Stephano v Lucifron was the best series by popular consensus. Entire series is good

Day 2 Grubby against Nerchio, game 2 I think was also a sick game
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
September 17 2012 03:45 GMT
#7196
On September 17 2012 12:04 Eriatha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 12:03 blizzind wrote:
it would be a huge disappointment if stephano never entered the gsl. he has to do it at some point, he just has to.


He doesn't have to. He makes more money staying away from Korea and if that's all he's interested in, why would he move?


i understand he doesn't care about being one of the best and only cares about money but i just dislike wasted potential i guess
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 17 2012 03:46 GMT
#7197
Lol at people crying over Stephano's "arrogance".

Anyway, lucifron won in my heart. Third as Terran, heroic effort!
Torrathyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada95 Posts
September 17 2012 03:51 GMT
#7198
On September 17 2012 12:21 Xenocryst wrote:
Im so confused as to why everyone likes grubby so much? I've never seen anything but mediocre play from him.

Because he is one of the only players in all of eSports to not have a team.
Because he has been doing this since WC3 days.
Because he is a really cool guy.
Because he loves eSports more than we do.
Mediocre play? Watch him play against Nerchio.
Talent < Skill < Practice < Dedication
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 17 2012 04:08 GMT
#7199
On September 17 2012 11:49 keuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 11:26 jmbthirteen wrote:
On September 17 2012 11:24 muzzy wrote:
On September 17 2012 11:06 keuja wrote:
On September 17 2012 11:00 Xiphos wrote:
Hey can Stephano actually speaks French?

Just wondering because I want to converse with him in his mother tongue in case of future encounter.


Weird question.
He's French so yes of course, he can speak French...

No, he just has an extremely French accent when he speaks English. He cannot actually converse in French.


Stephano speaks French just like this:


What the hell are you guys talking about... He is a native French speaker. Just listen to any of his interviews in French wtf.

twas a joke my good man.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
blizzind
Profile Joined February 2010
United States642 Posts
September 17 2012 04:18 GMT
#7200
grubby can take down basically any foreigner except stephano and he's taken down many koreans as well in tournaments. he's also been competing in esports for about 10 years. that's just the tip of the iceberg as to why someone would like him.
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